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#1 Pan1

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:24 AM

Some back ground. Started tinchure at one dropper full. This was six droppers full also chewed leaves a couple times.. this was the strongest dose, last time was five
Droppers.. didnt burn in the mouth as bad as I remember, I did dose a friend on small amount once and he told me I didn't not prepare him for the burning sensation on holding it under the tongue for 15 minutes.

Spit out the tinchure at midnight 7 1/2 hours before now. It hits a bit before you spit it out. I find I have five minutes to wash down the awful tast out of my mouth that it leaves before it hits full blast..

Had music videos playing on the TV had very heavy cool kind of visuals that I've only had smoking salvia. Also still had anphrodisisc effect almost turned on a porn but I didnt.

After ten minutes of watching music videos I turned them off. I have about 30 feet of led strip black light in my room, black light posters t-shirts and printed blankets pinned to the wall so I'm set for a trip here.. put my head phones on and turned on Janis Joplin. I have highlighters in here started drawing patterns on my hand then arm and then took off my shirt and drew on the on side of my upper body.. I know have a note to put a mirror where the note is pinned beside my bed so I can draw on my face and a note for a turn table on my night stand because records would be cooler to look at playing. All that and dancing around took up the hour that I was peaking.

Here's one of the interesting things of orally injesting salvi after I stopped peaking I could swear I was fine took me 30 40 minutes to realize I was still fucked. but basically chilled on the bed and listened to music untill I tried to eat something at 2, probably really only turned to normality when I ate supper at 4.

Probably shouldn't dose more with out a trip sitter or two, probably should of had one this time. My go by myself camping out in the woods to do more bigger doses.

Started doing this because of the documentary on vice he lyed down and started inner journeying and the instructions with the tinture say I should start inner journerying, but was not.

Smoked a little cannabis to bring the effects back a bit to help put me in a state of mind to remember

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 09:54 AM

I've smoked it in the past and it's a pretty heavy duty short trip!

Heavy duty hallucinations and not for the weak spirited.

 

Nice report.

I always got the kaleidoscope effect when it first hit.



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Posted 22 January 2019 - 01:21 PM

Well a little update. I didn't come down all the way for about 12 hours probably not tell I slept. Still glowing off and on today. Dance party in the living room after breakfast. Manged to get my place cleaned up yesterday and the last of my stuff up on the wall in the living room just moved in here. And my shopping done today.. the only other thing I've been able to do is listen to music and dance, haven't watched any tv since which is weird for me.

Probably the stongest most beautiful trip I've ever had and it was so clean it was hard for me to tell I was high.

Not going to increase dose any more. No inner journeying for me this time, dmt extraction just made it pretty high on the shopping list.

Noticed when I came down that it burned my gums behind my top front teeth, I did cut it with water which is espouse to stop that, have some mouthwash tabs of tea tree oil green tea and sea salt been using that a few times a day seems to be helping.

Have three droppers left in bottle, one dropper full has a couple interesting uses crazy touch sensation being one. Payed my bills yesterday have enough cash for a bigger bottle.

I should say this I did 6 droppers full of a Max Of ten when cut with water

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 01:24 AM

Sounds like your trip was done with all set and setting in mind and turned out well, at least from the description. I really wish I could do the same if I had access to Salvia. Sounds better than smoking.



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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:44 PM

Well 15 days after doing that big dose I decided to do a little booster dose, that was a bout ten days ago. I did one dropper full, watched some porn and had an orgasim easier then when I was 15 I'm now in my mid thirties.

But shit kind of hit the fan the next day, did some kratom the next day, I've been extremely stressed since, might not be anything new been a rough six months.

Stopped doing kratom for a while, I've been lifting weights on and off the last few months to deal with stress I've been lifting as heavy as I can do 4 to 8 reps of last few days and I started doing pull ups, boots on full of food water I'm pushing bit over 200.. started doing yoga must of looked pretty rough yesterday, last one out of there and the instructor started telling me not to do anything that hurt which she thought was pretty much everything but is only putting my weight on my front knee.

Took a salt bath that had oils tonight that had oils for sore muscles, and making a peppermint rub tomorrow and catching a yoga class tomorrow.


Finally feeling much better, have two droppers left in the bottle going to save them for an occasion. Have the cash to get a big bottle decided to buy motorcycle boots instead, my supplier will still be there in a few months.

Going to have to respect this stuff a little more.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 11:37 AM

Just over three years ago, when I had the first (and only) really acute crisis with Lyme, losing 19 pounds from an already light 139 in eleven days, I declared an emergency and found a Chinese medicine/naturopath and started with him, I had a considerable concern with the loss of weight, especially the muscle mass.  The first thing he did, after asking me what was the color of my shit, was to do his crazy-assed needles and burning at acupuncture points and start me doing Qi Gong, all directed at getting the organs all doing their particular jobs.    The hardest part is the very restrictive diet he demands.  But everything was about getting the individual organs to function as they are supposed to.  He said that when the organs are all working right, the body just knows what to do and how to heal.

 

I wanted the muscle mass to come back.   I had no strength or energy at all that first winter.  The doc kept telling me, "there are no old body builders."   This guy is a martial arts guy, totally wiry.   After a little over three years, I am also becoming wiry.  I am doing a bit over an hour of Qi Gong in three sessions daily.   I am feeling really good in the body and am lifting and carrying things that are three fifths my weight.  I'm going to be 72 next week,  and am looking forward to playing more disc golf with the next break in the weather, and to see if my drive has gotten longer.  I have actually invented my own Qi Gong-like form for that and added it into my reps. 

