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Communal Psilocybe semperviva/hoogshagenii grow?


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#1 newmoon

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Posted 16 October 2019 - 09:22 PM

Would anyone like to grow these lovely mushrooms together?

 

Here's where I'm at:

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Hoping they'll be ready to put to some cakes and some oats next week. I'm not planning to do any isolating this time around.


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Posted 16 October 2019 - 09:45 PM

Would anyone like to grow these lovely mushrooms together?

 

Here's where I'm at:

 

 

Hoping they'll be ready to put to some cakes and some oats next week. I'm not planning to do any isolating this time around.

 

 

Oh we grow them.

 

https://mycotopia.ne...-semperviva-19/

 

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I'm down for a communal grow, tho!


Edited by CatsAndBats, 16 October 2019 - 09:46 PM.

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#3 newmoon

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Posted 16 October 2019 - 10:03 PM

Oh we grow them.

 

https://mycotopia.ne...-semperviva-19/

 


 

 

Yeah you do! That thread and the others from you, CaptainFuture, peacefrog, donshadow and everyone else just look too cute. TOO cute.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 09:52 PM

Got 6 agar jars looking good so far, and a couple more with some bacteria. Going to take some transfers from those tomorrow, but I should have mycelium to work with either way.

 

I'm thinking I'll try three things this first time around, if they sound reasonable:

1. Cased oats

 

2. Oats -> straw/worm poop in 6qt dub tubs

 

3. Paper/flour cakes - I've been experimenting with these with cubes as an alternative to PF cakes, and want to see how some other species do on them. Cubes seem to like them. By volume I'm using

2 parts shredded newspaper or cardboard : 1 part water : 3/4 parts flour : 1/4 part popcorn

 

Hoping to get something by the end of the year!

 

C&B, what are you thinking for your grow?


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 11:51 PM

Would LOVE to grow these with ya, unfortunately it's just impossible to get prints or syringes :(

I've been looking for years. Vendors just don't stock it.

If you know anywhere they're available I'd love you forever!

 

For now I'll enjoy watching your grow though (slightly jealously lol)



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 12:08 AM

If my grow happens I'll give away prints. I had to ask around a bit...


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 12:21 AM

Count me in! I already have quite a few plates ready to go to grains. My germ plates gave me so many awesome looking colonies I couldn't decide. Lol


Love how these perform on agar.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 12:36 AM

If my grow happens I'll give away prints. I had to ask around a bit...

 

I'm selfishly cheering you on in that case haha!



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 12:40 AM

Lol if I manage a few prints before newmoon I'll hook ya up. I had a hard time hunting these down too. Then one day someone messaged me wanting to trade for some edible cultures.
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Posted 19 October 2019 - 01:00 AM

Lol if I manage a few prints before newmoon I'll hook ya up. I had a hard time hunting these down too. Then one day someone messaged me wanting to trade for some edible cultures.

 

You are a generous and kind soul!!

 

(I love this community and everyone here!!!)


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 04:18 AM

They are an awesome species to view for sure. My second favorite species to work with.

I often wonder why they are not grown that much. I do believe that they are easier than cubes, they just grow in slow motion after the onset of fruiting.

But POWERFUL medicine!

Good vibes and keep this thread alive.
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Posted 19 October 2019 - 11:33 AM

Looking great, KapnDank! I'll bet you'll get there before me. Starting to move into winter in my cold, old house, and everything slows down...

 

Thanks for the blessing, peacefrog! I wonder if they're uncommon just because it's hard to find spores?



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:17 AM

Soooo, how exactly do you pronounce "Hoogshagenii?"

 

Is it 'HŌ-ÓG-SHÁG-ANY-EE'?



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:21 AM

Ha, good question! I always thought it was hoogs-hag-en-ee-ai.

 

Hoogshagen was the guy's name; looked on google translate, and the robot says "hoogshagen" means "high hedges" in Dutch. Any Netherlands maniac around to tell us what's up?

 

"Semperviva" is much nicer :tongue:

 

 

Dropped agar wedges on a few cakes, and it's looking like more plates will be ready to go to grain tomorrow or Thursday. Grows fine on MEA, also seems to do fine with potato starch.



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Posted 24 October 2019 - 09:38 PM

Comrades,

 

Two agar plates looked pretty well colonized, so I sliced 'em up into some cake jars and some oats. If I'm working with a new species I like to start a bunch of agar plates/do a bunch of transfers in case something goes wrong; so far only one has contaminated (bacteria), so I'm looking at a whole lot of jars in the next couple weeks. It's all slow here in the winter, thinking I should put together an incubator...

 

Kap'n, Cats, how are y'all coming along?


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Posted 26 October 2019 - 12:56 AM

I have an extra one of these ceramic heaters if you want it

 

https://www.amazon.c...0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

It works well for me but bear in mind it's designed for a larger area like a room or closet.

If you're making a tote incubator or something else small it might be overkill.

One nice safety feature it has though is a tip-over kill switch on the base, so if it falls over, power is immediately cut.



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Posted 26 October 2019 - 12:03 PM

Thanks, RedOctober! I'm thinking maybe just a cooler with a heat mat/temperature controller, though. Probably just put a few things in it and let the rest move along at their slow pace...

 

The mycelium seems really fluffy on agar, not at all rhizomorphic. Curious to see what it'll look like on grain...



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Posted 26 October 2019 - 04:51 PM

No prob. I think a heat mat w/controller would work very well for a tote.

I wouldn't worry about the fluffiness. Those can turn out just fine.

If you have better colonies you can go with those, but if that's all you have I'm sure it'll work out.

You can always do another plate or two if you're not satisfied with the phenotype you got from the other ones



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Posted 26 October 2019 - 06:38 PM

Yeah, think it might just be how this species is. I found the same thing with Ps. tampanensis - pretty fluffy, not much in the way of rhizomorphic growth compared with Ps. cubensis or the woodloving Psilocybes.



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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:51 PM

Starting to move off of agar onto

oats:

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newspaper/flour/popcorn:

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