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#1 cg3p0

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Posted 03 March 2019 - 10:57 AM

Having issues with pan cambo sandose not growing tall.  First flush grew caps right on top casing, some caps only developed half the cap the rest appeared buried but never developed.  And the caps were very dark brown and wavy with fat stump stem.  Pretty sure humidity was too high as when it was decreased it the caps lightened up to more so thier normal color.  Huge pain to harvest like that.  Second flush underway, using much lower humidity and they are not as wavy this time and are a lighter color as well but still seem to be opening too soon while still extremely short.  Any suggestions.


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#2 SkeleDan

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Posted 03 March 2019 - 11:52 AM

Damn.  I can't lend any advice, just my support.  Hope you get it figured out!  I'm about to grow some pans as well, hoping for the best, but I've heard a lot of people run into difficulties with them.  



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Posted 03 March 2019 - 12:41 PM

Got some pics?

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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:30 PM

Sorry didnt get any pics of first flush, they were much bigger and darker in color  and extremely wavy like Psilocybe cyanescens caps and it was a much heavier flush.  Second flush here, much smaller and lighter about dime sized.

 

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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:35 PM

I've had entire colonies flush like that, not really sure why. I top light all of my colonies, cubes and exotics, to have them grow towards the light source. It almost always works.

 

Maybe peacefrog knows why. :biggrin:



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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:38 PM

Lights are on top here 12/12 6500k floro.  


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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:52 PM

Lights are on top here 12/12 6500k floro.  

 

 

Not sure if it's environmental. I had one colony do the goofy thing sitting right next to a colony with the same genetics(MS)/germination conditions/substrate/etc..



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Posted 04 March 2019 - 11:23 AM

I had some tubs that I had the top(GE) holes stuffed too tight with polyfil, and the bottoms looser(didn't know what I was doing at the time) and they(cubes, B+) grew short with fat stems, thick caps that had creases around it, sort of like a glass soda bottle cap(the ones you pry off with a tool haha), and some had the caps growing seemingly on the surface. I think because there was more fae near bottom than the top, because of the tightness of poly in the the top holes. Just sounded like the same situation, I could be wrong.


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Posted 05 March 2019 - 05:23 PM

I had the same thing happen several times and posted about it on here.  I was told that it was most likely just bad genetics.


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#10 peacefrog

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 06:14 PM

Yes it could be bad genetics, that is a possiblity.

How deep was your casing?
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Posted 10 March 2019 - 01:31 PM

Was wondering about genetics, but this is multi spore, thought some would have popped up.  After increasing the internal airflow/evaporation and decreasing humidity some are standing a little taller.  Getting first signs of the green monster so dug it out of the tray and noticed the inside of the substrate is looking pretty dry like water isnt soaking in all the way.  Not sure if that has anything to do with it.  The casing is pretty thin ~1/4" 50/50+, sub ~1.5" oats bulked to hpoo.  5th flush about to start now and will probably toss after that, such a pain to deal with.  Got tons of stumps with casing stuck to them after cutting off all thier heads. Probably end up making filtered extractions with all the stumps.


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#12 Billcoz

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 01:41 PM

Was wondering about genetics, but this is multi spore, thought some would have popped up.  After increasing the internal airflow/evaporation and decreasing humidity some are standing a little taller.  Getting first signs of the green monster so dug it out of the tray and noticed the inside of the substrate is looking pretty dry like water isnt soaking in all the way.  Not sure if that has anything to do with it.  The casing is pretty thin ~1/4" 50/50+, sub ~1.5" oats bulked to hpoo.  5th flush about to start now and will probably toss after that, such a pain to deal with.  Got tons of stumps with casing stuck to them after cutting off all thier heads. Probably end up making filtered extractions with all the stumps.

Well 5 flushes is pretty good without getting green sooner.






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