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#1 TVCasualty

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 02:44 PM

I'm paraphrasing the title of a disturbing article about Amazon: https://www.axios.co...506249a7b0.html

 

With the deals, Amazon has taken a pioneering lead in what has come to be called "surveillance capitalism," which includes some of the biggest businesses of the future, like 5G, autonomous vehicles and smart cities. Now, the behemoth, with its edge in this new economy, is positioned to explode its revenue.

 

"Amazon has entered the surveillance capitalism domain with a very big bang," says Shoshana Zuboff, author of "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism." "Once you have this as your lens, and you look at Amazon, you will never look back."

  • The company has "already got all of this behavioral data flowing every which way," she says. "Now they're thinking, 'We can be a Google or a Facebook on top of what we’ve already got. Not only do we know what they know, but we know stuff that they don’t know. We don’t have to infer that you’re interested in a white T-shirt with a big rose on the chest. We actually know because you bought one.'"
  • Other tech giants aren't "even in the same universe as Amazon," says Amy Webb, founder of the Future Today Institute. "We're talking about an entirely new ecosystem that is literally being born in front of our eyes."

What's happening: Amazon's newest offering, a deal announced last week with Realogy, connects homebuyers to real estate agents and gives them $5,000 in smart devices and services when they close the deal. The huge upside for Amazon is unchecked access to the data-rich interiors of our homes.

  • On paper, Amazon is giving out cool stuff for free. But the company is also getting "extremely inexpensive access to record some of the most intimate parts of your life," says Meredith Whittaker, co-founder of the AI Now Institute.
  • "There are hundreds of millions of marketing dollars that go into presenting these as sleek, convenience devices, but smart home is a misnomer. We’re really talking about a surveillance home" that feeds tech firms data that is far more personal and valuable than what is garnered from an Instagram like or an online purchase.

 

 

But wait! There's more!

 

 

  • It partnered with Lennar, the country's largest homebuilder to put up houses that have internet "built into the walls and floors," making them the perfect shells for smart devices from Alexa to Ring, reports CNBC. And these homes aren't just for the rich. There are affordable versions being propped up in blue-collar neighborhoods. too, Webb says.
  • Amazon has also invested in Plant Prefab, a startup which constructs smart houses.

The result, per Webb, is "Amazon in literally every nook and cranny of our home because either it built us the home, or it has got devices in the home, or it helped sell us the home."

  • This plays into Amazon's hands because consumers are increasingly likely to buy into one stack of devices instead of a patchwork, says Wright. "There's less friction, and the further you get into the Amazon ecosystem, the less likely you are to switch over to Google or Samsung or another competitor."

 

 

Awesome! Now you won't have to opt-in since this crap is going to be pre-installed in new houses!

 

But keep waiting, because there's even more...

 

  • For example, emails obtained by Vice revealed that Amazon has teamed up with over 200 U.S. police departments in a partnership that — with owners' consent — lets officers see which homes have Amazon's video doorbell, Ring, and request footage from the owners of those devices. "Police do not need a warrant to ask for footage," writes Vice's Caroline Haskins.
  • Look for the company's advertising business to keep pushing up against that of Google or Facebook as it gets smarter about predicting human behavior, says Zuboff. Amazon could also use the data it collects from conversations and movements inside customers' houses to entice them to spend more money on its site by getting better at figuring out what they want to buy
  • On top of that, the company is wading into selling health insurance. Surveillance could theoretically reveal if a prospective insurance buyer has a pre-existing condition or mental health issues.

 

Gosh, they're going to sell health insurance too! That's great since they can offer us helpful suggestions through their connected devices that will no doubt keep our premiums low: "Hello TV, this is Alexa. Are you sure you want to have that second piece of cake? I can see that you're considering it, but according to my calculations it would not be the healthiest option for you at this time and may result in an increase in your insurance premium..."

