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#1 Skywatcher

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:29 PM

To begin with the reasoning for this thread, I recently had some kind of event in my eyes, where masses of floaters all broke loose at once, with visual comets and flashes for several days afterward. Multiple tests and exams later, and the doctors still cannot tell me what happened, or how or if it can be repaired at all. It's been about a month and a half now, and the vision in my right eye is still blocked at center, with masses of floater tangle distorting and blurring.
My left eye was my weakest even before this, and now is trying to do double duty, but tires and gets blurry quickly.
 
I have been adjusting to the vision shifts, as the brain tries to compensate by ignoring the floaters as much as it can, and seems to be finding the clearer areas in both eyes, and overlapping them to see the best image. I am finding that all the other senses are kicking in stronger, to compensate for vision.
 
There is however another effect, that I have not really talked to anyone about, and for me one of the more concerning aspects of this event..... 
 
Some of you may have some feedback for me on this.
 
I have always been very sight oriented, and my "senses" feel somewhat crippled.
My ability to "see" entities, visitors, and shadow beings has always been the first indication, and main alert for me when they are around. I have never really been able to see them directly,  but am very oriented to the peripheral vision, and this is where I could spot them by their movement at the corners of the eye.
 
I can't do this anymore. The masses of floater crud blocks center vision on the right eye, and I now have a lot of floaters moving in my peripheral vision. They form their own shadows, and are moving all he time. This was kind of frightening at first, because I was used to this peripheral movement and visual as an alert.
I was, and still am startled when I see these shadows move in the periphery, because it looks like what I have been accustomed to see when there is something around.
Now after a bit over a  month, I have to just ignore that periphery vision because I can't trust it is anything but dark thread tangles and loose blobs in my eye, not something I am "seeing".
 
The mind is adaptable.
 
I find I am having to rely on  other senses much more now. The physical "tingle" when something is around, and with audio, there is an almost not heard whoosh of air, when beings are near and are moving around. I have not noticed this before until now. 
 
My internal sense to recognise how my thoughts "alter", when I am picking up vibes and/or emotions from people around me , and confuse that at first with my own thoughts before I recognise it as "Not mine", was pretty well developed before this.   
I think the perception of "others", non physical beings, has been shifting into this area of senses  a lot in the last few weeks.
 
It was easiest to rely on my vision as the first alert for all these years, and now I seem to need to develop the other senses to a higher level. I'm still figuring out what other sensory clues I have been ignoring.......
 
If you can relate in any way to this, or might share some of the sensations or senses other than the usual that you use, I would like to hear this, mainly to see if I recognise this in myself, and also because I find it interesting how diversely people sense the "worlds" around them.

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:39 PM

The class should know you and I have talked about this via PM

 

but to recap

 

Skye and I are the same age, too old to mention, to young to die, rust never sleeps  :)             so be awares kiddies this is coming to you all

 

my symptoms are nearly identical to Skye's but to a lesser degree. I've always been possessed of better than excellent eyesight. I could read freeway signs at three quarters of a mile as a kid and the eye docs treated me like a gold fleeced lab rat when I came in for exams.

 

SO, this aged eyesight thing is a monstrous anti-climax. Just as my photography skills are peaking I can't see through the viewfinder worth shit and spending much time on the computer editing images dulls my vision for hours.

 

BUT, as the old adage goes, the other senses adjust. Surprisingly, or not, my hearing is better. I'm enjoying music more and hunting is now more of a listening exercise than seeing.

 

I've had the cataract lens replacement surgeries. Yes, they corrected the issue of the cloudy lens but these replacement plastic lenses bring their own goofy ass side effects, or lifelong problems depending on how you choose to look at it.

 

They're plastic and reflect light the way plastic should and does in any other application. Which is a gigantic pain in the ass when a very strong light source at the periphery of your vision reflects off the edge of the lens. Even worse - if the light comes strong from the right it reflects off the left side of the left plastic lens which your brain percieves as physical motion coming from the left, or at least my brain does.

 

Now, on paper I'm a dangerous man. Usually armed and always in posession of about 20 years of judo, jiujitsu, and mma. This business of things suddenly jumping up on me but not really there is a real problem and usually has me hyper-vigilant most of the time. Not what I'd call a plus when doing the calculations about whether to have the cataract surgery or not. Of course the docs do not tell you this very important stuff when they're about to buy a new car on your surgeries. "here" he says "have a pamphlet"

 

The good news? Give me a few minutes to think about it.  Other than solving the cloudy eye thing and consequent headaches. which is a good thing, I can't think of any other good things. I've traded a worse form of visual impairment for a slightly better form of impairment and the people around me get to see me all jumpy when a nothing appears in my peripheral vision.

