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#1 TVCasualty

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 01:11 PM

Not my farm, but a farm that I have a history with.

 

Warning for folks with slow internet: Lots of photos included, but posted as thumbnails.

So here’s the deal: A longtime friend finally inherited a family farm she’s been taking care of for years. It’s been in her family since the land was stolen from the Cherokee, and is one of the three places I’ve used as reliably-awesome trip settings while living in the Southeast and was the primary spot where I introduced people to psychedelics for their first times (which I have done quite a bit, using fungi).

But she doesn’t live there these days, and prefers to hang out in the mountains out West. That’s not a viable long-term arrangement so she’s considering selling it. This would be a tragedy as far as I’m concerned, so my main focus is finding someone who wants to put it to work to generate revenue. That way I can keep playing there :wink: (and the usual rednecks intent on clear-cutting it won’t end up with it). All the neighbors covet the hell out of it, but only for cows and logging. Having a farm like this with virtually no flies around at all is pretty nice (and unusual), so the lack of any livestock at all is a major advantage over most other farms in the area (or in general).

 

I’ve tried contacting some hemp growers but not heard much back yet (looking for farmers with knowledge and equipment but no land), though it wouldn’t necessarily have to be hemp (just something more lucrative than hay, and legal!), and I’ve been reaching out to some old Tracker School contacts to see about starting a wilderness/tracking/survival school on it, or even throwing an annual bluegrass festival on it. She’s not really into offering hunting leases. I've seen lots of does, the occasional buck, and flocks of 20+ turkey often there. Plus bobcats, coyotes, and various other unidentifiable critters that make creepy noises at night out in the bushes. But NO FIRE ANTS!! Not yet, anyway.

It also needs a live-in caretaker. There’s a small 2 bedroom 1 bathroom house on it. Bathroom needs work (from either re-seating the toilet on a new wax seal or renovating the whole thing; a full renovation would be preferable), the kitchen is pretty nice and the house is otherwise clean and in decent shape.

The land is composed of ~40 acres of pastures and the rest is kind of steep with hardwoods, a large creek, and several unexplored and very intriguing cave entrances (a friend of mine with TAG -a group of hard-core caving enthusiasts focused on the TN/AL/GA area- has been contacted so hopefully the caves won’t be unexplored for much longer and haven’t been yet because they require being on-rope to enter).

 

Total acreage is 127, though it feels a lot bigger thanks to the cliffs and small valley where the creek is. A couple other old pastures are grown-up in cedars that are too big for bush-hogging but could be reclaimed for some more farmable acreage. The creek is chock full o’ fossils and geodes and the flora and fauna present suggest good water quality. A huge and very scenic (and clean!) lake (Dale Hollow) is less than a mile up the street.

FWIW, the caves might be a big deal because this property is only 62 miles from the entrance of this rather mid-blowing, world-famous cave (and the cave has only been mapped 40 miles in so far so it could be much longer than 62 miles!):

 

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(See the National Geographic article for more details about the cave in Spencer, TAG, and how cavers party, lol; it’s exactly like raft guides; I went to one of their annual bashes a few years ago). https://www.national...9/06/tag-caves/ )

It’s fuckin’ rural. Neighbors are sparse, weird, and mostly unpleasant. If someone doesn’t already know what they’re getting into with this kind of thing then they probably shouldn’t try.


As if I don’t already have too much crap on my overflowing plate to deal with [SIGH…]

 

Ah well, screw it. The shit my friends need help with never seems to accommodate my schedule, so it is what it is and I’d rather delay my life reboot a bit longer than possibly lose the farm, so in my estimation it’s a worthwhile effort. I think my inability to achieve escape-velocity at the moment no matter what I do is the Universe trying to tell me something. Not sure what yet, though. So I might as well do what I can were I’m at.

But if it does have to be sold, I’d like to find the buyer. Asking $5K/acre. It’s a 115 mile drive from the center of Nashville.

So… does anyone need a stunningly gorgeous farm for anything? PM me, lol. Tours will not be given until any such inquiries are proven to be serious.

So here it is...

