I had a friend who was a compulsive liar. We did not realize the extent until we graduated and another friend met up with him on a job site years later. He had everyone convinced on site of all this crazy shit. Guy played football in high school, he was mediocre. However he had everyone on that job site convinced he was going pro playing college football. There are definitely some liberal story tellers out there, likely everyone has at least one in their group of friends. You reminded me of him when you stated you mom gets mad when you call her out. Same situation with this guy
Now is that from poor memory so they just have to clumsily fill in the details of stories. Or just a desire to try to tell an interesting story?
I've known a few people like that. It's hard to call them "friends," and they were really more like friends of friends, but I got along with them just fine once I understood the drill. I suppose I studied them more than I hung out with them, and always kept them at arm's length.
The drill was that most of what they said could be assumed to be untrue, so don't make any decisions or spend any money based on anything they say.
One guy in particular fascinating in that regard as he'd lie all the time about everything even if it made him look bad, or made no sense at all. You could call him on it and he'd just keep going without skipping a beat and tough shit for you if you had a problem with it. He got away with some amazing things that normal people would not have even attempted, like claiming he was the nephew of someone famous whose last name he shared to get out of being arrested (which worked, to my amazement and gratitude as I would've otherwise taken a ride with everybody else). The cops had a good "in plain sight" bust (damn door was wide open when they walked up for the noise complaint) but they walked away based only on his commitment to his story, which was total BS. They left the bongs and weed, too (all still very illegal at the time). Granted, he dropped a pretty heavy name for the area, but still...
One time I was talking about another friend of mine who had been diagnosed with leukemia and without skipping a beat the compulsive liar says "My cousin has leukemia, too." But his cousin didn't have cancer, assuming he even HAD a cousin; so why the hell would someone say something like that? I learned to do stuff like immediately ask him "So what was her last white cell count?" and if someone he cared about had leukemia he'd know the answer to that (and he didn't).
I bring that up because this thread is starting to make me suspect that there could be some kind of link between lying (and particularly compulsive lying) and the malleable nature of memory (since we lie mostly to ourselves). It might be interesting to see how well compulsive liars remember events vs. people who lie the normal amount (when checked against a video or other arguably-objective record of events).
And is it a bad thing to bask in the glory of false memories, so long as we make them good/positive and can get away with believing them until we die?
Is there a difference between "being" one of the most amazing and awesome people to ever live vs. believing that you are? If you could believe that you're the pinnacle of human evolution to an unshakeable degree down to the very core of your being then you'd be arguably delusional but would that matter as far as your own estimation of your life and how well it's going? If it's all an illusion anyway then we might as well create the best illusions for ourselves that we can imagine, right?
There'd be no apparent difference between living in a delusion of grandeur and living in actual grandeur, would there? Is there really any difference between the Red Pill and the Blue Pill?
Those might also become very relevant questions as technology advances to the point where we will be able to consciously decide to live in an arbitrary abstract construct (i.e. virtual reality) all the time, or experience intentionally-induced states of consciousness on a 24/7 basis thanks to pharmaceutical research and advances in Neurology.
Edited by TVCasualty, 30 September 2019 - 10:42 AM.