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#1 33rdanda3rd

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 02:36 AM

So this is the second attempt and first with myc results going into the end of its 4th day. Its been incubating at approx 78-80 degrees on rye. Im just hoping to get some input or opinions as to how far along anyone thinks it could be percentage wise and if anyone could give me a general "rule of thumb" as to what colonization at 100% would look like. Also the growth is pretty consistant all around the jar.

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 08:46 AM

Looking good so far.

How is that lid rigged?
Hopefully it has a disc under the polyfil.



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Posted 06 April 2019 - 11:38 PM

Looking good so far.

How is that lid rigged?
Hopefully it has a disc under the polyfil.

What would happen if it didn't have a disk under the polyfil?



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Posted 07 April 2019 - 09:02 AM

I use the lids with poly-fil alone all the time. 

Everything in the pic looks ok to me. I typically use much less poly-fil but that's just a personal preference. 

 

Maybe roc saw something I missed. 


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 09:16 AM

 

Looking good so far.

How is that lid rigged?
Hopefully it has a disc under the polyfil.

What would happen if it didn't have a disk under the polyfil?

 

I've never used just polyfil across the whole mouth of the jar.
Do you just pull it over the whole mouth screw the ring on and then trim it to get it so neat around the bottom on the ring?
My fear would be the area right along the edge of the ring and shaking the shit out of them at 30%.
The jar definitely can breath.
I do my wbs on the dry side and this method would concern me on moisture loss. I find that I don't get clumping and get an easier shake and distribution at 30%.

Why do you like doing this Myc?

 

I still do two nail holes covered with foil and after shaking at 30% loosen  the foil a little so they can breath a little.
Old dog and old ways but I still learn something everyday.

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Posted 07 April 2019 - 09:42 AM

I use the lids with poly-fil alone all the time. 
Everything in the pic looks ok to me. I typically use much less poly-fil but that's just a personal preference. 
 
Maybe roc saw something I missed.


I do this myself, a 1/4" hole stuffed with polyfill, to this day I still haven't lost a jar. Its simple and reusable, and if it needs it stuff a new wad of polyfill in the hole.

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Posted 07 April 2019 - 10:39 AM

 

 

Looking good so far.

How is that lid rigged?
Hopefully it has a disc under the polyfil.

What would happen if it didn't have a disk under the polyfil?

 

I've never used just polyfil across the whole mouth of the jar.
Do you just pull it over the whole mouth screw the ring on and then trim it to get it so neat around the bottom on the ring?
My fear would be the area right along the edge of the ring and shaking the shit out of them at 30%.
The jar definitely can breath.
I do my wbs on the dry side and this method would concern me on moisture loss. I find that I don't get clumping and get an easier shake and distribution at 30%.

Why do you like doing this Myc?

 

I still do two nail holes covered with foil and after shaking at 30% loosen  the foil a little so they can breath a little.
Old dog and old ways but I still learn something everyday.

Don't forget I'm a type A personality and analytical should be my middle name. 

 

 

Hey roc,

I'm having a chuckle because it looks like you may have missed that the huge wad of poly-fil is just sitting on top of the lid - which has a 1/4" hole in it. If you look carefully, there is a tuft of poly-fill pulled through the hole and is inside the jar. 

 

The deceiving part is the excess poly-fil which is sitting on top of the jar. (excess material) 

 

Said another way,

I do not think that the poly-fil was used in the same way that a filter disc would have been used. Instead, it is used in the traditional manner to plug the hole in the canning lid. The excess material on top of the jar gives the illusion of having been used to cover the whole mouth of the jar. 


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 11:42 AM

 

 

 

Looking good so far.

How is that lid rigged?
Hopefully it has a disc under the polyfil.

What would happen if it didn't have a disk under the polyfil?

 

I've never used just polyfil across the whole mouth of the jar.
Do you just pull it over the whole mouth screw the ring on and then trim it to get it so neat around the bottom on the ring?
My fear would be the area right along the edge of the ring and shaking the shit out of them at 30%.
The jar definitely can breath.
I do my wbs on the dry side and this method would concern me on moisture loss. I find that I don't get clumping and get an easier shake and distribution at 30%.

Why do you like doing this Myc?

 

I still do two nail holes covered with foil and after shaking at 30% loosen  the foil a little so they can breath a little.
Old dog and old ways but I still learn something everyday.

Don't forget I'm a type A personality and analytical should be my middle name. 

 

 

Hey roc,

I'm having a chuckle because it looks like you may have missed that the huge wad of poly-fil is just sitting on top of the lid - which has a 1/4" hole in it. If you look carefully, there is a tuft of poly-fill pulled through the hole and is inside the jar. 

 

The deceiving part is the excess poly-fil which is sitting on top of the jar. (excess material) 

 

Said another way,

I do not think that the poly-fil was used in the same way that a filter disc would have been used. Instead, it is used in the traditional manner to plug the hole in the canning lid. The excess material on top of the jar gives the illusion of having been used to cover the whole mouth of the jar. 

 

Damn I need to stop posted while stoned!
My eye didn't catch that and I thought WTF!

Carry on and that jar looks beautiful!

Sorry for the misunderstanding!

The laugh is on me!


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 12:18 PM

To your credit, I had to open and study that photo several times trying to decide what I was looking at. 

 

I'm off to smoke one and catch-up with you. ;)

 

It might also help if the OP were to weigh-in on the subject. 33rdanda3rd ?? 


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Posted 07 April 2019 - 02:09 PM

To your credit, I had to open and study that photo several times trying to decide what I was looking at. 

 

I'm off to smoke one and catch-up with you. ;)

 

It might also help if the OP were to weigh-in on the subject. 33rdanda3rd ?? 

Smoke it if you got it!

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