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#1 moochyesh

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 04:51 PM

The neck of these are shrinking? Just need some guidance. 429c9964d526320065c5f340181dad46.jpg

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 05:11 PM

The neck of these are shrinking? Just need some guidance.

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Do you have a wider shot so that we can see the whole colony? Looks like the colony could use more o2, but I'm not sure that the shrunken stipe is environmental.


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 07:21 PM

More moisture, more air. The fuzzies at the base are telling you they need more fresh air. Your caps are darkening due to a moisture issue.


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 07:37 PM

More moisture, more air. The fuzzies at the base are telling you they need more fresh air. Your caps are darkening due to a moisture issue.

 

I said that. :tongue:


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#5 sandman

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 10:48 PM

These look like waterlogged mushrooms from too much moisture and humidity to me.



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:03 AM

These look like waterlogged mushrooms from too much moisture and humidity to me.

I think when they get waterlogged, then you overcompensate the fae to help dry access moisture and they got those skinny necks like that and opened prematurely. It's a matter of dialing in fae/rh/ge, and like ondiadem said, the fuzzy myc at the bases is a sign of that.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:15 AM

The sub does not have enough moisture to fulfill the growth of the mushroom. That is why they start thinning out towards the cap and the cap not being able to develop to its full potential. It has nothing to do with the RH inside the tub. Just to clarify.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:32 AM

The sub does not have enough moisture to fulfill the growth of the mushroom. That is why they start thinning out towards the cap and the cap not being able to develop to its full potential. It has nothing to do with the RH inside the tub. Just to clarify.

Well thanks for steppin' on my theory!  :angry: No hehe, your probably correct, but I did notice something similar when I overcompensated trying to dry up some excess moisture. They had a line around the stipe where they were growing good near the bottom of the stipe and got skinnier towards the top, with kind of shriveled "collar", like you could see the point on the stipe where the environment changed, and they opened prematurely. It kind of looked llike the pic. :biggrin:


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:33 AM

Wait, what?



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 01:07 AM

I don't think that's simply environmental. Better pictures would help. I'm betting those continue to deteriorate even if you change conditions. More details, better pictures.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 01:08 AM

I don't think that's simply environmental. Better pictures would help. I'm betting those continue to deteriorate even if you change conditions. More details, better pictures.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 01:09 AM

I don't think that's simply environmental. Better pictures would help. I'm betting those continue to deteriorate even if you change conditions. More details, better pictures.

So you suspect it could be the genetics, just how they grow? 



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 01:16 AM

No somethings wrong, I think there's some competitor or disease going on.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 01:44 AM

No somethings wrong, I think there's some competitor or disease going on.

Oh, that's weird. Good eye.



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 07:04 AM

I bet 10 doll hairs that if you gently squeezed one of those stipes water would pour out.



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:30 AM

Looking at the sub, I don't think it is lacking water... There looks to be moisture on the side of the tub also... 

 

The darkening cap in the middle looks like an abort to me and the dark cap at the top looks like its different genetically. Some of the other darkish caps look like they have myc fuzz on them due to high humidity and inefficient FAE.

 

Some of the more mature caps also have what, to me, appears to be white myc fuzz...

 

I don't have an explanation for the odd stipeage but I think there is more than enough moisture in that substrate...

 

I don't know if water is going to gush out of the stems as sandmeista has suggested but I suspect that water content is just fine and it is awfully humid in there...

 

It is difficult to tell but is that polyfil or something stuffed in a hole? If it isn't something stuffed in a hole, it really looks like myc growing on the side of the tub... ???? Craziness! 



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:18 PM

Well I'm going to scrap it. This grow has been hard but I'm keeping these ones from it. Just wondering if the look of these should worry someone. Just looking for a few micro doses.f1228edeae56f69c78721189a1fc9d18.jpg4a59301e03ae3d2d87f4aa9d0df70a69.jpg0ef718e591d1929f421bf3a33ede0591.jpg

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#18 moochyesh

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:19 PM

This was the whole tub, i was a newbie and this is my first. The first forum i was on i was given conflicting advice so now that im here hoping grow 2 will be awesome.22f4119e0d7a27e65e0cf5f1cab0607e.jpg

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:07 PM

You can keep all the fruit. Nothing wrong in that sense.
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#20 jkdeth

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:11 PM

Really hard to diagnose looking at pictures. Does it smell off in any way? What was the substrate mix? You still might be able to get another flush off that.




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