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[rockyfungus]

Has anybody had success using something like grain water to water the dirt where you plant subs?

I have, but they don't have that luxury in nature. Just provide some manure/compost, shade, water, maybe throw some leaves on top and call it a day.

I only get like a flush in my climate and it's rare as we usually have nights in the 40's and days over 80's.

Edited by rockyfungus, 16 April 2021 - 05:17 PM.

[ReverendOMyc]

I am hoping to get in on out door grows. I have a weird climate, though. In an arid desert zone, but with access to land that is close to the coast where the temperatures are milder and with a long wet monsoon season and sandy soil. I am hoping that I can get Tampanensis to go here. Since they are stone producers, maybe there is a chance.

[MushLuvR]

I don't know if this is considered an Outdoor grow, but I accidently made a H P.E. sub too thick(Coco/Verm/Gypsum) and not enough Air to compensate and being a slow colonizer it trich'd out on me(Completely my fault at almost 6" unintentionally and not enough Air).  I opened it up outside to verify, it wasn't green yet, but it was close and I see the different looking droplets and the sub that isn't colonized.  Anyway, I put the one quart of sub in my Ivy up against the fence and covered it like a casing layer with really good recycled soil.  This was around the Middle of March and i am in zone 9.  3-4 weeks later I have all these mushrooms popping up wider than the sub so it definitely colonized further and spit out almost 3 Oz's.  Out of all the projects I've done this year, I thought this one was the coolest taking a contaminated sub and turning it into an Outdoor project that has produced some beautiful outdoor fruits.  I planted the second one that is manure based right next to it, that tub already gave up 3 flushes so who knows...  

 

 

5 Trays worth dense stems, this P.E

has the crinkle thick stems and Mutated caps usually and

don't sporulate much.  

 

What's left and harvested 2 days later

 

 

 

[MushLuvR]

Went out to check the area... Round Two....

 

 

 

[bezevo]

very  COOL  !  MushLuvR   ...........GOOD Luck in futchure ............

 

good luck ReverendOMyc

[MushLuvR]

These fruits get so Blue Outside.  I only patched areas that needed it after the first flush harvest .  

 

Edited by MushLuvR, 02 May 2021 - 09:54 AM.

[dantisocial]

I have been trying to establish outdoor beds of Azures and Cyans for a couple years and finally have a few pins developing in a bed of what IIRC are ps. cyans. It has been almost 2 weeks since I first saw pins and they still haven't gotten to the point where the caps have opened. What kind of timeframe is typical for these to develop? I don't want to leave them until they go bad, but also don't want to pick them way too early in my excitement. 

[bezevo]

dantisocial....congrat

pins in your Azures and Cyans in your out door beds ,, veery cool

 

keep us informed

thanks

Bez

[dantisocial]

Frost has held off (barely), and they are still going. So slow, though. The second pic is over 2 weeks from pinning.

 

 

[Severian]

So here's a ?

How to encourage an outdoor bed to fully colonize the available sub before fruiting?

I started a bed a few weeks ago, with some slightly. Contaminated subs, covered them in compost/manure, and watering as neede- been seeing mycellium begin colonizing the surface in one area for a few days, but then vfirst pin today...


Should I have covered the zone with a trashbag to encourage higher CO2?

[Arathu]

 

How to encourage an outdoor bed to fully colonize the available sub before fruiting?

 

Don't let it reach the air until it has......else it's likely to fruit.......bury in well drained holes and experiment with casing(s).....

 

Come to mind.....lookup "sunset myco hills" for examples of some "retirement" plots from the days of cubes.....

 

If they have a good food source that they like, and proper hydration, running it quickly is likely....depending on species of course

 

https://mycotopia.ne...et myco hills

 

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[Severian]

Great info arathu

Here's a photo of the outdoor bed that's developing

It put out one nice size fruit (26g wet), 2 days ago- which gave me a super strong experience yesterday- and now seems to be focused on colonizing the available area- been seeing nice mycelial growth reaching through the surface more each day.

I'm going to cover the area with a bag for the next few days to see how that affects things- though I'm a bit hesitant to change what's working.

Goal I think is to take some of this sub once more colonized to use as a seed for another bed.

Looks like maybe I've figured out how to upload photos to the site! That or phone is choosing to cooperate!

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[Arathu]

Nice mushroom......I generally don't change the conditions of a fruiting fungus much beyond keeping it moist by misting.....

 

Steady as she goes if you have the weather conditions to continue, by all means.....IMHO

 

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[Severian]

Seems like colonization accelerated after covering it with a plastic bag

[Severian]

No seems about it actually- much accelerated

[Arathu]

No seems about it actually- much accelerated

Then what? Do tell....

 

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[Severian]

Well noticablely quicker mycelial growth popping through the top layer of soil- also 'healthier' looking- by this I mean vibrant white rhizomorphs reaching for the sky

The addition of the added moisture they clearly like (the CO2 2 of course)

I hacked into the bed the other day, excavated half of it for my 'outdoor seed-pots' experiment- will post more in a dedicated thread next internet-cafe day my computer actually decided to allow me access to the internet.-

But, in nutshell, plan is to get an outdoor cubensis culture that is 'seedable' - eliminating all need for the first-indoor sterile aspect of growing.

Plant 'seed' in bed
Watch bed colonize
Extract new seed pot
Repeat

Will post photos once results are showing