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#1 SharkieJones

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 02:52 PM

Hey everyone, recently my state has decriminalized MJ , so im trying to set myself up for the first time since the Rubbermaid grow from 14 years s ago, lol. So my space is about 10x10 but I'm only using about 6-7 feet of space by about 3ft. I'm worried about light loss also my light set up just seems not right. I'm running 3, thousand watt equivalent LED Grow lights. I haven't started anything yet since I have no clue where seeds can be procured, but I'd like to be ready when I finally do solve that problem. Please some suggestions about set up would be welcome.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:20 PM

Umm first thing I would worry about is where the water is gonna go when you spill it.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:21 PM

Lol nm the pics upside down

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:05 PM

You can use mylar to help mitigate light loss or some type of build using flat white paint... I have seen successful grows which don't concern themselves all that much with a little bit of light being lost....

 

I would be more concerned with the growing medium I was going to use, How I was going to prepare my water, PH levels.... Maybe a plan for hasty pest irradiation which will no doubt be necessary at some point.

 

I think that soil selection/prep and being able to provide proper water (R/O machine) with proper PH is more of a concern than a little light loss...

 

PS... If this is your first time, have your final transplant be into bigger pots than you think you need!

 

It could be in my head or maybe not... I feel like the rate of mushroom contamination from trichoderma has been higher in spots where there has also been an MJ grow... Trichoderma is great in fantastic soils and I think that keeping projects separate and not tracking contaminates into your mushroom grow areas should be a concern.



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:25 PM

So I was planning to build a drainage system to carry away the water, as far as water source I have a place by me that purifies water and is PH balanced. This is my first so soil will be my grow medium, my thought was to buy a preformulated soil designed for this sort of thing. Not sure about the Mylar I've never used it before, is it cheap? Can it be procured at a Home Depot?
Insects now I haven't thought about, so I probably need to figured that out.
As far as soils go any suggestions? Also larger pots, bigger than 5 gallon?
Thanks for the responses and help in advance.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:34 PM

I use coconut coir straight up with ro get a TDS and pH meter check your local water see how high the TDS is anything over 200 I'd use RO. You don't have to though it just means you can't dial in your nutrients but if you do use RO make sure to add cal-mag and don't use to many nutrients it will kill you plants faster than anything. pH 5-7. Nutrient bottles will tell you how much you need cut it in half then go up from there. Dont under or over water if it's wilting and the pot is light to little if it's wilting and it's real heavy could be to much. Coco Coir is pH neutral and is hard to over water. A lifted tray with a drain will be nice so your waste water can just drain into a bucket then you can toss that. Start your seeds in a plug 1/4" down very, very light nuitrients it likes light but have it at a distance after it grows roots put into Dixie cup with holes cut in bottom. After you see roots out of the bottom move to 1 gallon pot until they are half the size you want then again to 3 to 7 12/12 8 weeks or so :p. Make sure they are completely dark for 12 hours.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:40 PM

So I was planning to build a drainage system to carry away the water, as far as water source I have a place by me that purifies water and is PH balanced. This is my first so soil will be my grow medium, my thought was to buy a preformulated soil designed for this sort of thing. Not sure about the Mylar I've never used it before, is it cheap? Can it be procured at a Home Depot?
Insects now I haven't thought about, so I probably need to figured that out.
As far as soils go any suggestions? Also larger pots, bigger than 5 gallon?
Thanks for the responses and help in advance.

 

 

As for the water, I would probably put a tarp down or set each pot on top on something that will catch the water if you are concerned.

 

Mylar is cheap, you can get it at the grow shop but I wouldn't be over concerned with a little light loss on your first grow.

 

I would just research pest management... You may not have an issue on your first grow but you are going to run into an issue at some point if you continue growing. You want to know how to deal with them when that time comes.

 

If you are intending on supplementing nutrients when you water, 5 gallons are probably big enough. If you aren't going to supplement nutrients, the soil may be exhausted prior to the plants finishing and I would use at least 7 gallon pots. 

 

There are so many potential soil mixtures... I like the results of the super soil mixtures but I dont foresee you going that route on your first attempt.... Maybe a Fox Farm Ocean Forest mixed 50-50 with their Happy Frog mixture...



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:43 PM

I use coconut coir straight up with ro get a TDS and pH meter check your local water see how high the TDS is anything over 200 I'd use RO. You don't have to though it just means you can't dial in your nutrients but if you do use RO make sure to add cal-mag and don't use to many nutrients it will kill you plants faster than anything. pH 5-7. Nutrient bottles will tell you how much you need cut it in half then go up from there. Dont under or over water if it's wilting and the pot is light to little if it's wilting and it's real heavy could be to much. Coco Coir is pH neutral and is hard to over water. A lifted tray with a drain will be nice so your waste water can just drain into a bucket then you can toss that. Start your seeds in a plug 1/4" down very, very light nuitrients it likes light but have it at a distance after it grows roots put into Dixie cup with holes cut in bottom. After you see roots out of the bottom move to 1 gallon pot until they are half the size you want then again to 3 to 7 12/12 8 weeks or so :p. Make sure they are completely dark for 12 hours.

 

I have friends who have gone the coir route with good success. This is good advice!!

 

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:44 PM

So I was planning to build a drainage system to carry away the water, as far as water source I have a place by me that purifies water and is PH balanced. This is my first so soil will be my grow medium, my thought was to buy a preformulated soil designed for this sort of thing. Not sure about the Mylar I've never used it before, is it cheap? Can it be procured at a Home Depot?
Insects now I haven't thought about, so I probably need to figured that out.
As far as soils go any suggestions? Also larger pots, bigger than 5 gallon?
Thanks for the responses and help in advance.

You got your water mylar don't worry about, Soil is great until you bring in critters and unwanted fungus. I would recommend Coco for sure even on first grow. The bricks are cheap. I would buy some clothes pots for your final transfer.
Drainage is key don't go to over board keep it easy. Good luck.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:10 PM

Thanks guys, can you post a pic of the coir set up? I've never used coir but am interested.
Lots of good info above, thanks again.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:19 PM

Also do you have experience with LED lights? How far above plants etc...

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:21 PM

Hydrate the brick then use just like soil roots love it. I just put a 5kilo brick in a large storage tub then add water I think it's 3 gallons of water break it up. Makes enough for 4- 5 gallon pots you can get the small bricks as well until you are ready for the big ones.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:28 PM

You can burn plants with LEDs keep them few feet away there is a sweet spot but make sure they are healthy enough to get the full force. Small plants keep it further get closer as they get bigger. You can kill them with to much light. More is not better sometimes.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 01:03 AM

Wow, great the see you posting a grow!

 

I will be growing Durban Poison and hopefully some White Widow too.

SoCal outdoor-ish grow.

I will probably start in April.


Edited by Dipole, 24 January 2019 - 01:06 AM.





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