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#21 MsBehavin420

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 06:19 AM

This is what happens when you eat animals that you are not supposed to be eating. Dog.. Bat. Fucking bat is what im seeing was the cause..
i mean can we just quarantine China and let them die.. Theyre responsible for the extinction of the rhino.
https://www.savether...elephant-ivory/

Yulin dog meat festival... Caution ⚠ :graphic photography.
https://www.independ...y-a8410426.html
But this is why you smell wet dog when your leather made in China gets wet.... Its bc it is dog from thia festival.

They own a stake in our pork farms. Bc their land is so full of pollution that they cant raise swine.. Cant raise swine, aye? Must be a superfund site or something

It's not something unique to China; the last big flu pandemic, "swine flu", emerged in large part from the North American taste for pork. Animal agriculture/cuisine is a major disease concern in general.

This post came across as xenophobic. The "they eat dogs" thing is a worn out slur at this point, and "can we just quarantine China and let them die" isn't a very nice sentiment...
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An H1N1 virus appears in north-east China and starts circulating in humans. It causes seasonal flu in every subsequent year. No one knows where it came from, though it looks like an H1N1 that circulated in the Soviet Union in 1950 and some suspect it escaped in a laboratory accident.

https://www.newscien...y-of-swine-flu/

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 06:24 AM

This is what happens when you eat animals that you are not supposed to be eating. Dog.. Bat. Fucking bat is what im seeing was the cause..
i mean can we just quarantine China and let them die.. Theyre responsible for the extinction of the rhino.
https://www.savether...elephant-ivory/
Yulin dog meat festival... Caution ⚠ :graphic photography.
https://www.independ...y-a8410426.html
But this is why you smell wet dog when your leather made in China gets wet.... Its bc it is dog from thia festival.
They own a stake in our pork farms. Bc their land is so full of pollution that they cant raise swine.. Cant raise swine, aye? Must be a superfund site or something

Is there an, "Are you sure you want to post this incoherent bable?" button that I've been missing all these years?

Superfund, swine flu, Bill Gates, dog leather and "taking over our" pork farms...got it.
incoherent? Im sorry am I not speaking clearly..... The country of China is responsible for the elimination of the rhino, they literally eat dog and animals that are making them and the rest of the world ill and they use their skins to make shoes from..

im xenophobic for pernting out these are disgusting people who are literally ruining the planet on which We ALL reside on....but here's that incoherent babble.. Maybe its just your ears....

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 06:26 AM

Go do your research. Im an animal advocate. Theyre disgusting and deserve what theyre infecting the world with. Yet again..

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 06:28 AM

Coronavirus Patent # 10,130,701

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 06:38 AM

https://www.peta.org...ather-industry/

http://www.esdaw.eu/...ry---china.html

https://www.theguard...ress-trade-peta


How about instead of name calling, you can read some articles on how horrible china is to animals... I dispise Peta but the info is on point.
How about you get as upset over your dog shoes as you do when im talking about the atrocious behaviors of another country towards people's pets that are stolen from their homes and skinned and burned alive. For a hard dick.

They have to dye horns of rhino, so they don't get murdered again to have a non Flacid penis..

Sorry. I hopw every single one of them die just as horrible deaths as they CAUSE other to experience...
i hope we never go to war with them..... They're evil. Their intent is selfish and self centered with nk regard for any life anywhere. Sorry if you dont agree but you may want to go take a looksee around about it and see for yourself.. Theyre awful

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:13 AM

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:22 AM

@Juthro: Sorry, I should have been more clear that I meant the 2009 "swine flu" pandemic. You're of course correct that the "Spanish flu" was also H1N1.


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:48 AM


Superfund, swine flu, Bill Gates, dog leather and "taking over our" pork farms...got it.

 

 

So I can blame the Chinese for this?

 

 

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:52 AM

I was reading some on the misinformation out there about the coronaviris. And I realized that I had heard some possible misinformation from NPR a couple days ago while driving home. The reporter said that they suspected the virus was actually leaked from a bio-lab in wuhan. They followed up saying that they didn’t know this to be true (or have any evidence), but that it made sense to them. Who to believe, who to believe?

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 11:15 AM

 

Bio-engineers have confirmed that trans-species “jumping” and mutation of this virus is pretty much impossible.

