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#2161 MushLuvR

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Posted 08 November 2021 - 09:04 PM

A Florida strain called Peace River.  Not the prettiest of Pans, but Beautiful to ME.  

 

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The last pic is from the BIG fruit(from previous posts) in the Mini 

Mono, crazy the biggest fruit wasn't from the

tent.  Overall though, much nicer fruits across the board

in the mini GH.  I'm almost 100% positive I cased them a little too

thick giving me horrific Pinsets, so I harvested up the trays and spread the 

casing(free patching why not) and even removed some after harvest.  I'm just starting to see new Pins

this morning, so here they come again.  Just enjoying and learning their quirks

at this stage.  They perked up with the Air increase towards the end which in turn, kicks on 

the humidity more.  Just having a ball playing with these.  Stay Shroomy!   :smoking-hookah:


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#2162 rockyfungus

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Posted 14 November 2021 - 06:22 PM

Nice job!

 

2nd attempt at pans and deviating a bit from my first substrate (verm, coir, manure, hay). I baked for years before giving it up for mycology, so I go by feel. Hope verm wasn't needed but I'll revise for next jars finishing up. 

 

Nothing new here just my latest rendition of cold lime pasteurization. 

I roughly fill my containers with manure to get a feel for how much shit I need. Find a container and fill it with cold water about the level of manure.

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Then a layer of hay on top. Stir with a stick. Add a bit of pasteurized lime till you're super alkaline. 

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Let soak for 4-6 hours and agitate when you can. 

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I then use a paint bucket with a ton of holes drilled into the bottom as a colander. Keep all that shit water for your garden or compost.

Strain and get a feel for that texture. Light and airy but dense enough to support myc. I dunno just get your hands shitty...If feels muddy add some vermiculite. 

 

Bottom layer of sub in container, layer of spawn, another thin layer of sub and let them colonize.

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Posted 17 November 2021 - 11:06 AM

Those 3 trays are recovering really well. One of them seemed a bit wet so I tossed some cvg on top under the flow.

The 2 that are wetter I'm considering drying under the flow or throwing some CVG on top. THOUGHTS?

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Another jar finished up. 5/6 recovered post shake.

This sub is going to be lazily pasteurized. Bringing PC up to hissing. Shutting it off and putting on the weight. I'll proceed to forget about it.
Sub is 2 handfuls CVG, 3 handfuls manure, 1 handful hay or I winged it. Feels nice and airy especially as I fluff it by hand.

 

If I got too much sub may try cubes on shit. Never done that inside only outside.


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Posted 17 November 2021 - 12:55 PM

All of  you guys wow

looking good  . no amazing !

i am working on a  MYCOTOPIA Fund raiser .

i bought some Pan Estero prints for it and the vendor generously  threw in a few more pan Estero prints and some sets of pan Estero swabs for the fund raiser    . These i will be sending out to people that send donations , I'm still working on the wording and logistics .

il link here when i get  fundraiser thread up n posted .

I mentioned this on the chat and a good member offered too send a bunch of interesting cube prints as bonus prints to go out with the pan prints .

 

STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFO !


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#2165 rockyfungus

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Posted 17 November 2021 - 01:30 PM

I have more wild coast prints then I know what to do with.

My Estero print is mold. May need to swap for the fund
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Posted 18 November 2021 - 01:49 PM

My past attempts at copes all had them stalling out for some reason. Just need to try again and adapt.



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Posted 18 November 2021 - 02:21 PM

Stalling on grain?
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Posted 22 November 2021 - 08:09 PM

My past attempts at copes all had them stalling out for some reason. Just need to try again and adapt.

Hey Jack, don't despair - I was there for nearly two years and now am enjoying the fruits (ahem!) of my labor. I was also getting stalls, mainly at the bulk substrate stage. I go spores -> agar -> Grain -> Bulk substrate -> casing and fruiting chamber. Some things to consider: a good white, fluffy and fast growing agar colony is an absolute. If you get this, the rest should be straight forward. The issue that killed me was a bacteria I had in the house, Serratia marcescens, aka pink ring in toilet bowl. It is rather innocuous but I am convinced it was the source of all my issues including spawn not colonizing or fruiting and oysters not fruiting despite good strong spawn. Once I eradicated it, mushrooms started fruiting.