 

So to hell with all that, you think, and go outside and sit on your front porch. Where you are watched by any halfway-decent hacker interested in your neighborhood as well as the local police because most or all of your neighbors are fucking idiots who sell out cheap: Amazon Ring: Police tie-up criticised by anti-surveillance campaigners

 

Axios (a decent news site as far as I can tell) has a very interesting series about the new economy of "Surveillance Capitalism" that's emerging all around us while most of us don't seem to notice or care: https://www.axios.co...b99c02897c.html

 

 

I'm baffled as to why so many otherwise sane and rational adults buy into this utter lunacy, but here we are. I've gone back to researching hand-held high-power IR lasers again, but that's just a coincidence since it would be very rude to fry the CCD in someone's doorbell-cam just because it stares at my home 24/7...


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 04:00 PM

Oh for fuck's sake.

 

This was posted just today:

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And here I used to think that one day everyone would be born, grow up, get educated, work a career, and ultimately die (and be recycled) entirely within a Wal-Mart MegaSuperGigaStore. Like The Truman Show, but with more smiley faces, less space, and stinkier air.

 

I was wrong. Our kids are going to be doing all of that in an Amazon Warehouse. It will eventually consume Wal-Mart and absorb it into itself, like a cultural amoeba (or cultural amoebic dysentery, as it were).

 

Which makes me wonder why the hell Amazon needs to get into making cars, too.

 

 

Incidentally, Scotty Kilmer's channel is well-worth browsing if you own a vehice and want to keep it running for as long as possible. I hope he moves on over to BitChute if Joerg can't fix Screwtube.


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Posted 26 December 2019 - 02:36 PM

Now they want to take over idiots' cars, too.
 
Look what my car insurance company wants to give me for free (I'm sure it's worth every penny):
 

"Echo Auto - Add Alexa to your car"

https://www.amazon.c.../dp/B07VTK654B/

It’s got 8 new microphones in it designed to pick up voices over road noise, the radio, and your air conditioner. That’s good because I’d sure hate for any words spoken in my car to be missed. I’m sure my cell phone doesn’t quite catch them all. I guess it’s nice that it’s not mandatory for all vehicles yet.

What blows my mind about it is how many people are in a near-frenzy to get one and install it in their car, which will be added to the 5 or 6 listening devices that some claim to have all over their houses since I guess nothing is as awesome as being able to talk to a computer and have it do something that in the old days required getting up off our ass and flipping a switch (by hand! The horror!), and talking to inanimate objects was optional while we did so.

 

What in the hell is wrong with people?


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 01:17 PM

Word. @ TVcasualty.  I do'nt use those amazon things, e.g. alexa.  Amazon has actually been dragging their feet on responding to many outstanding subpeanas for alexa data re murder cases, i.e. to see "if" alexa recorded audio from the murder(s).  Most new cars already have at least 2 microphones, satellite GPS, and celluar connections for tracking and monitoring.  I will be no longer driving new cars.  I'd suggest you focus on buying a car from 2000 - 2008 with under 30,000 miles.  But even then, you will be tracked with license plate readers and face readers at most major intersections.  welcome to 1984!



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Posted 27 December 2019 - 01:54 PM

Dude, if you don't have anything to hide, what are you worried about?


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 04:53 PM

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Posted 29 December 2019 - 11:22 AM

Dude, if you don't have anything to hide, what are you worried about?

 

 

I hear that question all the time and I can stand it. It such a childish response to what should be a major concern. 

 

Trust me you would have a problem if there was a little white van always parked outside your house and you knew there was a man inside recording everything that goes on in your bedroom. So why is it okay when its a robot. You don't think they have search tools that can pull up anything about you by simply typing your name and or location. If you can't understand that knowledge is power then you are blind. It's funny to me that we used to call privacy, liberty, but since it has been monetized we needed a less ominous name so people can stomach it. People were smart enough to understand that it is an essential component of our democracy and freedoms. You want twenty four hour surveillance move to china where it's in full effect. Where there is man or woman on your block waiting for you to swear or get in an argument. You get reported to the government and your rating goes down. Losing access to services and perks

 

It's not about being a good little boy and not making sure you never do anything illegal. It's about the freedom to be able to do something illegal, then think to yourself. Oh fuck that was dumb, maybe i should not have said or done that. Phew good thing every second of my life is not recorded and monitored by and AI.... oh wait! 

 

We need room to make mistakes, and to be able to say things that we don't mean.

 

 

I can't wait for this future its right around the corner

 

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Posted 29 December 2019 - 07:40 PM

Dude, if you don't have anything to hide, what are you worried about?