 

https://metallicman....tical-advantage



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 11:48 AM

 
Bio-engineers have confirmed that trans-species “jumping” and mutation of this virus is pretty much impossible.

 
https://metallicman....tical-advantage
I’m not saying that the virus WASN’T leaked out of a lab, or whatever other source (personally I think it’s more feasible). But speculations being reported as news just leads to more problems in trying to get to the “real” facts (assuming we could actually do that.) why have an op-ed if you’re just going to insert opinions into the actual editorial piece? (Speaking to the major news networks I guess)

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 12:08 PM

 

 

This is what happens when you eat animals that you are not supposed to be eating. Dog.. Bat. Fucking bat is what im seeing was the cause..
i mean can we just quarantine China and let them die.. Theyre responsible for the extinction of the rhino.
https://www.savether...elephant-ivory/
Yulin dog meat festival... Caution ⚠ :graphic photography.
https://www.independ...y-a8410426.html
But this is why you smell wet dog when your leather made in China gets wet.... Its bc it is dog from thia festival.
They own a stake in our pork farms. Bc their land is so full of pollution that they cant raise swine.. Cant raise swine, aye? Must be a superfund site or something

Is there an, "Are you sure you want to post this incoherent bable?" button that I've been missing all these years?

Superfund, swine flu, Bill Gates, dog leather and "taking over our" pork farms...got it.
incoherent? Im sorry am I not speaking clearly..... The country of China is responsible for the elimination of the rhino, they literally eat dog and animals that are making them and the rest of the world ill and they use their skins to make shoes from..

im xenophobic for pernting out these are disgusting people who are literally ruining the planet on which We ALL reside on....but here's that incoherent babble.. Maybe its just your ears....

 

 

That's quite a broad stroke for a country that contains several hundred spoken languages and at least 56 different ethnic groups, some (or many) of whom don't really want to be part of China at all.

 

So are the folks eating dogs and making dog shoes (etc.) among the majority Han Chinese who make up ~90% of the population or are they found in one of the remaining ethnic groups that make up ~10% of the population? That matters because it might not be the case that it's a "Chinese" thing so much as something done by a segment of the Chinese population, much like how Japan is associated with slaughtering whales and dolphins and eating them but it's a practice confined to a minority of the population now and most Japanese are appalled by it, too.

 

 

If the United States were judged as a nation by the actions of some-but-not-all of the people living in it it would not fare as well as many people seem to think, and if we probe deep enough we would end up looking no better than any other country, including China. Lest we forget, we're the ones who invented the modern version of the concentration camp back during the Philippine-American War when they failed to defend themselves from our empire-building after we were "granted" the Philippines from Spain in the Treaty of Paris like it was a baseball card or something.

 

And we don't eat endangered species in the U.S. very often, or make species endangered by consuming weird parts of them, but we definitely do our part to help wipe out the biodiversity we all depend on.

 

Incidentally, eating a dog vs. eating a pig is a matter of preference and culture. And what difference does it make where leather comes from? What did cows ever do to deserve our general lack of concern over their hides becoming shoes and jackets?

 

 

 

It's also interesting that among a disturbing number of people I know, literally every single thing that happens in the world that is in any way bad or disturbing is without fail assumed to be the result of evil people or groups releasing or engineering or manipulating everything behind the scenes. It's gotten to the point where I half-smile and nod a lot but am otherwise at a loss about how to respond since any sources I might cite that contradict their assertions are obviously part of the conspiracy and all the sources they cite are inherently unimpeachable, so to speak.

 

When yesterday's forecast for today was sunny but it ends up being mostly-cloudy today I am told by a friend that he knew the forecast was wrong because he saw all the spraying yesterday (meaning chemtrails in the sky). So even something as seemingly-irrelevant as a partly to mostly-cloudy day has a nefarious cause now. Why? Well to make money selling energy for heating and air conditioning, of course.

 

 

 

Arguing that this pandemic was intentionally created strikes me as similar to arguments about God and the creation of life. That is, while it's possible that a God created life, it's also apparently the case that this Universe is sufficiently complex enough to create life without a God, which makes the need for a God to create life superfluous. Likewise, there is no need to create what nature has proven to be very good creating at without any help from us.


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 12:11 PM

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"Let the games begin!"


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 12:47 PM

Do they all start killing each other after the Opening Ceremonies are completed?

 

Humans are freakin' weird. But they sure do love to play dress-up, bless their hearts.



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 01:17 PM

 

 

Bio-engineers have confirmed that trans-species “jumping” and mutation of this virus is pretty much impossible.

 

https://metallicman....tical-advantage

 

 

 

I don't see much in that article that has any credibility. It absolutely reeks of fake news and rhetorical manipulation to me. Some of it's "sources" establish the opposite of credibility, frankly, and the most disturbing allegations were made with no sources cited at all. And even if some of the wilder claims turn out to be true there has not been enough time to establish that that's the case with enough certainty to claim such yet.

 

For the time being I'm going to stick with the opinions of an expert in the field (who is certified to inspect and manage Biosafety Level-IV labs) who I know personally and whose colleagues are working on this virus at the moment.