 

As for stress, I am thankful for being here.  Gratitude is the greatest anti-stressor.   I fell down into a foot of water and snow yesterday, filling a rubber boot with same, bruising a rib and/or pulling a muscle there, so maybe my disc golf round won't happen.   I am yet grateful for whatever comes my way.   I wish I could bottle the "happy for no reason" stuff.  I don't know how I came to see that everything that comes is for me, not against me.   Worrisome shit is out there, but it doesn't worry me, because I know I am going to get the tests I need, even if I don't know why.  They don't make my present moment one of stress.    I was once the world's biggest worrier.   Maybe now I'm just a crazy old coot.   I just tell you this because it might help.


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 01:32 PM

Well I sure love ya ya crazy old coot. The world could use more of whatever you are selling brother. I wish I was not working all the time so I could pursue those things. The shift I am on makes it hard to do anything other than WORK and that has been a heavy burden even if I am grateful for it all. 

 

I would love to try this Salvia extract. Is it a commercial distributor? If this question is improper I apologize, not quite sure where the line is drawn anymore so I just tend to stay away from questions like that nornally but I am just curious. 


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 07:07 PM

Coopdog you have been pm, any body else that is interested feel free to pm. It's from a very reputable US supplier if I drop off the earth again.

Thanks alder googled it found a reputable Qi Gong class running a couple places around the city, doesn't say cost but does say show up and preticipate and sweats and tshirt are the uniform. New to this city so I really should check that out next week, looking for things to do as I know very few people.

Went to yoga today feeling good today, think I've recovered from touching the sun.
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Posted 14 February 2019 - 08:34 PM

...found a reputable Qi Gong class...

 

My doc would approve.  I forgot to mention, he is 68. 



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Posted 15 February 2019 - 02:58 AM

Thank you very much and bookmarked that site my friend. Good timing on this as I have a little pocket change for a change lol



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Posted 15 February 2019 - 01:29 PM

I must say this has me intrigued. I did not care much for the smoked Salvia, but my friend that I trust a lot said I would have enjoyed it much more if I had chewed it instead of smoking it, and this is, or seems to be similar to what he described. Your whole report sounds like an interesting experience. How are the gums doing? Was it a bad burn? I am on the verge of investing in a bottle myself. I will let you know if I do. 



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Posted 15 February 2019 - 06:54 PM

I'm not a big fan of smoking salvia had it work once back in the day, five ten min I was totally out of it. I still have a bag of shake salvia that is to small for chewing that I'm saving for other people, been told it will store at least a decade or more.

I've done the tincture from one dropper all the way up to six repeating some a couple of times. I used the brush out your mouth and cool mint mouthwash trick chewing leaves, I've found they both take twenty ish minutes to hit. I've found the high the same. I've found the leaves a pain to dose if you get them online usually pretty Shakey. There is reverse tolerance with salvia I've read the tinchire breaks that almost every time. I was told by someone with plants that the fresh leaves almost made him vomit and in the end it didn't hit him, I left some advice for him but never heard the results.

I believe that was the first time it burned my mouth. 5 droppers was almost a year ago can't remember. Cut with water or it will definitely burn your mouth. I lean forward so I don't have the swallow reflex for the 15 min. With six droppers cut with water it was touching my gums behind my front teeth and it burned there but no where else it was touching.

Didn't really notice that much the first day, next day started treating with tea tree mouth wash, had to be careful brushing there for a week. When I did one dropper a couple weeks later didn't burn any where. Fine now.

Very few drugs I touch have have the ability to shape my core beliefs cannabis did, mushrooms did, oral ingesting salvia I'm guessing will.

Edited by Pan1, 15 February 2019 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 03:44 PM

Thanks alder googled it found a reputable Qi Gong class running a couple places around the city, doesn't say cost but does say show up and preticipate and sweats and tshirt are the uniform. New to this city so I really should check that out next week, looking for things to do as I know very few people.

 

BTW, I just wanted to mention that something called, "Yi Gun Gin," a series of Qi Gong consisting of 12 forms is what my doc teaches as the core of his regime.   That link is a PDF of it I found online.  You might ask any instructor you check out about it.   It took me a while to get to the 49 reps, three times a day, but that's where I am at on it now.



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Posted 16 February 2019 - 09:25 PM

Can't use the link. I would worry about probably my phone that I'm using.

I have the classes bookmarked I should go check them out.

Says I have to learn to balance my gong first and then I have to learn gong for health living and then I can start the with qi gong exercises.

But feeling good today took a peppermint bath and hot oiled my hair and just chilling.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 04:59 PM

Well hell I just came from attempting to buy it, it says I have to pay with check or money order. I don't own any checks, and would have to go to the PO to get a money order and they are closed today. Sucks they don't do conventional pay methods. 



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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:50 PM

Unfortunately as far as I can tell has ever sold salvia or kratom at any time in the states has had there payment processers cut off.. I buy maca a long with other barley active herbs out of the states from a couple of places and I've gotten real good at sending money orders.

All as I'm going to say is buy it!!!
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