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#81 KapnDank

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 05:26 PM

An uneven surface will affect pinset. It'll be ok though. And as far as exotics go stone producers seem pretty easy especially if you have a spot to put a flowerpot of them outdoors. My little flowerpot is turning out really well and nothing about it was any more difficult than a cube grow. In fact I think there's a thread about them titled "just as easy as cubes"

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 06:29 PM

I will have to look into flower pots. So far my research has been focused on cubes. I do not know anything at all about the rest. As it stands right now, if half of what I have growing works I will be a happy man.



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Posted 09 September 2019 - 07:07 PM

I was convincing myself at one point that I would benefit so and so much from casing and was kicking myself for listening to my intuitions instead of my scientific bias,. Now I got a very decent pinset coming and am actually glad,. I’m going to in the future play with casings but not until I have the basics of growing down 100 percent. :)
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Posted 09 September 2019 - 07:19 PM

You just colonize grains, spawn to bags, and crumble into flowerpots then apply a thin casing and stick her outdoors. Keep the casing WET. I don't think there's a Tek or anything on it just some peeps mentioning doing it.

Most of what you learn with cubes will carry over to pans and stone producers. For the most part they just need more FAE than cubes and require a casing. Oh yeah and pans like warmer temps and poo in their subs for decent results. You don't even have to fruit the stone producers if you don't want to just harvest the stones out of the grains. Anyways just wanted to share that with y'all. I grew cubes for 10 years thinking exotics might be beyond my capabilities and regret not trying them out sooner. Granted ten years ago there was little info on growing them.
Anyways sorry to derail the thread lol
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Posted 09 September 2019 - 07:30 PM

You just colonize grains, spawn to bags, and crumble into flowerpots then apply a thin casing and stick her outdoors. Keep the casing WET. I don't think there's a Tek or anything on it just some peeps mentioning doing it.

Most of what you learn with cubes will carry over to pans and stone producers. For the most part they just need more FAE than cubes and require a casing. Oh yeah and pans like warmer temps and poo in their subs for decent results. You don't even have to fruit the stone producers if you don't want to just harvest the stones out of the grains. Anyways just wanted to share that with y'all. I grew cubes for 10 years thinking exotics might be beyond my capabilities and regret not trying them out sooner. Granted ten years ago there was little info on growing them.
Anyways sorry to derail the thread lol

No I am glad you mentioned this. I never even heard of "stone producers"... only wood lovers. Can I assume a stone producer is a truffle? I live in the south where it is hot and humid in the summer. It gets cold in the winter but snow is rare.



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Posted 09 September 2019 - 07:35 PM

I was convincing myself at one point that I would benefit so and so much from casing and was kicking myself for listening to my intuitions instead of my scientific bias,. Now I got a very decent pinset coming and am actually glad,. I’m going to in the future play with casings but not until I have the basics of growing down 100 percent. :)

I don't know much yet but so far what I HAVE learned is there are so many variations on this theme and none of them are necessarily wrong.


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#87 KapnDank

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 07:36 PM

Yep they're truffles. Native to southern US as well as Mexico. 2 most common species is Mexicana and tampanensis. Mexicana from Mexico obviously and tampanensis found in Mississippi on over to Florida where it got its name by being found in Tampa. I will have some prints very soon.
The climate you live in sounds pretty ideal. If you're not too far from the coast you may be able to pull pan cyans off outdoors too. They need extra humidity
Also the stone producers have been described as being like a Cadillac whereas cubes are compared to a geo. I have only taken some microdoses of the stones but even in that minute of an amount you can tell quite a difference. Hope to take a proper dose this weekend. The fruits of the species I'm speaking of are also known to be quite a bit more potent by weight as well than cubes.

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:11 PM

Yep they're truffles. Native to southern US as well as Mexico.

I watched an episode of Hamiltons Pharmacia on YouTube that introduced me to Truffles. A very interesting episode if you have not seen it. (Link below)

I knew about the truffles, I just did not know they were refered to as "stone producers" even though the nickname is spot on for what they are. I definitely want to try growing them. In the video link below they show a large scale growing company in Amsterdam (where they are legal).

 

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:17 PM

Sweet thanks for the vid. Love Hamilton's pharmacopoeia and haven't seen that episode. My profile pic is actually from that show. Yep they actually call them philosophers stones but stones for short. Some people even call stone producers "stoners" for short in case you've seen that term thrown around and threw you off like it did me the first time. I was thinking of a completely different kind of stoner lol
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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:18 PM

 If you're not too far from the coast you may be able to pull pan cyans off outdoors too. They need extra humidity
Also the stone producers have been described as being like a Cadillac whereas cubes are compared to a geo.

I am about 100 miles from the coast. I live in a forest, very humid, almost all shade.



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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:19 PM

Sweet thanks for the vid. Love Hamilton's pharmacopoeia and haven't seen that episode. My profile pic is actually from that show. Yep they actually call them philosophers stones but stones for short. Some people even call stone producers "stoners" for short in case you've seen that term thrown around and threw you off like it did me the first time. I was thinking of a completely different kind of stoner lol

Yeah, stoners would have had me thinking something else as well. LOL



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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:22 PM

My profile pic is actually from that show.

LOL, your profile pic along with your user name has me thinking of a breakfast cereal... except NOT for kids.


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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:24 PM

Lmao love it!
KapnDank's cheery whoa's

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:33 PM

Lmao love it!
KapnDank's cheery whoa's

Cheery Whhhooooooaaaa's


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 08:49 PM

I will have pictures tomorrow but I have some pins on my RW tub.
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Posted 10 September 2019 - 09:04 PM

I will have pictures tomorrow but I have some pins on my RW tub.

Nice!



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Posted 11 September 2019 - 07:39 AM

Buzz you can also put a bag over that shoebox as a humidity dome instead of using two tubs. Just cut some slits to increase FAE if desired.
Your monotub is looking great. I bet the anticipation is killing ya

I bought a 10 pack of the shoeboxes so I figured I may as well dub it. And yeah the anticipation is killing me I can't wait to see it fully colonized let alone see my first pins.
I am using bags on my containers, also. With the right plastic, the bags are better for watching things grow.

A fantastic source of crystal clear "bags" is plastic shrink film. It comes on rolls of film that have a fold on one side. I use a paper hole punch to make 4-20 holes and cover them with micro-pore tape for FAE. The myc doesn't require many, but like you, I can be OCD sometimes.

The cool thing is they are custom bags that are cut to size of the main tub. The bag height is adjusted (by tucking extra plastic underneath the tub to assist in controlling humidity.

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 01:42 PM

Some pin porn for you mycophiles lol. I may have babied my tubs too much. My PE6 shoebox is gonna be more of a hands off approach. 0a62886c4790d91dbe35064b45499a81.jpg0b168d636e7686a445e729f990e6dcf7.jpgcec670b72eae765a1f93d92ed20e1f44.jpgee403e3127d949ad873e422d64a4f674.jpgbbdbf49185f67df72e7191ac4e724aa3.jpgee6620ed095f7505b10728b6aa9b8dd1.jpg
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#99 Jinroh

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 08:41 PM

Some pin porn for you mycophiles lol. I may have babied my tubs too much. My PE6 shoebox is gonna be more of a hands off approach.

 

Hey Buzz, how long did it take for you to get this far on that tub?



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Posted 11 September 2019 - 08:49 PM

From spawn to pins 16-18 days.
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