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#1 Hollydee2003

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:24 PM

Hey everyone! I am having an issue with stalled pinning in my tray. I’m using a monotub with 4 holes stuffed loosely with polyfill. Using rye berries and manure based substrate with a casing layer. B+ strand. I mixed the rye berries into a substrate bag, mixed then let colonize for a week or so. Then I introduced into fruiting conditions. A few days later I had a MASSIVE pin set. Literally hundreds! I was super stoked until I realized these little guys had stopped growing. I don’t really see them aborting at all. Still a nice brown color to the caps. It’s been a week since I first saw the pins and it doesn’t look like they are getting bigger. Humidity has stayed between 80-98% and temp is around 70-75. What gives? I thought maybe it could be bad substrate since the one I used was over a year old but I misted the sub to hydrate. Anyone been through this or have any advise? I injected a syringe of sterilized water into the tray this morning.

The first photo is when pinning first appeared. The others are photos that were taken yesterday. The last two photos were
taken just now.

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#2 coorsmikey

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 09:28 PM

I do believe that to be a genetic issue. Every time that happens to me it always happens from a single culture. How did you noc your spawn up? Another possibility with an awesome pinset like that stalling is not enough water available to support all those pins maturing at one time. I've heard of folks using the term Panic pinning in reference to the colony running out of nutrients as well but never experienced that myself. 

 

Perhaps take that same culture to a much larger container and substrate that can reservoir a lot of water? 


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#3 Hollydee2003

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 01:32 PM

Thanks for the response coorsmikey. I got the spore syringe from sporeworks. I inoculated into a rye berry bag. Once colonized I added the grain to a substrate bag, let it colonize and then put it in the tray and cased then introduced to fruiting conditions.

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 05:21 PM

If I were in your shoes, I would be inclined to pour some water around the edges of the dish. Enough water that the sub starts to float. Let it sit overnight then dump out any remaining water the next morning. I don't know why your beautiful sub is stalling for sure, but it would be a shame for it not to continue growing. The water may or may not be the fix. It won't hurt to try it at this point though.


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#5 Hollydee2003

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 07:53 AM

Okay I’ll try that for sure. Should I pick all of these tiny ones and clear the tray first?

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:45 PM

Ok so I wanted to update you all on this. I did end up removing all of the pins and broke up everything and mixed in a deeper tray, soaked it overnight and it did begin to pin and mature like normal. I know what happened now. The substrate was too dry/old being as it sat in my fridge for a year. Pins were competing for nutrients & water. After the soak everything looks great but I wasted at least 2 flushes by not getting this sorted out from the get go. So if someone else happens to have the same issue-there ya go!




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