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#21 DonShadow

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Posted 11 November 2019 - 04:02 PM

Psilocybe cyanescens is a much more common/obtainable species and I think that it too would be worthy of experimentation. I've noticed heavy blueing of cyanescens mycelium on agar, so I suspect it is a worthy candidate as well. I see no reason not to experiment with any and all psilocybin species in this way.



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Posted 11 November 2019 - 05:32 PM

Hopefully in time, some of these species will become less hard-to-find, maybe as a result of this tek. I'm working to try and disseminate P. hoogshagenii/semperviva with this in mind, as this species seems to work very well with this tek in mind, it's resilient, easy to fruit and the mushrooms are highly potent and held in great shamanic reverence by indigenous groups in Mexico. Definitely a species worthy of far more attention than it currently receives I think.


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Posted 11 November 2019 - 08:17 PM

This is an interesting project you guys have going, but one thing has been overlooked. If your going to systematically grow out every species you can get and consolidate for months then when you empty the jars, before drying, you should pick through the grain and look for any little sclerotia. Even just 1/4" stones that could easily be overlooked could signal an opportunity for selectively breeding a new stone producer bloodline. I doubt all the sclerotia producers have been found yet.

Something to keep in mind, anyway.


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Posted 14 November 2019 - 01:09 PM

Asura, a month ago over on the shr°°mery, in the Pan. cinctulus explorers thread, you indicated that you might just boil up the myceliated grain along with its numerous pin prick pseudosclerotia for an assay. Did you get around to that?



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Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:09 PM

I had a mild experience. Nothing worth talking about really. I wasn't going to mention it because I didn't

know if it was the little stones or the myc. I threw out my pan cyan test because it died when I

crumbled it, so I am not going to be able to test this until December when the caerulescens is

finished. 

 

My pseudoaztecorum is growing out nicely too. The bag even has a few bluing grains here and there.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:17 AM

Given the very positive attention that Lion's Mane has been receiving lately, it's worth mentioning that this TEK is equally effective for cultivating Lion's Mane mycelium on rice. According to Paul Stamets, the mushroom mycelia is actually more abundant with hericenones and erinacines than the fruitbodies, so one could easily dehydrate inoculated rice and grind it up to add to smoothies etc. I eat it almost every day personally. I just inoculate jars of rice, break up the spawn and cook the fresh rice spawn up with eggs and vegetables for breakfast, or add to soups, smoothies etc. It's easy to make large quantities, it tastes great and it costs only a fraction of the price of mass-produced product.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:03 PM

There seems to be a lot of controversy around the point of mycelium versus fruitbody potency, and I’m having trouble finding a reference to confirm what Paul said in the interview. It seems that the mycelium produces various substances that are not present in the fruitbody, as it has to defend against underground predation. It seems that both the fruitbodies and the mycelia produce unique compounds independent from one another but the varying quantities produced by each is not well established. I attended a lecture by Dr. John Holliday, vice-president of the international society for medicinal mushrooms, and he stated that eating fruitbodies, mycelia and the substrate of most medicinal fungi is recommended for maximum benefit.

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Posted Yesterday, 01:19 PM

I'm interested in your experience eating gourmet mycelium spawn.

How would you describe the flavour of lions mane spawn?

What about others, like shiitake?

Does a protracted consolidation period significantly strengthen or enhance the complexity of it?

 

I have five full plates of shiitake mycelium from a nearly concluded experiment, now I'm imagining the things I could make with shiitake flavoured rice :laugh:


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Posted Yesterday, 07:08 PM

Seeing how easy it is to grow out on rice and the prices Stammet's is charging, I'm sure the science will show up soon, right?

 

I am going to put a bunch of medicinals to rice shortly to start supplementing with it. I get blood work every 6 months

so I am hoping to see something positive there. Maybe it will miraculously shrink my prostate, too  :meditate:

 

Speaking of lion's mane, any of ya'll ever stack it with cubes? I have a friend who is an experienced tripper that stacked

it with 1.5g of APE and he says it blew the doors off. Caught him totally by surprise. Not sure why that would happen

other than those APE were really strong  :biggrin:


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#30 DonShadow

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Posted Yesterday, 08:12 PM

Lion's Mane is one of my favorite mushrooms to eat. It has a mild seafood flavor, almost like crab or lobster. The mycelium tastes similar to the fruitbodies, and compliments the flavor of the rice very well. The longer you incubate it the better it tastes.


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