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#2241 Arathu

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Posted 11 June 2022 - 06:57 AM

Whoa! Friggin awesome work Yoshi.....

 

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Posted 11 June 2022 - 02:46 PM

Alabama, 2nd tub, 2nd flush, these little things just keep going! They'll get one more flush then, outside!

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Posted 11 June 2022 - 04:50 PM

Yashi have your out door discarded subs . fruited much outside ?


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Posted 11 June 2022 - 05:19 PM

I Been sick with the covid  not much  reading the last cpl weeks .

The last book i read was Graham Hancock's book  MARS Mystery ,

  If you have the slightest concern about the possibility of Earth having a catastrophic impact collision with a  meteor or comet fragment  ! !

 

This book will Freak You The Fuck OUT !

 

it has a lot of very interesting info !

 

very interesting read

 

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Posted 11 June 2022 - 09:20 PM

Last year I had a couple pan mush fruit outside,. Hopefully I have a better strategy for this year.
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Posted 12 June 2022 - 09:56 AM

This is a great thread ... I remember Whitethumb, peacefrog and I all had a Pan thread we all worked on various projects together and collaborated on things ect. It was a great thing . Glad to see someone doing more of this . Great picture and I like the little print stickers lol those are a cute little invention haha. I started to tinker with Pans way back when I wanted to challenge myself. I have only done multi spore so I've never had flushes that nice ✔ well done
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Posted 14 June 2022 - 11:55 AM

I’ve been growing cubes for a couple years now. I want to start Copelandia next month. But I’ve always been intimidated by them. First of their price. I can eat a $12 cube syringe if I mess up, but $30 each is a gamble I don’t like. So I’m thinking about making a LC first. Is karo/water sufficient for copes? Still 4% as well? Next is I have only moved from cakes to casing, spawn bags, bulk substrate and mono tubs this year. Which I know is the most efficient way to grow them. So in order to not fail here either, I plan to buy a pre-sterilized organic grain spawn bag with injection port and a horse manure based dung loving bulk substrate. If I get this right and able to make a few prints from my harvest, I’ll be able to experiment with my own home made spawn bags and bulk substrate. Anyone has any advice or suggestions to my plan?
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Posted 14 June 2022 - 09:56 PM

Here is pan cyan 'Alabama' 3rd flush from tub 1, unfortunately they went a day longer than I wanted. On the plus side, nice big, easy to print caps! :) I also harvested tub 2 and both subs went outside into a trashcan with compost and cacti soil. Hopefully I get lucky again!

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Posted 14 June 2022 - 10:34 PM

I’ve been growing cubes for a couple years now. I want to start Copelandia next month. But I’ve always been intimidated by them. First of their price. I can eat a $12 cube syringe if I mess up, but $30 each is a gamble I don’t like. So I’m thinking about making a LC first. Is karo/water sufficient for copes? Still 4% as well? Next is I have only moved from cakes to casing, spawn bags, bulk substrate and mono tubs this year. Which I know is the most efficient way to grow them. So in order to not fail here either, I plan to buy a pre-sterilized organic grain spawn bag with injection port and a horse manure based dung loving bulk substrate. If I get this right and able to make a few prints from my harvest, I’ll be able to experiment with my own home made spawn bags and bulk substrate. Anyone has any advice or suggestions to my plan?


Growing pans just takes a little more focus Nick, they are not that much more difficult than cubes just less forgiving. Many people use LC so hopefully someone will give specifics on that. If you don't already, you might look into agar. It is very similar to making LC and opens up the world of spore prints to you. This allows you to be sure you are putting clean genetics to grain or subs. As a start, buying your ready made grains and subs is very convenient and should work for you? If you become engulfed by this hobby (like many of us) you'll eventually start making your own grains and subs which is not difficult and allows for fine tuning and experimentation. I personally use a high % of straw in my pan grows along with compost and worm poo. That said, I still have a lot to learn myself about growing pans!

Good luck and feel free to post whatever questions you might have.