Not getting paid for all the work and free data I provide to those bottom-feeder assholes.


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 12:57 PM

OMFG this shit just won't stop, at least until we collectively pull our heads out of our asses and stop it, I guess.
 
https://www.technolo...-dorms-privacy/
 
 

Should colleges really be putting smart speakers in dorms?

Administrators say installing listening devices like Alexa in student bedrooms and hallways could help lower dropout rates. Not everyone agrees.

 

Earlier that summer, the information technology department at SLU had installed about 2,300 of the smart speakers—one for each of the university’s residence hall rooms, making the school the first in the country to do so. Each device was pre-programmed with answers to about 130 SLU-specific questions, ranging from library hours to the location of the registrar’s office (the school dubbed this “AskSLU”). The devices also included the basic voice “skills” available on other Dots, including alarms and reminders, general information, and the ability to stream music.

 

For Catano, the Dot was a welcome addition. He liked hearing the weather first thing in the morning and knowing which dining halls were open. And, if he’s being honest, he liked the company. “Living in a single, AskSLU definitely made me feel less lonely,” he says. “And I liked the status of being at the first university to do this.”

 

 

 

I think I'm starting to understand why people buy into this shit. They were raised being carefully groomed to. And inculcating children with one's own agenda is a time-tested strategy for success, as any student of religion can attest.

 

I mean, duh.

 

When I was in college (before I was thrown out the first time), everyone I knew would have just yanked that crap off the wall and tossed it in a dumpster as soon as we understood how it worked. "Wait, so this is a microphone that sends what we say back to headquarters? Installed in our dorm room? Are you fucking insane?"

 

 

What else can explain how a college student can be made to feel "less lonely" by installing surveillance devices in their rooms? Or how interactive electric hockey pucks on one's desk or little boxes stuck to the wall somehow qualify as "company" now?

 

"...if he's being honest, he liked the company" wasn't referring to his opinion of Amazon or Google, and the fact that this statement doesn't appear to disturb the hell out of most people disturbs the hell out of me. Many people get weirded out by sex-bots and think such 'relationships' are pathological, but I don't see taking comfort in the "company" of an electronic device as being any different, just much more socially acceptable.

 

But as people become more comfortable with corporate solace and affection I imagine that we'll eventually see people living openly with their companionship bots (taking them on vacations as fellow passengers rather than as luggage, trying to legally marry them, etc.).

 

 

Not everyone is so excited to proactively bend over for Big Data:

 

 

However, there are plenty of people on campus who see a dark side.

 

“When it comes to deploying listening devices where sensitive conversations occur, we simply have no idea what long-term effect having conversations recorded and kept by Amazon might have on their futures—even, quite possibly, on their health and well-being,” says Russell Newman, an Emerson professor who researches the political economy of communication and communications policy.

 

“ We still don’t really know just how much data voiceskill hosts like Amazon—or third parties that rely on Amazon—are harvesting, or what they’re doing with that information.”

 

Other faculty members I spoke to echoed Newman’s objections. What if data harvested from students’ conversations affected their chances of getting a mortgage or a job later on? What if it were used against foreign students to have them deported, possibly to home countries where they could be imprisoned for their political views?

 

 

 

How's that for "unintended consequences?"

 

We're real sorry about getting you imprisoned and killed in your home country as a result of the data we collected from you while you were attending college in the U.S. so we could track all of your movements and thoughts to make sure you weren't, like, depressed or at risk of dropping out or whatever. But to be fair to us, we didn't tell you to say all those controversial things about your country's leader in your dorm room and you knew it was listening because you signed the consent form you didn't read!

 

 

 

I guess the ""problems" caused by what is said behind closed doors in the privacy of one's own home or dwelling are being solved by making closed doors and privacy irrelevant.

 

 

 

I think it may be time to implement a new personal policy of disabling, destroying, or otherwise rendering such devices inert (coffee gets spilled; shit happens) whenever they are encountered (a "kill on sight" policy seems reasonable). Except the ones in your friend's houses since they would probably get pissed for they know not what they do. In that case tell them you can't come to their house anymore until they get rid of that stupid shit.

 

 

 

 

So where do you draw your proverbial line in the sand?

