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#1 coorsmikey

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Posted 13 March 2020 - 12:51 AM

Assuming that food, ammo and toilet paper is already stockpiled. If you were in a situation of isolation for a month with clean water, electricity and internet service, what would be the top 5 additional items that you would consider a must have to last the month without going out or having a delivery? 

 

I will add the serious ideas to make a poll to vote amongst ourselves here.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 08:02 AM

ketamine, and LSD.... jk jk

 

Dog food...


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 09:46 AM

Entertainment - books, mycology projects, hack lab gear builds. - So a junk pile of raw materials to keep busy.

 

Cane sugar, limes, lemons, and fresh ginger for making sodas. 

Cannabis. 

Plenty of butane lighters. 

Rolling papers. 

Guitar strings. 

Seeds to get the food garden started this year. I think it's a good time to get seedlings started for transplant in late April early May. 

 

I went to the grocery store yesterday and was astounded at how wiped-out certain store aisles were looking. You would have thought it was Monday (traditional day for re-stocking). All of the stock personnel were working throughout the store re-stocking shelves. The crowds were astonishing for a Thursday in the middle of the day. I usually pick (deliberately) weird and off-hours to shop so as to avoid standing in line but that strategy back-fired for the first time. I went to two stores. The first one was so crowded that I just circled the parking lot and left. If I hadn't needed pet food, I would have skipped shopping all-together. The second store wasn't much better than the first but necessity being what it is.........

 

When is all this horse-shit going to end?


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 10:01 AM

My wife suggested we go for a few months to an alpine cabin when it gets worse as it already is.

 

So my thoughts are about electricity outage. It's also important to maintain mobility.

I will get myself few gas cans and a few lead acid batteries with separate acid container, you just fill them and they are charged up.

Once they have run empty you install them in the car driving a while until they are charged up again.

 

Also a Raspberry PI 4 for internet access using the mobile phone as a router. It runs on a car battery using a converter.

A Raspberry PI 4 with 4 GB RAM is a low power substitute for a desktop computer. Good to have when you sit around the whole day having nothing to do.

Heating with wood, candle light - romantic if the Raspberry Pi and my cacti and mushroom cultivation are in place.  :laugh:

 

Maintaining an internet connection in case of power outage is not a bad idea anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 10:06 AM

First Aid kit and associated supplies(tylenol,cold medicine,etc)


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 10:22 AM

I have been hoarding [useful] junk for decades.  Got that covered.  I have tools.  We have a greenhouse and gardens.  I have a generator that can run power tools.  We have our own water supply. 

 

The project I have been working on the past few days is making chickenwire enclosures for the strawberry beds to keep the raccoons from getting them this year.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 11:47 AM

Now I finally understand your reference about raccoons in your strawberries. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=y0ygaGGe0Jw


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 02:40 PM

Dumbbells.

 

Spring/summer is coming after coronavirus. You can tell people coronavirus gave you abs.

I've been slacking off on my workouts in the last few months as I've been busy with other things but if I were locked in my house with nothing but mushroom grows, porn, and dumbbells I'd probably find some time for workouts.

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Posted 13 March 2020 - 02:49 PM

300 million people in the US... 1,600 confirmed cases. Under 50 deaths... I am not worried yet... I think with warmer weather, this will die down rather quickly... I am concerned for our older population but i think this is being blown out of proportion... People keep throwing around the term pandemic, but all that means is that it crosses international borders... Depending on the source, the virus kills approximately 2.8-3% of those infected... That number is probably lower due to some people not getting tested despite being infected because their symptoms are mild... In comparison, the Spanish flu epidemic killed approximately 6% of the worlds population... It is only those who are older and have compromised immune systems who have to be concerned... This whole thing has been politicized. The political posturing has lead to mild panic across the country. Making this political is worse for the country and people's state of mind that the virus itself...

 

This is not as bad as many would lead you to believe and more than 97% of the population has nothing to worry about...

