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Peganum Harmala Extraction.


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#1 Shadowlord

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 04:31 PM

Been wanting to do some harmala work for quite some time now.
I only have 250g of seeds at the moment but I see a lot of extractions done with this amount of material, so I'll see how I do.
Keep forgetting to order more seeds when picking up other supplies so here we go.

Will document the whole procedure and take pics.

Feel free to chime in with any advice or pointers as I gather together my materials.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 05:12 PM

So far, reading along in all the tens, it seems that filtration is the key.
Filter, filter and refilter lol.
Glad I cleaned the heck out of the workspace as this may tie things up for a little bit.

200g of Peganum Harmala seeds are being boiled.
Will strain and repeat at least 3X, but knowing me, will probably do 5.

Will post pics and have high hopes thanks to Phlux and the many other pioneers of home chemistry here.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:31 PM

More details please :)

Do you keep all the water from the boilings? Is it initially 'extraction' into water?
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:56 PM

Manske?
Going for freebase or salt?
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 06:06 PM

Always great to see you Norman!
I figure you should be a good resource for this type of work

I'm not as well versed with this procedure like I am with FMT or Mescaline.

https://wiki.dmt-nex...eparation_Guide

This is one of the various threads I'm reading on the subject .
Since they all all start with grind and boil seeds, that's what I have going thus far.

Have ground the seeds though I find I have only 187g of seed and I'm debating proceeding or waiting the short while it would take me to aquire more seed.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 06:14 PM

From what I understand from reading the material, I would be crashing out harmala HCl salts with the option of separating harmine and harmaline in the last steps.

Will be good practice as I eventually want to do similar work with Caapi and isolate the THH.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 07:24 PM

Grinding and filtering the seeds is such a pita! I usually do a 500g run at a time so that I don't have to do it again for awhile. But what I have found out is that you don't have to grind the seeds, I just throw them into an old shirt, or pillow case that you don't mind ruining and do 3-4 boils, every now and then mix the seeds up. This will help with the future filtering and won't clog up the coffee filters or cotton balls as fast with sludge.

I look forward to seeing the results of your run!
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 08:05 PM

Thanks Mushinist!

Been wanting to do this for a while now.
Thought I had more seeds tho. Luckily they're not hard to find.
Been wanting to work with harmalas for the trip benefits of course but also hoping that smoked harmalas may help my lady with depression.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 08:17 PM

Yep that tek is pretty much the standard. Super easy, like he said the only hard part is the filtering.
For smoking, you can re- precipitate clean freebase after you’ve salted.
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