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[newmoon]

More brown than red in the center; I'll get a picture in a few days when the current flush gets bigger. Is red a thing with these? The pictures I've seen are pretty similar to other mexicana...

[Celestialexplorer1]

I just saw some here on topia in the grow logs that were not red but I have seen lots of other grow logs where they were red so I don’t know anymore really. My first time with them can’t say.

My huautla mexicana tray started pinning as well

[DonShadow]

In my experience the strain can show a lot of different phenotypes, due to it still being very wild. I’m pretty sure my print came from one of the first lab grows, from 2012 I think. I’ve had fruits that looked very reddy/orange with heavy sporulation, others that were golden yellow with no spores, and others with dry ruddy brown caps that looked more like Tampanensis and grew to be 9” long. The red color can be related to the hygrophanous feature of the cap, so more misting and higher humidity will likely result in darker colored caps. All that aside though, you’re growing the finest mushroom I’ve had the pleasure of eating. The first few times I ate them I thought I was eating 3g but I later realized the calibration on my scale was off by over 40%, so I ended up eating around 4.25g. At that dose they were unbelievably strong, but still surprisingly gentle and relatively easy to manage.

Edited by DonShadow, 13 October 2020 - 02:00 AM.

[Celestialexplorer1]

I’m glad to here such a prestigious report. Mexicana and panaeolus are my favorite psilocybe so far but I am beginning to grow a lot of other exotics. IME with ATL I’ve seen that more light and FAE equals bigger more printable caps so on these I have a piece of a strip light 6500k on the lid of the tub, a blue bulb grow light and a 6500k grow double tube light 2ft. First time I’ve used the blue light but I’ve definitely noticed faster primordia formation this time but it could just be the species both the huautla and chicon nindo started pinning at day 4 in the FC and both spawn runs were for 8 days the nindo went in first. nindo mex
huautla de jimenez mex

[Jrotten]

Of the mexicana section, which are the fastest spore to fruit if things go well?  I've got a lot of prints thanks to you folks and a couple of other things and I'm trying to sort out what I can reasonably achieve and how to alot my space. I think I want to keep one FC basically for Semperviva and mexican species, and the other for pans, but I have limited space in the FC that is sort of "always high humidity and always fresh air" that the Semperviva have basically grown themselves in.

[DonShadow]

In my experience tampanensis is very fast and forgiving, approximately the same timeline as cubes. It's the easiest and most abundant fruiter of the mexicanae species I've grown. Also a very good one to eat---clean, beautiful, gentle. 3g is about as potent as 5-6g cubensis.

[Celestialexplorer1]

This chicon nindo has been very good to me so far with 10 days on the grain quart another 8 for spawn run 1:2 and 4 to pin. But ATL (tamp) is always about the same.

[Celestialexplorer1]

I’m thinking I’m gonna have to take the nindo back to the drawing board. I’m used to getting much bigger caps although I also usually try to narrow down to the best results on agar with this one I wanted to see how a multispore culture would do. I have a lot of light and a lot of FAE seeing as my tub cycle air every ten minutes and I have two 6500k lights and a blue grow light on it.
With Atl and tamps I always got decent caps.


A lot of the fruits are still young but the ones that have opened all the way look mature and there still so tiny.

[coAsTal]

I think those look amazing-- and if it's anything like some other grows I've seen, you'll get some larger cap sizes as they flush moves through time-- I wouldn't worry if I were you --  great work!!

[Celestialexplorer1]

I also have a huautla de jimenez tray pinning in there too and I’m preeeeetttty sure that one is the grow captain future did about 8 years ago with the bell shaped caps so that one should be pretty interesting .

[Celestialexplorer1]

well I think this is is big as the caps are going to get this time around? This was a vastly multispore culture so maybe I’ll have better luck with an isolate. If I leave the caps any longer than this they start to fold up and wither so I’m picking the mature ones before they start to do that.
Huautla plate pins

Edited by Celestialexplorer1, 16 October 2020 - 07:47 AM.

[DonShadow]

Those are looking great to me, but I have to say that the post you made on the 14th which shows Tampanensis and ATL looks more like the Chicon Nindo strain and the bag you just posted looks like Tampanensis to me. Is there a chance that your cultures got mixed up somehow?

[Celestialexplorer1]

On the 15th the very first picture is tamp, the second is gallindoi and the third growing in the bag is supposed to be chicon nindo I hope. I can say that it doesn’t look like any tamp that I’ve grown just because the caps are pale to grey and none are really red at all. I know that at the time I did the nindo I didn’t have tamp cuvltures around to mix up. That first picture from the 15th of the supposed tamp is actually a mushroom I found in my garden where I had planted some cambo spawn And I printed it and grew it out and when I spawned it I knew it was mexicana. But I plant everything so there’s really no telling but from the cap I just assumed tamp because I had only planted tamp, atl, and Jalisco at the time.

[Celestialexplorer1]

The chicon nindo spores I got was a light swab and there wasnt much germination on the plate so I didn’t have many colonies to transfer. I really need to find some proper nindo spores if these aren’t nindo.

Edited by Celestialexplorer1, 17 October 2020 - 12:16 PM.

[DonShadow]

On the 15th the very first picture is tamp, the second is gallindoi and the third growing in the bag is supposed to be chicon nindo I hope. I can say that it doesn’t look like any tamp that I’ve grown just because the caps are pale to grey and none are really red at all. I know that at the time I did the nindo I didn’t have tamp cuvltures around to mix up. That first picture from the 15th of the supposed tamp is actually a mushroom I found in my garden where I had planted some cambo spawn And I printed it and grew it out and when I spawned it I knew it was mexicana. But I plant everything so there’s really no telling but from the cap I just assumed tamp because I had only planted tamp, atl, and Jalisco at the time.

The chicon nindo strain can definitely be quite varied in appearance, but this picture doesn't look at all like tampanensis to me. It looks very much like the chicon nindo specimens I've grown.

 

 

This one in the bag on the other hand, looks exactly like pretty much all of the tampanensis or galindoi/ATL fruits I've seen. I wonder if your tampanensis (or galindoi/ATL) spores were mislabeled as chicon nindo and vice-versa?

 

Regardless, I'd be happy to send you a true chicon nindo print, feel free to PM me if you want one.

 

[newmoon]

Not an impressive grow, but here's an example of how easy growing Ps. mexicana can be - PF tek, multispore, cased in the jars with coir/vermiculite/CaCO3. The lid of the tub has some holes covered in 3M transpore medical tape. I mist enough to keep the casings moist (once every couple/few days), with no additional misting or fanning required. Temperature is 75-77F.

 

The cakes aren't in sync, so some are pinning as others are maturing...

 

[Celestialexplorer1]

What kind of mexicana are those. I love those light colored caps. Don’t see those very often. My huautla was a success.
Printed, dried and tested... thurgood

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[DonShadow]

Beautiful work peeps :)
They are the best of the best, at least of all the species I’ve sampled thus far.

[newmoon]

The ones on the left are supposedly "chicon nindo" and the ones on the right "huatla de jimenez", but I'm not certain if that's true. I'd had spore syringes sitting in the fridge for too long, so I thought I should do a little grow to get some spore prints for the future...

 

Thinking I might start a tub of these some time soon; they're very charming mushrooms.

Edited by newmoon, 08 November 2020 - 08:17 PM.

[Celestialexplorer1]

here’s another huautla shoebox. Definitely bacterial but I believe I still may be able to push out this flush before chucking it.