Totally! But I'm still confused about how the oxygen absorbor(s) help dry the fruits? The goal is pull out the water content. Forgive my ignorance.
Oxygen absorbers don't dry the fruits. I use them to keep oxygen away from already dried fruits. I only use damp-rid when I am storing batches of already dehydrated fruit bodies between flushes until I get enough to vacuum seal in one bag. I don't really grow that much fruit bodies, mainly I just colonize active grain and dry that.
your comment about just colonizing grain and saving, presumably, the myc, is what i first became intrigued by when starting this hobby (and I suspect will become a major study with all these wall street types trying to start psilo corps prior to legalization). the idea of capturing actives from myc without fruiting is great. but back when i was first lurking here (~15 years ago), everyone said no way...no psilo in that myc. but now, years later, i see folk discussing a particular non-cubie species that does contain psilo in the myc--notably when using grains (don't recall the species name).
Forgive me because I have seen, but not read the most recent threads on the topic, but I don't see how one could easily separate the myc from the grain. My old original hypothesis (inspired by what were probably some "aspirational" teks--probably an old textfiles.com document [probably a source noone here under 30 has heard of. lol]) was to grow the myc in liquid cultures and then dry the myc, grind, and store for use, i.e. bc it's easy to remove a myc cluster/colony from the liquid.
The species is Semperviva or the full name is Psilocybe Hoogshagenii var. Convexa (P. Pemperviva). As you know, discoveries happen all the time and there are a lot of people testing different species of mycelium for actives, but to my limited knowledge, there are not many unless you count stone producers, but I am not sure if those "technically" qualify since they grow a fruit body in the substrate, just not a normal one.
The mycelium is not separated from the grain, the grain is dried along with the mycelium since the grain is impregnated with the actives as well.
I am not sure how active a colony would be that was grown in liquid. I am unsure if the correct nutrients and compounds could be added in liquid form in order for the mycelium to metabolize correctly. But that is just my thinking. I did try Semperviva on agar before with a very mild result. I assume the only reason I felt anything at all is that I add a lot of nutrients to my agar mix. It was hardly worth the effort though. I just tried it for "shits and giggles." It was a tea made with three four month old plates. It was a goopy mess.
Here is the link to the Myceliated grain TEK.
Below is what myceliated whole oats that were allowed to colonize with Semperviva for four months (and then dried) look like.
Eight tablespoons of this grain extracted into tea is very potent for most people. The most I have done so far is 10 tablespoons, but I have an unusually high tolerance so I have to take a lot more than most people. All I can say is that every batch is different, and my experience indicates that a dosage by using tablespoons is unreliable. I took 8 TBS of one batch and had a strong experience, but nothing ground breaking. I tried 10 TBS of a of the same batch a couple weeks later assuming it was the same strength as the first but it was much much stronger. The actives must not be evenly distributed throughout the grain. Or it could have just been how my brain decided to react that day? Who knows? Things got a little sketchy for the first hour or so! I have more respect for it now.
Edited by Jinroh, 24 October 2020 - 11:59 PM.
