Communal Psilocybe semperviva/hoogshagenii grow?
Posted 26 February 2021 - 12:21 AM
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Posted 26 February 2021 - 11:04 PM
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Posted 27 February 2021 - 06:59 PM
I have four very heavy bags of Semperviva colonized/colonizing. My intention was to crumble them around 50% in the bags and form them to trays. These roasting pans with lids seem like a winner in that front. I have had very bad luck with breaking down Semperviva once it is colonized to put it in trays, but I know I’ll get better yields in trays vs bags. I missed the boat for 50% though one bag was lagging a bit so I crumbled it. It had the very distinct odor of anaerobic bacteria and mycelium which I partly expected because I made the subs a bit wet on purpose.
At this point I’m afraid the bag I just broke down wouldn’t have recovered even if it was a different species so I’ll have no clue if this was a worthwhile experiment or if it could have gotten an actual harvest. I’m now considering breaking down a completely/almost completely colonized bag to test also. If I fruit from the bags, I already know I’m wasting substrate.
Any thoughts or advice is appreciated.
Edited by Jrotten, 27 February 2021 - 07:00 PM.
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Posted 27 February 2021 - 08:02 PM
I like the idea actually-- I have considered doing exactly the same thing to my existing bag after this second flush is finished (which should be within the next few days) -- I figure I have enough going on via LC and clone plates with this species, so I thought that it might be fun to break the block up and tray it in the same FC that the bag's in. I'll be growing a lot more of these anyway-- so what if it doesn't work perfectly.
I know bags do well, but I really think that if you want canopies you're going to find them in thin broad tray surfaces like every other species seems to do best in overall...
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Posted 27 February 2021 - 09:15 PM
I’m hesitant to break up a fully colonized bag now.
Edited by Jrotten, 28 February 2021 - 03:39 AM.
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Posted 27 February 2021 - 09:30 PM
That's good to know-- maybe I should wait until my next sub to tray it out...
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 03:51 AM
It’s a crapshoot. These bags are intentionally wet. Colonized at 65-70 temps. It’s a tough species, but it seems to have some quirks probably related to that. ORRRR I’m just really pretty bad at all this and making shit up. Who knows?!
Edited by Jrotten, 28 February 2021 - 03:52 AM.
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 10:49 AM
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 01:57 PM
Hi y'all, just got off probation(I think?), woohoo!
Thought I'd share a couple grows of this species I got goin on. At first I wasn't too fond of them but lately I'm starting to catch feelings for these mofos
These two trays are on their second flush, definitely better than the first as I am still learning what they like:
Tray on the left is 1 quart of coffee/coir to 1 quart of grain and the right is just cased grain, both fruiting in a monotub.
Looking forward to learning from yall!
Edited by Ambrose, 28 February 2021 - 02:08 PM.
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 02:06 PM
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 02:31 PM
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 05:28 PM
Hey Ambrose! Good to see you over here. Love your grows.
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 05:36 PM
Posted 28 February 2021 - 06:18 PM
It's nice to see some familiar faces here!
Jrotten yeah they're convexa as far as I know(which isn't much.) One thing that I find interesting with these is how varied the fruits can look depending on the conditions.
At first I tried a greenhouse but had trouble dialing it in. They had a much different appearance with curled caps and thicker shorter stems. After moving them into a monotub(cube like conditions,) they look like above, long slender stems and different caps. Like others have noted previously they do not seem to mind being neglected which is nice.
Edited by Ambrose, 28 February 2021 - 06:19 PM.
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 07:46 PM
Posted 28 February 2021 - 08:24 PM
I'd definitely recommend giving a mono or shoebox a shot just to see how it goes(very simple, no tech involved which for me is a bonus.)
Edited by Ambrose, 28 February 2021 - 08:25 PM.
Posted 04 March 2021 - 12:03 AM
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Posted 04 March 2021 - 01:34 AM
hehe, mycotopia new account probation is what I meant!
Been fortunate enough never to have dealt with real probation *knocks on wood*
Glad to hear you're free man, I don't even want to imagine what that would be like.
Take care and stay safe
Posted 04 March 2021 - 11:56 AM
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Posted 05 March 2021 - 05:42 PM
I thought I would report on that tincture again. It has been almost two months since the last test. I am not sure if there is a limit to how much of the active can be extracted or if it is the lack of efficiency of the alcohol as far as extraction of the alkaloids. (We all know that water extraction is more efficient for this except decay is rapid).
Anywho, I took another identical-sized dose with the same results as my first test (although it lasted a few hours longer). I guess (as far as my testing is concerned), at month five(ish) there is no notable increase in potency. My next test will be how long the tincture will remain viable when stored correctly. I am going to store it in a cool dry place with a tight seal.
I am still involved in home renovations. I am still not growing anything. My grow room project is on hold due to budget issues. I hope to get back to it soon, I really miss growing!
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