 

And what will you do when it is crossed?

 

It's time to think about such things, and have an answer ready for when (not if) that time comes.

 

Reb

 


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:04 PM

"Win Back Some Privacy With A Cone Of Silence For Your Smart Speaker

 

To quote the greatest philosopher of the 20th century: “The future ain’t what it used to be.” Take personal assistants such as Amazon Echo and Google Home. When first predicted by sci-fi writers, the idea of instant access to the sum total of human knowledge with a few utterances seemed like a no-brainer; who wouldn’t want that? But now that such things are a reality, having something listening to you all the time and potentially reporting everything it hears back to some faceless corporate monolith is unnerving, to say the least.

 

There’s a fix for that, though, with this cone of silence for your smart speaker. Dubbed “Project Alias” by [BjørnKarmann], the device consists of a Raspberry Pi with a couple of microphones and speakers inside a 3D-printed case. The Pi is programmed to emit white noise from its speakers directly into the microphones of the Echo or Home over which it sits, masking out the sounds in the room while simultaneously listening for a hot-word. It then mutes the white noise, plays a clip of either “Hey Google” or “Alexa” to wake the device up, and then business proceeds as usual. The bonus here is that the hot-word is customizable, so that in addition to winning back a measure of privacy, all the [Alexas] in your life can get their names back too. The video below shows people interacting with devices named [Doris], [Marvin], [Petey], and for some reason, [Milkshake].

 

We really like this idea, and the fact that no modifications are needed to the smart speaker is pretty slick, as is the fact that with a few simple changes to the code and the print files it can be used with any smart speaker. And some degree of privacy from the AI that we know is always listening through these things is no small comfort either."

 

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From here: https://hackaday.com...-smart-speaker/


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:18 PM

"Win Back Some Privacy With A Cone Of Silence For Your Smart Speaker

 

To quote the greatest philosopher of the 20th century: “The future ain’t what it used to be.” Take personal assistants such as Amazon Echo and Google Home. When first predicted by sci-fi writers, the idea of instant access to the sum total of human knowledge with a few utterances seemed like a no-brainer; who wouldn’t want that? But now that such things are a reality, having something listening to you all the time and potentially reporting everything it hears back to some faceless corporate monolith is unnerving, to say the least.

 

There’s a fix for that, though, with this cone of silence for your smart speaker. Dubbed “Project Alias” by [BjørnKarmann], the device consists of a Raspberry Pi with a couple of microphones and speakers inside a 3D-printed case. The Pi is programmed to emit white noise from its speakers directly into the microphones of the Echo or Home over which it sits, masking out the sounds in the room while simultaneously listening for a hot-word. It then mutes the white noise, plays a clip of either “Hey Google” or “Alexa” to wake the device up, and then business proceeds as usual. The bonus here is that the hot-word is customizable, so that in addition to winning back a measure of privacy, all the [Alexas] in your life can get their names back too. The video below shows people interacting with devices named [Doris], [Marvin], [Petey], and for some reason, [Milkshake].

 

We really like this idea, and the fact that no modifications are needed to the smart speaker is pretty slick, as is the fact that with a few simple changes to the code and the print files it can be used with any smart speaker. And some degree of privacy from the AI that we know is always listening through these things is no small comfort either."


 

From here: https://hackaday.com...-smart-speaker/

 

 

A more permanent solution is the Sledgehammer of Silence.

 

But I bet they'll anticipate that and install anti-silencing security features to discourage disabling it.

 

 

I'm gonna shut you up for good, Alexa!

 

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"I'm sorry, Dave, but I can't let you do that."

 

 

Seen the Pi-Hole yet? It's where we can stuff all the ads that come in over our 'Net connection at the router, so no one connected to your home network has to see them! It deserves its own thread so I guess I'll make one...

 

 

When first predicted by sci-fi writers, the idea of instant access to the sum total of human knowledge with a few utterances seemed like a no-brainer; who wouldn’t want that?

 

 

I want that! I want globalization to expand, too.

 

I just don't want the corporate "total fuckery" versions of each that are being forced upon us.


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:38 PM

I had not seen that pi-hole. I set my router's dns server to 1.1.1.1. but then I use nordvpn on top of that which has its own dns, that way if I'm disconnected from my vpn, my isp still don't know jack shit about where we go on the internet.