Hopefully you've already read Asura's write up.

https://mycotopia.ne...anescens/page-1

I will add, I use MS from agar instead of isolating for specific traits.
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Posted 15 June 2022 - 11:03 AM

I’ve been growing cubes for a couple years now. I want to start Copelandia next month. But I’ve always been intimidated by them. First of their price. I can eat a $12 cube syringe if I mess up, but $30 each is a gamble I don’t like. So I’m thinking about making a LC first. Is karo/water sufficient for copes? Still 4% as well? Next is I have only moved from cakes to casing, spawn bags, bulk substrate and mono tubs this year. Which I know is the most efficient way to grow them. So in order to not fail here either, I plan to buy a pre-sterilized organic grain spawn bag with injection port and a horse manure based dung loving bulk substrate. If I get this right and able to make a few prints from my harvest, I’ll be able to experiment with my own home made spawn bags and bulk substrate. Anyone has any advice or suggestions to my plan?

Growing pans just takes a little more focus Nick, they are not that much more difficult than cubes just less forgiving. Many people use LC so hopefully someone will give specifics on that. If you don't already, you might look into agar. It is very similar to making LC and opens up the world of spore prints to you. This allows you to be sure you are putting clean genetics to grain or subs. As a start, buying your ready made grains and subs is very convenient and should work for you? If you become engulfed by this hobby (like many of us) you'll eventually start making your own grains and subs which is not difficult and allows for fine tuning and experimentation. I personally use a high % of straw in my pan grows along with compost and worm poo. That said, I still have a lot to learn myself about growing pans!
Good luck and feel free to post whatever questions you might have.
Hopefully you've already read Asura's write up.https://mycotopia.ne...anescens/page-1
I will add, I use MS from agar instead of isolating for specific traits.
After your post I studied Agar. It seems easier than LC and you’re right about ensuring clean genetics. I read somewhere here that in the case of a MS to agar plate. If there is contam on one side, you can simply slice the clean side and place on another plate or use it. Is this true? My superstition with contams is never to open around my work area due to possible contam spores getting airborne. Instead, isolate from the work area and discard outside and clean container outside before bringing it back inside.
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Posted 15 June 2022 - 12:09 PM

Yes, with agar, typically you take a small amount of genetics from a dirty plate (I use jars) to a clean plate. As you develop your technique, within a transfer or two, you should have clean genetics that you'll allow to grow out. From that clean plate, you can transfer to LC, grain, all in one subs or even make more plates. The issue with agar and LC is cleanliness so you might look into a Still Air Box (SAB) or if you really get into the hobby a Laminar Flow Hood or a "custom" HEPA fan.

Yes, do not open very nasty contaminated vessels in your work space. Sometimes plates are so nasty it is better to start over. The strategy with agar is to transfer as soon as there is mycelium growth before the contamination has a chance to spread. In severe cases, there is antibiotic agar too.

Good luck!
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Posted 16 June 2022 - 09:28 PM

I prefer the agar route as well - I've had no luck with LC's. The LC liquor must be sterilized hot and long enpugh to kill all contaminants yet not so hot and long so as to carmalize the liquor. I have not found the magical combination of pressure and time. I did a number of trials at 10 psi and 26 minutes but none colonized well.

 

The most important step with Pans is to isolate and then grow out on agar only white and fluffy mycelium that grew fast. If you get here successfully, you are well on your way to success.


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Posted 19 June 2022 - 03:02 PM

Alabama tubs, now outside in the bottom of a trashcan that has drainage holes, a layer of pea gravel, layer of compost, 2 whole subs, cacti soil layer and some drip lines.

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Posted 20 June 2022 - 12:22 PM

Those are pans!? Love seeing what real FAE provides. I swear those are tamps or mexs.


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Posted 22 June 2022 - 02:21 PM

Mom taking over the Alabama grow!

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Posted 24 June 2022 - 10:27 AM

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Wild cinctulus. Thanks nature.


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Posted 24 June 2022 - 06:12 PM

Nice, Cincts are one of my favorites, I believe they form beautiful "blue" pearls as well.  Need me a print one of these days, thought I had an LC of it awhile back, NOT so much... source NO bueno.  Healthy vibrant fruits you have, that ring on the CAP though....  :thumbs_up:

 

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Posted 25 June 2022 - 10:46 PM

Blue pearls?
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Posted 25 June 2022 - 11:28 PM

Sclerotia 


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Posted 26 June 2022 - 11:17 AM

Appreciate the assist there Rocky, he shoots, and he Scores.  Gorgeous Pan Caps and Stone possibilities... dual threat... I can dig it (Dirt Makers).   :meditate:

 

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