 

Now, in the big picture of life, I'm healthy, well fed, and have a good wife so I shouldn't be bitching about something that 2 generations back would have been part of crippling old age for somebody of my years.

 

Damn the higher expectations of high tech possibility, they disappoint all by themselves.

 

End Rant/

 

So Skye, we get to live with it and make the best, eh?


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 12:15 PM

In many stories/ lore the "Seer" is physically blind. The reason they are the "Seer" is they can see what we cannot with our eyes. Its very hard for us to give up the familiar. I've always had excellent eyesight until just recently. I had to pick up some readers. It sucks but there isn't much I can do. As far as my other senses. I have become a lot more sensitive to others emotions. If they are intense enough I can feel them thru walls. The problem with being sensitive to others emotions is not letting it change your own emotions. I am trying to project Happiness to others especially ones I know are in turmoil. I figure if I can feel it so can they at least to some extent. It's difficult keeping my depression at bay. But practicing positive projection helps my own mood. I don't know but I'm trying to listen to what my spirit is saying to me over my brain. Body spirit and mind. There is a definite difference but they all become so intertwined we tend to lean in one direction. Crazy thoughts. We can all just do the best we can with what we have. It's so crazy that I feel safe on these forums. Thank you all
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 01:34 PM

I had the best vision of anyone I knew, by far.   I could tell this because on the Columbia River fishing beaches, fishing for summer steelhead, I could always read the ship names twice as far away as anyone else on the beach.  I could read small print on a cereal box across the kitchen that would blow everyone's minds.   Like clockwork, at 45 I started losing close vision and started using reading glasses.   No big deal.   Then in my 60s, I got astigmatism, and the distant vision blurred.   I have not had good hearing since my teens, due to loud noise damages, mostly brought on by doing dumb stuff, from guns and fireworks, to the drag races and war games on the submarine.  My psychic senses are limited, so what I see is usually what I get.  What really changed everything for me, this 'me' thing, is my non-eye related seeing of it all.   I have to say it isn't even brain related.   It manifests physically as more about the heart, though not the pump, if you get my drift.   I would have to call it, "my being."   

 

I have gone through most of this life, as that 'me' thing, mostly unperturbed by demons and/or 'other' entities.  I guess it could be seen as blissful ignorance, but I just really never needed those things, and for some reason, they seemed to leave me alone, even after someone unknown to me put a big pentagram in the middle of my driveway right outside my cabin.   I don't know about such entities, however, I greatly suspect things like guardian angels must be lurking about.  :-)   I grew up with learning disorders that made the experience of being as a social creature, a torture.   The torture was wanting to fit in, but finding that completely out of the question.   I bumbled along in life, experiencing one close brush with death after another, too many to count now.   No NDEs in any of it, just my body escaping by the skin of its teeth, over and over again.  

 

Maybe the main fallout of this was to hold the question in sight paramount, "why am I here?"   Not mentally so much as experientially, looming, so to speak, over all of my being.   I have to say that it was a conscious choice to take a view from outside the body/mind, that of 'the witnessing,' which I had always been.   I saw my existence, not as the story of it, but as the always of it.    From such a perspective, I became released from the illusion that I was the body/mind.   And then, if not that, what?  Certainly, I am not a set of eyes, going bad.  I am not the poor misfit, cast adrift in society.   Released from my stories of a separate person battling the elements, braving the forces of perceived evil, striving for an image of the good, limited by the finite strength and resilience of the body and the sharpness of the mental state, what could be left to me?   Still, the seeing remains.  I must be that process, that... no words for it, yet I am.

 

Would ya look at me, I'm ramblin' again.

 

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 02:20 AM

I remember early in my psychedelic-use I began having terrifying dreams, often dreams in dreams, that led into the room where I actually was. I didn't respond well to it. I remember waking up in my room, turning over and seeing a young child sitting there looking at me. Many others, entities coming to me in dreams, telling me they're my worst nightmare and chasing me through the dream into waking life. Looking into darkness often provoked thoughts of what resided in it. I didn't sleep with the lights out for about a year. 

