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#1 akoutdoors

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 12:22 AM

SO I can take some colonised WBS jars and combine them with some pasturised Coir to fruit the WBS out?
Do i need to use vermiculite to hold the moisture and case the mix?
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Posted 17 September 2006 - 12:48 AM

You sure can.

Coir is very nutritious and works well as a substrate.

You probably don't need to add verm, but it wouldn't hurt either.

http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=14027

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 01:54 AM

I'd case it, never hurts..........

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 09:01 AM

A little bit of poo would help that mix go bigger, but it isn't required.

#5 akoutdoors

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 02:45 PM

Go bigger?
Like larger/more fruits or better colonising?
I am trying to stay away from Poo cause the wife hates the BRF and verm being in the house. So poo or anything to that affect will be a problem.
Would worm castings work in place of Poo?
Wait just followed a link and found it, so a 50/50 mix of worm castings and coir will work for bulk?
The worm castings need pasturised dont they...... Mebe it can be done tho.
I am using an old upright freezer to fruit Cakes in I keep the bottom part @ 99-100% RH
Will I need to run the RH lower in the top section if I wanna fruit out Coir/Worm castings Bricks?

#6 BuckarooBanzai

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 03:19 PM

Yeah, bigger as in more mycelia and, as a result, more fruits overall.

Worm castings are my FOAF’s very favorite kind of poo, in fact. Virtually no smell, even when you are PCing them.
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50/50 verm/coir works GREAT as a bulk substrate. 40/40/20 castings/coir/verm also works quite well as a bulk substrate. Just work carefully to get the moisture right. Castings turn to mud if you add too much water. Use hot water and add it slowly with lots of stirring. Too moist is better than to wet.
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Worm castings can actually be fully sterilized and work quite nicely. Same with coir.
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Bricks/nuggets can be fruited in a 99%-100% humidity environment like they were big square cakes. Like cakes, they work a little better if you double end case them. You can also fruit bulk nuggets inside a spawn bag (invitro) and get very nice results.
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Check this:
http://mycotopia.net...ead.php?t=11576

#7 akoutdoors

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 12:32 AM

so which is better? using verm or not using it?

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 09:38 AM

In my opinion, the verm mix is better. It lightens/fluffs the substrate and adds a little water reservoir capacity.

Others think the verm is totally useless, so it is really up to you.




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