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Posted 22 November 2021 - 08:41 PM

My P. cyan wild coast cased on 11/01 is slowly coming to an end but what a run it was. The flushes/waves started shortly after casing and I was getting a large handful every couple of days from say a couple of 10 x 10 trays and 4 small eat out trays. Every couple of days I would harvest the large ones and fix and irrigate the casing layer with a syringe. I didn't hold back on the irrigation adding approximately 50 mls to a 10" x 10" tray. My substrate recipe was 8 pts dry slightly packed chopped straw, 4 pts hpoo, 2 parts coarse vermiculite and 1 part garden gypsum, all by volume. I described my fruiting chamber earlier which runs at 75 - 77 F and dry fresh air and humidity cycling every 3 hours. Feels good after all this time but with encouragement from this forum's crew.

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 06:22 AM

OK, here I have Pan. Cyan. on grain. (Hope it is anyway).

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Do they like pasteurised coir/moopoo? Or where do I go from here?

 

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Posted 23 November 2021 - 12:20 PM

Looks good Scott. I think many people do 2:1 straw:hpoo with some gypsum and vermiculite mixed in?

Congrats Nurko, those look great!
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Posted 23 November 2021 - 07:20 PM

Looks good Scott. I think many people do 2:1 straw:hpoo with some gypsum and vermiculite mixed in?

Congrats Nurko, those look great!

Does Paneolus need a casing?



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Posted 23 November 2021 - 10:58 PM

Hello Everyone, I have made several failed attempts at cultivating P. Bisporus and P. Peace River but I am determined to learn how to successfully grow Panaeolus, so I am trying again. Last week I received a spore print of P. Esteros from the very generous GordoTek, and I tell you what - this critter grows like the dickens on agar. Here are two agar cups that I inoculated on the 19th. The spores were applied in an S shape using an inoculation loop. Growth started within 24 hours of inoculation, and today (the 4th day of growth) the mycelium expanded dramatically, as shown in the photos. By the way the round whitish out of focus blob in each image is the divot on the lid of the agar cup. 

 

I could use some advice: Which areas in these cups show the most desirable growth? I want to cut these areas out tomorrow to inoculate some white millet mycobags with. Thank you. 

 

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#2174 rockyfungus

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 11:48 AM

Looks good Scott. I think many people do 2:1 straw:hpoo with some gypsum and vermiculite mixed in?

Congrats Nurko, those look great!

Does Paneolus need a casing?

Yes maybe 1/4 inch 50:50 as thin and level as possible after it tears through pasteurized hpoo/verm/hay.
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Posted 24 November 2021 - 12:01 PM

VERY thin casing, I went maybe 3/8's thick, too much, next round I'll be going an 8th inch thick or closer to a quarter.  All good, part of the process.  


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Posted 24 November 2021 - 01:59 PM

4 trays almost fully colonized. Going to give them another 2 days or so. I'll case 2 thin as possible covering myc up. Next like 2x as thin maybe few cms (2-3max). I eyeball everything. Not even sure what a 1/4 inch is. 


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Posted 24 November 2021 - 03:27 PM

Here are phots taken just now of the mycelium in the agar cups, which is continuing to expand. I hope someone here can guide me as to which areas of the growth to harvest for inoculating grain with. The thin whispy outer parts? The more dense looking outer parts? I await your counsel, with thanks.. 

 

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 05:36 PM

It's all good. You should have watched which patch grew fastest. Go for the wispest you are comfortable with. Or at this point cuz it's so grown out somewhere central.
Watch for thin faster sections. Best to run a bunch of grains with diff fast sections and see what works...



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Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:26 PM

It's all good. You should have watched which patch grew fastest. Go for the wispest you are comfortable with. Or at this point cuz it's so grown out somewhere central.
Watch for thin faster sections. Best to run a bunch of grains with diff fast sections and see what works...


Thanks Rocky. This growth is only 4 days from spores and the sections grew pretty much simultaneously. I have read of Paneolus mycelium needing to be wispy but with my attempts at growing P. Bisporus and P. Peace River I chose wispy and they never colonized the grain fully after a single shake. Very fragile and not very vigorous. Prob something I did incorrectly..

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:56 PM

Grab a mixture. Experiment is the key to this hobby. What the hell is wispy anyways???

I like my rectangle tupperwares. Grab 3 spots and see who overgrows rest. Grab that dude and done by T2-T3

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(Not Pan cyans. This is Psilo cyan, still way I like to compare vigor. Weak in middle, either outter dude was bitching. Don't look for these ropes LOL)


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