 

Though, I remember one night, I was staying at a Buddhist monastery on a meditation retreat. I had been meditating a lot. The meditation was full of intense pleasure and happiness. But, there was a night when I tried to sleep and my body sensations started dissolving as I laid in bed. Simultaneously, I heard the other man in the building walking back and forth erratically. The door was closed. For whatever reason, I started to think I was going crazy. In that same building I'd often imagine scary beings looking at me from up near the ceilings. I just couldn't take it that I couldn't go to sleep. And I started to feel that I was fucked up forever. I was then laying back on the bed on the floor and in a split second, I felt that the world had flipped... I felt that I was in front of the most evil thing that would torture me forever in pitch darkness. Haha. Well, I felt it back then. It immediately lead me into some form of surrender. I came to the decision to give up on my responsibilities. I have a brother who suffered from pretty terrible psychoses for many years and I wouldn't let myself go that way. It seemed like my life was fucked. It was an interesting night. So, I gave up in not such a nice way. I basically said, if it be torture so be it, if it be psychoses, so be it, but I need to sleep. So, I'm going to bed. 

Who knows? For me, I just started doing loving-kindness meditation for the demon things in my mind too! Haha. I recall an interesting woman who gave Thai massage telling me that she exorcized an evil being. I immediately told her that there are no evil beings. Which for whatever reason I believe. 

But, I've met shamans that think very differently. We are the source of our worlds. What do I know? 


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:59 AM

I suppose I should also say that I've experienced an increase in floaters at certain times. I'm still quite young so it isn't as serious as you indicated. But, I think the brain will work to sort it out. At least, when I experienced visual changes, like an increase in floaters and the HPPD fuzz, gradually it became less of a bother until now when I don't even notice the majority of the time. I wonder if there's actually an increase in floaters or if you just started noticing all that were already there? 


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:50 AM

What senses the senses? 

 

What perceives perception? 



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Posted 07 December 2018 - 06:58 PM

 I wonder if there's actually an increase in floaters or if you just started noticing all that were already there? 

I have had floaters before, a stray few every now and again, which as you say get ignored eventually. This was an overnight event. As I was falling asleep, there was an explosion of lights, comets at the edges, and an odd green and yellow checkerboard pattern with gaps and ragged edges. I remember this because I thought it was bizaar, and the thought that this was some kind of flashback crossed my mind. Being very groggy, I did not wake all the way up, and drifted right off to sleep. When I woke up the next morning, I kept trying to wipe "sleep crud"out of my eyes because I could not see through it. It took a while to realize there was nothing there, and this was all in the eye. It was bad enough that I called my doctors urgent line and had an appointment set up right away that day, because they suspected a retina tear.

 

Compared to that first day, it is better. My brain is ignoring most of the vision field in the right eye now because I still can't see through all the fiber and blobs at center. 

 

I appreciate all of you leaving feedback so far. 

 

I am "sensitive". I have always been aware of presences around me. Why they are attracted to seems almost irrelevant at this point, but I have believed it is because I see them.  Most are benevolent or indifferent. Once in a while a negative or light vacuum comes around, but I don't feed them and they move on.

 

I also as some of you expressed, pick up strong emotion around me. I have ways to block if needed, but things have been calm around here lately.

 

I have been noticing a very brief image flash in my mind the past few days, when there has been something around. Twice now.

A feminine face that is there for the briefest of moments, just long enough to acknowledge. The second time there was a gentle touch as well.

Maybe because I have been listening more intently to other senses in different ways....................



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Posted 07 December 2018 - 08:43 PM

Jeez, this is starting to sound like the storyline of the movie Phenomenon. Great flick, but not the ending I'd wish on you for another several decades  :)

 

Have you run this by an M.D.?  Sudden changes of any kind tend to get their attention.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:36 PM

That first night experience sounds like an ocular migraine.  I get them, and have for about five or six years now, and they have increased just lately.   I was totally freaking out about brain tumors or something.   I just started microdosing just because they are called migraines.    I never had migraines, but they are one symptom of Lyme's, so I thought I would try that.   They don't hurt, but they do partially blind me while they are happening. 


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:57 PM

Jeez, this is starting to sound like the storyline of the movie Phenomenon. Great flick, but not the ending I'd wish on you for another several decades  :)

 

Have you run this by an M.D.?  Sudden changes of any kind tend to get their attention.

That day...........

With a total of 4 follow ups and 3 seperate eye specialists. Five different eye exams. It was not a retinal tear. So far the longest response amounted to "We want to see you in 6 months". No explanations offered.

 

I don't know that movie. Probably best that way.



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Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:13 PM

That first night experience sounds like an ocular migraine.  I get them, and have for about five or six years now, and they have increased just lately.     They don't hurt, but they do partially blind me while they are happening. 

My sister mentioned that as well, and says she gets them sometimes. To my knowledge, that was the first time for me, if thats what it was. That still would not seem to explain adding masses of material to the eye interior.

 

I have pretty much accepted that this is the way things are now, hoping it improves with time, but still testing all my other sensory boundaries.






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