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#1 TabbyBoy

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:49 PM

here is my monotub. i have PE and im waiting of my perilite to get here before i cut it open. Any tips?

Too much polyfill? not enough? bag too high. let me know.53462617_2382328855324417_8969768833799684096_n.jpg 53110588_1984328485026926_3773490053595004928_n.jpg 54114914_1787402978026107_1045841012070547456_n.jpg


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:33 PM

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here it is, I have the casing mix on it. I put the temp at 70, Is that good? should i make it any higher? should I mist now or wait until the first day is done? is there enough perilite in it?



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:18 PM

Looks good.

 

70 works fine and if the perlite is damp you should be fine on moisture to start.

 

Just do a light mist after you fan to kind of keep replenishing the moisture lost during fanning.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:25 PM

Looks good.

 

70 works fine and if the perlite is damp you should be fine on moisture to start.

 

Just do a light mist after you fan to kind of keep replenishing the moisture lost during fanning.

Should i mist once now? where do i mist when i do? how many times a day?



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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:27 PM

Mist the whole think LIGHTLY until you get pins.
After pins kind of mist towards the sides.

Once a day should be fine until the pins take off and then you can back off.


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 12:19 AM

I like what mr. roc said there. Also, I notice that fanning when the veils are not quite off, just before spores are gonna drop, the wind seems to trigger the spores to start dropping almost immediately, but without fanning they w0uld not have started dropping spores quite yet. I think it's a way for the fungus to spread it's spores around better. 



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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:15 PM

I pick before they open unless I'm taking some
prints.
Don't likes he spore mess

Just fan daily ( I try at least three times a day)
Mist to keep some humility present

Looking good
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 08:04 PM

Humility is important.
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 08:12 PM

I pick before they open unless I'm taking some
prints.
Don't likes he spore mess

Just fan daily ( I try at least three times a day)
Mist to keep some humility present

Looking good

Ill try to fan that many times, Should i mist every time i fan?



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Posted 13 March 2019 - 08:46 PM

TabbyBoy
As for misting, only do it if things are looking dry
I just finished my first flush using Wharfrat's
coffee cocoa substrate recipe.
Long story long..
I have various fruiting chambers all over my house a.t.m.
I'm using a double tub ( aquarium heater in outer clear Rubbermaid type containers
With another inside with a plexiglas top. There are small holes drilled for
ventilation) even with vent holes, it need fanning.
I've got some in my laundry room with a germination heat pad. They don't get as warm.
Lastly I have two chicken containers sitting on a book shelf with no heat other than
the ambient temp of the house.
They all need fanning but some are more humid than others. Each one
is a little different and are dealt with accordingly.
After my first flush, I added some more casing layer ( 1 gal glass jar w/ foil lid)
that I had re heated in my oven
225* for an hour. Let cool, apply
I made this a bit on the damp side to help with moisture.

It comes down to you judging the humidity or dryness of your
Substrate.. Trust your instincts.
Your second tray looks nice and healthy
You are doing great!
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:00 PM

After my first flush, I added some more casing layer ( 1 gal glass jar w/ foil lid)
that I had re heated in my oven
225* for an hour. Let cool, apply
 

heating up casing layer? is this required? mine was cold when i applied it.



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Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:05 PM

Oh, and don't worry if you can't fan them
that often ( three times or more)
I have days where you just can't be
that attentive. Don't sweat it.

I remember when I first started growing
I would get overwhelmed with all the different
info and opinions. In the end, you will have a nice trip
and as with anything, the more you do, the more you learn.
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:50 PM

Sorry to bogart your thread
I heat up my casing layer
just to be careful things are clean.
The other reason I reheated my casing
Is because I added some water to moisten
it up a bit.
If you keep your substrate covered/sealed
you should be fine. I have had casing
that had not been resterilzed and they did
fine.
Excited to see your next flush

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 10:16 PM

Excited to see your next flush

 

 

This will be my first flush, i hope there was no contams and it goes well


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 12:24 AM

Just for clarification, pasteurizing happens between 145-180f, killing off all other mesophillic spores/life that is present in substrate/casing material, while allowing the thermophillic spores to live. Sterilization only occurs at 250f at 15psi, or with some sort of radiation, ie UV, gamma, microwave etc..

 

I mean there's also ultra-pasteurized material too, but I'm pretty sure none of us have a dairy farm. :tongue:

 

https://en.wikipedia...ture_processing


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:33 AM

I cant help but feel like my casing is getting dry. I mist it and i mist it and feel one side lightly to test how moist it is and it always feels dry! im not gonna keep misting it i dont wanna over mist it. 


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:40 AM

How is your Fresh Air Exchange? I found it hard to keep up humidity because of a bit too much airflow and that also might dry out the casing layer - also a lot of fanning might do that. But also, there may be no problem at all. I know we humans cannot feel for wetness, we just have sensory input for warm, cold and can determine if something feels slippery or rough. We can make a judgement on that if something might be wet. But, don't feel with your hands how wet your casing layer is, I think is the best suggestion I have.

Edited by RutgerHauer, 14 March 2019 - 08:41 AM.


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:43 AM

How is your Fresh Air Exchange? I found it hard to keep up humidity because of a bit too much airflow and that also might dry out the casing layer - also a lot of fanning might do that. But also, there may be no problem at all. I know we humans cannot feel for wetness, we just have sensory input for warm, cold and can determine if something feels slippery or rough. We can make a judgement on that if something might be wet. But, don't feel with your hands how wet your casing layer is, I think is the best suggestion I have.

 Okay i wont do it with my hands again. i fanned twice yesterday and i planned on twice today should i only do once a day?



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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:48 AM

I'm not sure, I cannot say from experience, I'm quite new to this myself you know so experimenting with that still - it is not the same for my setup. I do it three or four times a day, but have little air exchange, and I don't always mist after that, usually two or maybe three times lightly.

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 09:35 AM

 

How is your Fresh Air Exchange? I found it hard to keep up humidity because of a bit too much airflow and that also might dry out the casing layer - also a lot of fanning might do that. But also, there may be no problem at all. I know we humans cannot feel for wetness, we just have sensory input for warm, cold and can determine if something feels slippery or rough. We can make a judgement on that if something might be wet. But, don't feel with your hands how wet your casing layer is, I think is the best suggestion I have.

 Okay i wont do it with my hands again. i fanned twice yesterday and i planned on twice today should i only do once a day?

 

I usually just take the lid off and use it to fan the tub. Hold the ends and move it back and forth 3-4 times and the air exchange is done.
When you use a very fine mist it also moves the air.

Once a day is fine but twice a day is good if you have the time.

Just make it quick and easy.


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