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Communal Psilocybe semperviva/hoogshagenii grow?


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#41 Asura

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Posted 17 December 2019 - 12:13 PM

I'm going to do straw, hpoo, sand and supplement with a little BRF.


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Posted 19 December 2019 - 12:20 AM

By the time I got to it today eight PF cakes were ready to case. So, I cased them, watered them a little bit and put them in these deli containers, 4 air holes covered with medical tape to keep the bugs out.

 

Time to wait!

 

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Posted 19 December 2019 - 03:18 AM

You’ll want to keep it pretty humid in there, I can see those cups drying out quickly. How are you providing FAE? I’d recommend getting those jars into a fruiting chamber if you can.

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Posted 19 December 2019 - 10:42 AM

Each container has four 1/4" holes covered with 3M transpore tape (which has much larger pores than the micropore tape). In past cake grows I've found this to be fine for allowing air exchange while maintaining humidity, but I'll keep an eye on them! The containers tend to fog up so it's pretty easy to tell if humidity is OK.


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Posted 19 December 2019 - 12:46 PM

Sounds like you’ve got it under control! Sorry, I shouldn’t be helicoptering. I just hope you get to eat some of these damn fine toadstools!

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Posted 19 December 2019 - 03:19 PM

Not at all, I appreciate the help! I'm new to this species, so with this grow I'm still getting a feel for it. I'm proceeding with the idea that it'll do fine in similar conditions to Ps. tampanensis, which I've grown successfully in the past.

 

I was startled by how deeply the mycelium bruises. After putting those cakes in the "terrariums" I noticed that there was some mycelium on one of the filter lids from when it was colonizing; when I scraped it off it turned pitch black almost immediately.


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 06:38 PM

I fruited a small tub on 1/19. The only reference to pin times I've seen is from CaptainFuture who said

13 days. So hopefully, I will see something in the next few days. I gotta say this species is slow AF.


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 10:13 AM

I fruited a small tub on 1/19. The only reference to pin times I've seen is from CaptainFuture who said

13 days. So hopefully, I will see something in the next few days. I gotta say this species is slow AF.

I don't recall exact figures, but I believe they took around 25 days to pin and then another 3 weeks or so for the fruits to fully develop.   They are indeed the slowest of any, but that's made up for by their zestiness!   =)


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 01:00 PM

Yeah, these are slow! I've had a couple small tubs and some cased cakes going since mid/late December; been misting as needed to keep them humid and keep the casings moist but nothing so far. I think the temperature (high 60s F) might be too low, so I've started another couple small tubs in an incubated setup at 75F.

No signs of contamination anywhere, though.

If these ever decide to fruit I'll be happy to share prints, maybe someone else can hook you up before?

Edit: some of the older threads from CatsAndBats and others had pinning times at up to a month, so I'm not giving up yet.

Edited by newmoon, 31 January 2020 - 01:01 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2020 - 09:35 PM

I don't recall exact figures, but I believe they took around 25 days to pin and then another 3 weeks or so for the fruits to fully develop.   They are indeed the slowest of any, but that's made up for by their zestiness!   =)

 

 

 

Thanks for that. You know, posting time to pins should be standard :D I'm going crazy over here, bc I have no idea when to expect pins.

 

I still don't have anything. Mycelium is poking through the casing layer all over, so I hope it isn't too long.


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 02:51 PM

At 72F, semperviva usual starts pinning in 20-25 days.
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Posted 01 February 2020 - 05:25 PM

You think I should pull it out of my grow room? Temps are set for pan cyans and are around 77F.



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Posted 01 February 2020 - 05:35 PM

That'll be fine, they're a subtropical mushroom. I've fruited them between 70-82F. 75F is the sweet spot.


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Posted 05 February 2020 - 05:44 PM

Ok, first pins today.

 

10/28 - streaked to plates
11/04 - germination - lots of nice discrete colonies of mycelium.
11/06 - T1
11/16 - T2 to grain (milo)
12/19 - spawn
1/19  - case and fruit
2/5 - first two pins (17 days)
 
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Ok ya'll, coach me to the finish line.
 
Do I need to keep the casing wet? Or do I leave it alone? With pans I usually hand water the casing with a syringe. The
evap is a pinning trigger. Not sure about these guys.
 
 
 
 

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 06:25 PM

Semps like high humidity, minimal misting (casing moist/fluffy, never glistening) and fanning 3-4x daily for 2-3 minutes. The pins are more tolerant of misting than cubes, but not much more. The caps like to be moist as they mature. With all that said they are very forgiving.

Edited by DonShadow, 05 February 2020 - 06:29 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 07:38 PM

Thanks, Don. Sounds like my conditions are where they need to be.


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Posted 09 February 2020 - 09:19 PM

First pin!

 

This took 1.5 months after casing, which I blame on my low room temperature.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 04:39 PM

Got three cakes coming along now, ever so slowly.

 

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I am using this fancy terrarium design:

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 04:27 PM

Nice work! Great to know they’ll fruit in an enclosed chamber like that.

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 04:34 PM

Thanks, DS! I've been pleasantly surprised by how well containers like this work for small grows for the species I've tried so far. There are four 1/4" holes covered in medical tape, and that seems to allow enough air movement.

 

Have you noticed that these like a lot of light? I don't know this species well yet, but I've had the feeling that these and the sect. mexicana species grow better with fairly bright light. Curious what you think.






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