 

 

 


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 01:48 PM

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 03:07 PM

 

 

This is what happens when you eat animals that you are not supposed to be eating. Dog.. Bat. Fucking bat is what im seeing was the cause..
i mean can we just quarantine China and let them die.. Theyre responsible for the extinction of the rhino.
https://www.savether...elephant-ivory/
Yulin dog meat festival... Caution ⚠ :graphic photography.
https://www.independ...y-a8410426.html
But this is why you smell wet dog when your leather made in China gets wet.... Its bc it is dog from thia festival.
They own a stake in our pork farms. Bc their land is so full of pollution that they cant raise swine.. Cant raise swine, aye? Must be a superfund site or something

Is there an, "Are you sure you want to post this incoherent bable?" button that I've been missing all these years?

Superfund, swine flu, Bill Gates, dog leather and "taking over our" pork farms...got it.
incoherent? Im sorry am I not speaking clearly..... The country of China is responsible for the elimination of the rhino, they literally eat dog and animals that are making them and the rest of the world ill and they use their skins to make shoes from..

im xenophobic for pernting out these are disgusting people who are literally ruining the planet on which We ALL reside on....but here's that incoherent babble.. Maybe its just your ears....

 

Correct, you are not speaking clearly. Can you share, for instance the research that shows how dog meat is any more dangerous than any other animal meat? TV pretty much pointed out the rest of the flaws in your logic so the only thing I'll add is that, even if what you claim is accurate (and a lot of it is not) how does it have any bearing on the coronavirus? It's completely out of context.

 

Btw, one of your links is to a Korean dog farm which, to be clear, is not in China.


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#38 MsBehavin420

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:06 AM

Superfund, swine flu, Bill Gates, dog leather and "taking over our" pork farms...got it.


So I can blame the Chinese for this?


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Mexico, i believe...

#39 MsBehavin420

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:17 AM

This is what happens when you eat animals that you are not supposed to be eating. Dog.. Bat. Fucking bat is what im seeing was the cause..
i mean can we just quarantine China and let them die.. Theyre responsible for the extinction of the rhino.
https://www.savether...elephant-ivory/
Yulin dog meat festival... Caution ⚠ :graphic photography.
https://www.independ...y-a8410426.html
But this is why you smell wet dog when your leather made in China gets wet.... Its bc it is dog from thia festival.
They own a stake in our pork farms. Bc their land is so full of pollution that they cant raise swine.. Cant raise swine, aye? Must be a superfund site or something

Is there an, "Are you sure you want to post this incoherent bable?" button that I've been missing all these years?

Superfund, swine flu, Bill Gates, dog leather and "taking over our" pork farms...got it.
incoherent? Im sorry am I not speaking clearly..... The country of China is responsible for the elimination of the rhino, they literally eat dog and animals that are making them and the rest of the world ill and they use their skins to make shoes from..

im xenophobic for pernting out these are disgusting people who are literally ruining the planet on which We ALL reside on....but here's that incoherent babble.. Maybe its just your ears....
Correct, you are not speaking clearly. Can you share, for instance the research that shows how dog meat is any more dangerous than any other animal meat? TV pretty much pointed out the rest of the flaws in your logic so the only thing I'll add is that, even if what you claim is accurate (and a lot of it is not) how does it have any bearing on the coronavirus? It's completely out of context.

Btw, one of your links is to a Korean dog farm which, to be clear, is not in China.
yes sir. It absolutely is.. But if you do this thing with your eyes and brain called reading you would have noticed that they're speaking about the 17 dog meat facilities in china near the Olympics site and pan-whatever the name is..
But im curious as to what im incorrect about..... Dog meat eating is absolutely a thing. Theyare literally responsible for the extinction of the rhino.. Please look this shit up.! Im not making things up.. I advocate for animals. I am a vegetarian. I do not believe in stealing people's companion animals to burn them alive and eat them like the evil fuckers are absolutely doing. Nkt only in china, as you see it's alzo Korea anx Vietnam....

Horse meat doesnt make people sick but thats a problem with ikea. No?

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 12:27 PM

Well one thing does seem likely here, and it's that eating dogs was not the cause of the current pandemic.

 

It might be time to start a separate thread about what's okay to eat and make shoes out of vs. not.

 

 

 

One thing to keep in mind as news keeps coming out that seems to be at odds with other news that's already come out is that the press always gets too far ahead of science. Science is a self-correcting process (ideally) and so changing its conclusions over time is a feature, not a bug.

 

The nuts-and-bolts of Virology and Epidemiology are hideously complex and so the general public's ignorance of what's involved is being exploited big-time by the fake-news machine.

 

For example, even the seemingly-simple task of figuring out what to call the Damned Thing isn't simple at all because picking the wrong name risks sparking diplomatic crises by offending entire cultures, can exacerbate the spread of misinformation, can cause misconceptions that result in mass-slaughter (Egypt unnecessarily culled every single pig herd in the country in '09 out of fear of "swine flu," but pigs don't actually give people swine flu), and can even get people killed: https://www.bbc.com/...get-their-names

 

And that's just what's involved in coming up with a name, which is arguably the least important thing about a virus.


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