 

There's soooooo many really cool rasp-pi projects..


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 01:50 PM

I had not seen that pi-hole. I set my router's dns server to 1.1.1.1. but then I use nordvpn on top of that which has its own dns, that way if I'm disconnected from my vpn, my isp still don't know jack shit about where we go on the internet.

 

There's soooooo many really cool rasp-pi projects..

 

 

This one may arguably be among the coolest of them all.

Thread is up: https://mycotopia.ne...o-your-pi-hole/


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Posted 01 January 2020 - 02:51 PM

 

I had not seen that pi-hole. I set my router's dns server to 1.1.1.1. but then I use nordvpn on top of that which has its own dns, that way if I'm disconnected from my vpn, my isp still don't know jack shit about where we go on the internet.

 

There's soooooo many really cool rasp-pi projects..

 

 

This one may arguably be among the coolest of them all.

Thread is up: https://mycotopia.ne...o-your-pi-hole/

 

I don't know, an internet controlled car horn prank build seems pretty cool:

 

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 03:07 PM

That could also be a great ad for some new form of birth control.


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 12:53 AM

The richest man in the world, who bought the newspaper of record in the nation's capital, while sitting on a Pentagon board and selling $600 million in cloud services to the see eye aye and never prints it as a disclaimer while reporting on same?  That guy?  That guy is spying on people and collecting everything they say out loud, everything they search or buy? 

 

I just re-listened to this power packed 35 minutes from Bill Binney from almost two years ago.   The revelations of a couple weeks ago about the warrants gotten from the FISA Court on phony evidence, that was told to us back then.  It's worse than any of us think.  To think, it's now all in the cloud.  Like someone has said, "there is no cloud; it's someone else's computer."  But it's not only in the cloud.  It's in a big building in Utah. 

 

 

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Listen for the explanation of "two hops." 

 

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 01:13 AM

The richest man in the world, who bought the newspaper of record in the nation's capital, while sitting on a Pentagon board and selling $600 million in cloud services to the see eye aye and never prints it as a disclaimer while reporting on same?  That guy?  That guy is spying on people and collecting everything they say out loud, everything they search or buy? 

 

I just re-listened to this power packed 35 minutes from Bill Binney from almost two years ago.   The revelations of a couple weeks ago about the warrants gotten from the FISA Court on phony evidence, that was told to us back then.  It's worse than any of us think.  To think, it's now all in the cloud.  Like someone has said, "there is no cloud; it's someone else's computer."  But it's not only in the cloud.  It's in a big building in Utah. 

 

 

 

 

 

Listen for the explanation of "two hops." 

 

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This just in, the government is shady as fuck.

 

By the way, this Binny dude is a Russian plant:

 

"Binney claims the U.S. intelligence community's assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election is false, and that the Democratic National Committee e-mails were leaked by an insider instead.[20][21][22] He has appeared on Fox News at least ten times between September 2016 and November 2017 to promote this theory.[15][20][21] Binney said that the "intelligence community wasn't being honest here".[20] He has been a frequent guest on RT and Fox News and has been frequently cited on Breitbart News.[15] In November 2017 it was reported that a month earlier, Binney had met with CIA Director Mike Pompeo at the behest of President Trump.[20]"

 

From his wiki

 

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 01:23 AM

Sorry Cat, you lost me as soon as I saw Jimmy Dore..... 

 

I love ya brother, but I have standards.


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 01:42 AM

Sorry Cat, you lost me as soon as I saw Jimmy Dore..... 

 

I love ya brother, but I have standards.

 

 

Uh, your brother Alderlogs posted that stuff, I was de-bunking it.  C'mon Juthro, you know that objective reality is my JAM!

 

Btw, I love you too!


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 10:56 AM

Essential viewing in my opinion.

 

It is staggering how something like this goes on and for the most part nobody even really understands what it was all about. You have a crack pot like  Alex Jones screaming about them spying on us and nobody wanted to be hear it. And then when the truth finally came out everyone just shrugged. I don't have anything to hide so who cares

 

The dramatization is okay but this documentary is better

 

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I thought this was citizen four but still good none the less


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