Up by/around the house:
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The tree standing alone in the pasture was left because it's a persimmon, and the clump of trees is one of the cave entrances (a sinkhole you can hear water flowing in). The road on the left is the County road, not her driveway, and the one going across the screen past the trees is the neighbor's driveway:

 

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It's literally a pastoral scene that you can run around nekkid and tripping your face off in all day and/or night long without concern over neighbors and such (weather permitting):

 

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This is an ideal property for boomerang, model rocket, atl-atl, archery, or other ballistic and/or aerial hobbyists: 

 

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The barn, and a fascinating tree that grew in a spiral that's hard to make out in the photo:

 

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House as seen from the barn:

 

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Garden spot:

 

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The "back" field (behind house):

 

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The "upper" field (off to side of house by barn, and these images sort of stitch together from left to right (starting with the first image) for a panoramic view of it:

 

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Leaving the pastures, the land drops off quick:

 

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All the way down to the creek:

 

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Which you can follow to a big cave with a spring next to it:

 

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The first time I saw this it had 10-foot long icicles hanging off the top and it looked like a giant open mouth with sharp white teeth (but only from an angle that I can't take a good photo from:

 

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Looking back from the entrance:

 

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The entrance quickly funnels down to a small squeeze about 40 feet or so back from the entrance. No one has gone any further and it used to have water flowing from it year-round until they started putting in natural gas wells in the area. So it is probably going to require SCUBA gear o explore:

 

(this probably should be a hard-hat area)

 

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As far as I could get; small gap is real hard to see but it's there:

 

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One of three other sinks that need exploring (you can hear water flowing down in one):

 

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A hole that warm air comes out of in Winter:

 

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Some of the trees are truly impressive, like this beech (of which there are many, and beech nuts are really tasty):

 

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Edited by TVCasualty, 05 December 2019 - 02:32 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 01:11 PM

But wait there's more!

 

Because of the relatively mature hardwood forest on it, the fungal diversity is outstanding.

 

These are all specimens observed and photographed on a single walk in mid-Fall that lasted for less than an hour, which I took as a REALLY good omen for the large dose of fungi I was intending to eat later that day:

 

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And this one caught my attention because in person it looked uncannily like a forest spirit from Princess Mononoke, lol:

 

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Sorry about the lousy quality of a lot of those pics, they were taken by a friend along for the trip and I didn't have my phone with me for the walk. He volunteers as a youth basketball coach and while I was finding a zillion species of fungi out in the woods, he somehow found an old (really old) basketball. On the side of a hill just laying in the bushes nowhere near any trails, creeks, roads, houses, or basketball courts. It was freakin' weird, but sometimes even just intending to trip makes things start to get weird and syncronicitous, I've noticed. And if "synchronicitous" was not a real word before then it is now, lol.


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 01:33 PM

Wish I was able to be a part of this.  All I can say is best wishes to preserve this. 


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 04:59 PM

An admirable goal, I hope you achieve it, TV.  


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 06:55 PM

Thanks, and I hope so too.

 

I really hope my last trip there won't turn out to be my last. I could always just go up and hang out by myself, but that's more like work than fun and people are so busy these days that it's gotten very difficult to have schedules coincide with friends to drive up and kick back (or trip hard) with there for a few days. Rural is scenic but it sure ain't convenient.


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 07:14 PM

Do you have the ability/funds/desire to advertise?   Maybe some well placed ads in Nashville might help?



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 07:57 PM

Selling it is the least-desirable option, unless it's to someone I know. So I hope we won't have to get to that point.

 

There's a not-terrible chance that there could be a cave complex under it (check out that NatGeo link about the huge cave found in Spencer, TN; it's so big it may even reach her property 62 miles away), and arrangements are currently being made to get some folks from TAG over to check it out. I'm not sure if finding a big cavern beneath it would be of any financial benefit but it might make it really attractive to a caver to purchase and I can get along with them just fine.

 

But nothing is off the table. There are just a bunch of things I'd like to try first before trying to sell it (which is why I'm posting this here).



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 09:27 PM

I will happily volunteer to be a caretaker but I'm afraid I don't the the equipment or the capitol to invest into making the land turn a profit. Truly beautiful place I will admit. Do you mind disclosing the round about distance from from Asheville to get a better bearing of location? I know a guy that has a chunk nearby with the same intent you seem to have, he may be interested if its where I think it is. 


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 11:46 PM

It's basically between Dale Hollow Lake and Monroe, TN. So about 250 miles from Asheville, NC (I assume you meant that one).


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:07 AM

Where is it located and is there a multi-list listing with a price? Has a price been set? How far from nearest major city? I have a small farmette right now but I know some people who would consider growing hemp there if I bought it...

 

I would fill it with hemp, mini-donkeys, mini-goats, a couple sheep, and plenty of hardy little oysters...

 

We should throw a music festival there to generate revenue!! lol



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Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:35 AM

It's not listed. No plans to yet; that's Plan-C and I'm still giving Plan-A and B a try.

 

It's 115 miles from the center of Nashville just outside Monroe, TN.  Asking $5K/acre for 127 acres. Which is high, but that's because she doesn't really want to sell it, she just might end up having to.



