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#1 Cuboid

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 12:58 PM

Spotted this this afternoon before mowing the front lawn, figured I'd get a closer look before the mower eats it and it's friend. There were just the two of them about 5" apart. In the picture of split stipe laid on paper there is an attempt at a spore print in between the two pieces of the stipe. A close look IRL appears to be a white spore print. I've repeated the spore print on foil to see a bit better and it's definitely white (no dark coloured paper handy just now, photo of print on foil not working out well enough to post). In that same shot the black staining is very obvious, it is a couple of hours after cutting it in half. The flesh of the cap has done the same blackening but the gills have not (although I suppose I haven't really damaged the gills anyway).

 

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My best guess is Conical Wax Cap Hygrocybe conica


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#2 Alan Rockefeller

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Posted 22 June 2019 - 04:27 PM

Congratulations, you discovered a new species of Hygrcybe.

 

Unless you found it in Europe, in which case Hygrocybe conica is a possibility.

 

What are you going to name it?


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Posted 22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM

Congratulations, you discovered a new species of Hygrcybe.

Unless you found it in Europe, in which case Hygrocybe conica is a possibility.

What are you going to name it?


Yeah, I should probably have said this was in the East of England, UK. It would have been so cool to get name a fungi though :(
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Posted 24 June 2019 - 11:15 PM

 

Congratulations, you discovered a new species of Hygrcybe.

Unless you found it in Europe, in which case Hygrocybe conica is a possibility.

What are you going to name it?


Yeah, I should probably have said this was in the East of England, UK. It would have been so cool to get name a fungi though :(

 

 

 

It's still likely a new species, but this makes it more difficult.   You need to sequence the DNA, and then figure out what the real H. conica is, and get a sequence from that too, and then compare them.   It is possible but kinda unlikely that someone has already figured out what the real H. conica is.   You'll probably need to designate an epitype from one of your collections which matches the original species description and was collected in the same area.

 

What you can do now is get your collection sequenced by sending it to http://alvalab.es and asking for an ITS sequence, and also start photographing and collecting Hygrocybe, especially the black stainers.


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#5 ethnobotanist420

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:01 PM

Very interesting thread here... @Cuboid are you planning on following up on this?

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 01:00 AM

Very interesting thread here... @Cuboid are you planning on following up on this?


Yes. I only have the one specimen at the moment. I'm trying make sure it dries properly for storage. I think it may be spoilt already though. It's been rather humid lately. Had fan blowing over it last night. Will pack with desiccant today.
Unfortunately the link @Alan Rockefeller gave me for a sequencing lab seems to be down so I'm looking for an alternative.

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 02:44 AM

It's not down!



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Posted 09 July 2019 - 04:40 AM

It's not down!


It would have been more accurate for me to say I was having some trouble accessing it and it -appeared- to be down at the time.

Happy to report it us loading OK for me just now :)

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 09:46 AM

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Send me the DNA sequence when you get it and I'll help you interpret it.


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