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[el_ronhub_bird]

Yeah unfortunately I can't mess with any harmala alkaloids at the moment because of other medication I'm on

[Mushinist]

I understand, enhanced leaf is just as easy but without the harmala alks. Just some other options to try out.

[el_ronhub_bird]

Hey Norman if you read this I've got a question for you (or anyone else who wants to chime in.) In the tek you posted a link to, they use a 1 gallon wine jug. Could I instead use 2 half gallon Ball jars?

[Mushinist]

Yes

[el_ronhub_bird]

Thanks a lot Mushinist. You've been very helpful throughout this process!

[Mushinist]

You're very welcome friend, helping is what it's about, and by the looks of your pulls you're getting the extraction process down quickly!

[el_ronhub_bird]

Alright here's my last 650g that I'm gonna do all in one batch via the first link Norman left on the page before this one. I can grind this stuff up with a blender pretty good but I can't completely powder it. I can get it over halfway powdered by weight and the remainder is a more fibrous material and I seperate the 2 kinds with this screen scooper thingy, even though I just mix them back together again. It's more just so I can tell that I got it to the consistency I want. Oh one last thing, I'm freeze precipitating the 4th pull from 250g and will post pictures shortly

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[el_ronhub_bird]

4th pull from 250g. Yield is beginning to diminish in this batch as well. I'll let it sit for a few weeks and do one more pull on it. I'm looking forward to trying out a new method on the next batch

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[twoguysupnorth]

As far as acacia and mhrb both work well but mhrb is hard to get my hands on and is also watched closer. Acacia often ends up not crystallizing as well and makes an oil. I've cleaned it to the point of xtals but then I lose a lot of active substance that way. The oil is very easily absorbed into the enhanced leaf or changa so it is just more efficient for me that way. You are doing great with your extractions especially if these are your first attempts.

I measure the amount of oil or xtals just to know how much is in a given amount of leaf/changa. When I load the bowl I only really estimate the amount I use and any extra that is in there doesnt hurt anything and it may make the first hit or two let me blast off rather than 3 or whatever. Any leftover remains in the bowl so I can pick it up later and re hit it or load more if it's just a small amount. So really I don't see it as a waste to overload the bowl a little.

[twoguysupnorth]

I guess I generally load about 100mg equivalent of dmt plus the herbs and often I can get two uses from one bowl. So I guess that means about 50mg is what my dosage is.

[el_ronhub_bird]

Hey twoguys thanks for the compliment but if I'm doing great it's because of the topia. I see people doing what I consider to be great things and then I just try to mimic those people. There's so much great information here and you'll NEVER find a friendlier place on the internet. I've had so much fun with this project that I just don't want it to stop. So I think I'm gonna get some more bark while the getting is good. Nothing too crazy, just another K or 3. Haha!

[el_ronhub_bird]

So here is 500g, about 400g of fine dust and 100g more of the fibrous material. I'm using 500 because it's an easy number to work from calculation wise. I will be using the Marsofold tek linked to on the previous page for this batch. I have about 120g left of the fibrous material that I think I will use to try a STB with

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[twoguysupnorth]

Stock up for sure if it is at all possible. This is a great place, a jewel in the midst.

[el_ronhub_bird]

Ok so I got the 500g mixed with 2 quarts of water-vinegar solution brewing in the crockpot right now. I've still got 2 quarts of the solution left for 2 more "pulls" if that's the right term. After I strain the water-vinegar from all 3 pulls I plan to let it sit overnight to allow the vegetable matter to sink to the bottom of the jars. Does this sound like proper procedure to everyone? I would appreciate any tips/advice/corrections to my procedure so far

[twoguysupnorth]

You could and it would just make it easier to separate. I've seen teks where they actually leave the ground bark in during the extraction thinking that they will get more product from it. Makes sense kinda but so many people don't do that and get good pulls. Pulls are what I see them termed as one dmt nexus ect.

I've used the improved max ion tek a few times with good results. He is basically adding several grams of non iodized salt at the basification stage with the idea that the salt will help push the actives over into the NP solvent.

[twoguysupnorth]

A piece of equipment that I found helps alot and basically easier to separate off the NP solvent in the end. It is a large pipette 25 or 30 ml I think. Also the suction ball for the end was one meant for chemical use. The bulb has a port for the pipette as well as two other smaller ports that have small ballbearings in them. When you depress the bulb you have to pinch where one of the bearings are to get it to start suction. They are placed one on top and one on the side making it easy to use one or the other depending on how you hold the bulb. While you have your solution sucked into the pipette it doesnt release the liquid until you squeeze at one of the bearings allowing the suction to release the liquid. It's been very helpful and around 25$ or so at the time I bought mine. Azon had them. I have a seperatory funnel too but the stop valve isn't as accurate as I'd like. I want to get one of the plastic ones instead of the glass for more easier control of the lever.

[twoguysupnorth]

Another personal choice, nothing wrong with you using vinegar but I like to use ascorbic acid as it's quite strong and also doesnt evaporate during boiling. Just a personal choice that I happen to like better.

[el_ronhub_bird]

Obsession or dedication? You tell me...

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Edited by el_ronhub_bird, 13 May 2019 - 03:10 PM.

[el_ronhub_bird]

This is the state of things so far; I've got 2 jars of vinegar water that have resulted from 3 seperate pulls from the bark. I'm allowing them to sit so particles fall to the bottom of the jar. Ayahuasca cookies anyone?

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[el_ronhub_bird]

So now I've got a half gallon of water vinegar and about 2 cups of gelatinous sludge that settled to the bottom of the jars. I'm gonna divide the half gallon of solution in half so I'll have 2 half gallon jars each half full of the solution. Next I'll prepare the lye solution. PS I think I'll do a seperate extraction on the sludge material since there's so much of it

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Edited by el_ronhub_bird, 13 May 2019 - 06:36 PM.