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Posted 06 December 2019 - 11:58 AM

If I bought one of the acres, what would that entitle me to?  Are there 126 others who could go that far?


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 01:57 PM

It's not listed. No plans to yet; that's Plan-C and I'm still giving Plan-A and B a try.

 

It's 115 miles from the center of Nashville just outside Monroe, TN.  Asking $5K/acre for 127 acres. Which is high, but that's because she doesn't really want to sell it, she just might end up having to.

I don't know that market at all really but that does seem really high.. Typically, the only time you are buying that much acreage with a per acre price that high its because there are sewers, city water, and favorable zoning for it to be subdivided for homes.



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Posted 06 December 2019 - 03:22 PM

If I bought one of the acres, what would that entitle me to?  Are there 126 others who could go that far?

 

Now there's a fascinating idea. :thumbs_up:

 

The Mycotopia Fungal Research and Educational Demonstration Farm? I'd be into that. WAY into that.

 

 

Buying shares of a non-profit that owned it would probably be the way to go rather than buying individual acres since the people stuck with the vertical acres will probably want a discount and access easements will be a PITA, lol.

 

A research and education farm is a rather grand vision, but then those are the only kind of visions I'm interested in so I'll run that past the owner and a friend who is a financial advisor/wealth management guru who is brilliant at all things business and through his clients has access to significant capital. I'm gonna change the world or go down in flames in utter obscurity trying!

 

I've built strawbale houses and conventional houses (not just bathroom renovations, lol), so I could call up some conventional and alternative-method construction folks to set up wall-raising seminars which also get the tiny houses and other facilities built (while teaching others how to build with straw, sort of like a neo-Amish community approach to construction that got the current strawbale construction community started) and I can put together a crew of pros capable of building anything from clearing the ground to moving in furniture, and they include certified electricians and plumbers though it may be far enough in the country to not be subject to Code yet.

 

There is enough space to turn the place into a major "Eco-Village Training Center" that covers many bases, and that would be an awesome project that does not have to wait for psilocybes to be legalized. We'll just hold off on those until it's cool since this would be a very high-profile project.

 

And there's no State income tax in TN. Every little bit helps.

 

It's a great suggestion, and I'm now hoping that that's what ultimately happens with it.

 

Looks like I have more homework to do.


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 03:35 PM

 

It's not listed. No plans to yet; that's Plan-C and I'm still giving Plan-A and B a try.

 

It's 115 miles from the center of Nashville just outside Monroe, TN.  Asking $5K/acre for 127 acres. Which is high, but that's because she doesn't really want to sell it, she just might end up having to.

I don't know that market at all really but that does seem really high.. Typically, the only time you are buying that much acreage with a per acre price that high its because there are sewers, city water, and favorable zoning for it to be subdivided for homes.

 

 

It is high, but not too terribly overpriced. The market is changing very fast there as the County it's in is between Nashville and Knoxville and those metro areas are expanding outward like all cities are, so more people are moving further out to get away from it all. Prices are definitely on the rise thanks to that and will catch up to her asking price in a few years, tops.

 

It does have "city" water, but it sucks and smells like an over-chlorinated swimming pool. I think the nearest sewer line to hook up to is 12-15 miles away, lol.

 

In this case the reason it's priced high at the moment is she doesn't really want to sell it but if someone's willing to pay that much for it then she'd take it.



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Posted 06 December 2019 - 04:37 PM

My family who lived in Knoxville has moved... My family who lived in Nashville have moved... There is little reasons why I should buy a farm in Tennessee except that the farm appears to have some super sweet features and also because the gas well pad recently constructed on my farm has destroyed the natural amphitheater where I had hoped to throw a bluegrass festival... I need a new venue! lol...


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Posted 08 December 2019 - 05:16 AM

It looks beautiful ! I’ve only been to visit Tennessee twice but it’s always a great time and I have met some really nice locals :)

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 10:11 AM

It's in the heart of O Brother, Where Are Thou? country (I roll up to people's houses and find them pickin' or fiddlin' on their porches occasionally, which is great), so some of the characters you'll meet are some of the nicest and most interesting folks you'll meet anywhere and some are ...not.

 

While the neighbors around this particular farm are sparse, weird, and unpleasant it's still usually an improvement over city life where the neighbors are often densely-packed all around us, weird, and unpleasant.


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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:56 PM

This sounds like an amzing property, so much to explore.


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Posted 08 December 2019 - 07:02 PM

What an amazing opportunity. I wish life had gone better for me so that I could jump on an amazing opportunity like this. What an amazing thing for her to turn her back on!


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