 

Go back to the store and return some of that toilet paper you stock piled before it expires prior to being used...


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 03:44 PM

Well if it is all just the political hoax you say it is, then it's a good enough one that the NBA, the NHL, the entire country of Italy, of China, Disneyland, the Cruise Ship industry, ect...., ect.... all decided to take it serious.   Or do you think that they are all in on the fix together?  


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 04:23 PM

Besides water, fire is one of the most needed items to have in a collapse. I have hoarded fire starting flints for just such an emergency. I will be able to barter for just about anything I will need. You will need to disinfect everything, stay warm, cook, ect.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 04:32 PM

ethanol and/or methanol

 

good for disinfecting, making meds, other prepper purposes

 

another good reason to own a still and know how to use and feed it

 

as for the perceived risk of this thing

 

two thoughts

 

1) it's bad, worse than we've been told and most of the advanced countries' governments are aware of it and that it's deadlier than they're admitting - which to date is not indicated

 

2)all these governments have almost zero reasons to be reacting like this and are willing participants in a hoax.  Your friends don't have to lie to you to treat you right. We know from recent events in this country that large parts of the government and all of the media will pile on one of these molecule-thin storylines and hammer on  them as long as they want. They create their own realities and sustain them for as long as they want with more of the same bullshit. If this is the case they're setting us up for something bad, very bad. Bad for liberty, bad for the economy, bad for living in a world where honesty and goodwill are the currency of the land.

 

#2 is the scarier of the two possibilities proposed

 

There are probably other possibilities but I'm a conspiracy nut


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 06:20 PM

A well grounded soul and consistent meditation; everything else is secondary...as long as I am in touch spiritually.  I think it is the reason why I'm still here today.  I've been outside watching spring....found a wild mushroom in the garden and blackberry blooms.  There is so much life out there right now!  It stands in stark contrast to the death culture, for sure.  I am choosing life.  I have an immune disorder and have been through a pandemic that devastated my community--I lost my spouse to this disease and I have defied all odds.  I deal with illness all the time, and trust me--toilet paper and its ensuing madness is the last thing on my list (although I do have it--you get my point, however).  

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Posted 13 March 2020 - 08:34 PM

Irrationally panic buying toilet paper is a luxury reserved for those who have never actually had to face the very real possibility of imminent disease and death.

Like the six year old that is horrified to learn that their parents will die someday, the reality hits them so hard they snap. Most of america is too sheltered.

I think psychedelics can be sort of a training ground, as well. No one thats made a practice of going deep has only ever had laughing clowns and rainbow butterflies. If you want to dose heavy and come back for more you have to learn to face down terror stoically.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 10:10 PM

Irrationally panic buying toilet paper is a luxury reserved for those who have never actually had to face the very real possibility of imminent disease and death.

Like the six year old that is horrified to learn that their parents will die someday, the reality hits them so hard they snap. Most of america is too sheltered.

I think psychedelics can be sort of a training ground, as well. No one thats made a practice of going deep has only ever had laughing clowns and rainbow butterflies. If you want to dose heavy and come back for more you have to learn to face down terror stoically.

 

I've shit myself on mushrooms, and having TP was not going to fix that.

 

Now I finally understand your reference about raccoons in your strawberries. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=y0ygaGGe0Jw


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 10:18 PM

My order for a twenty five pound sack of dry pinto beans was in at the coop when I went today.  I have never seen so many people in Fred Meyer or Costco as I did today, while the coop wasn't crowded at all.   I have enough food to probably make it three weeks, eating fresh fruit every morning, as I do.  If it wasn't for that habit, I could go longer, but would have to work at it.  I have been going once a week for decades. 

 

Let the hunkering down begin!


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 11:37 PM

Top 5 items in addition to the basics.

1. Enough of our prescription medicines to go for a month.(blood pressure, asthma, diabetes, pain)

2. Enough cannabis for edibles and topical's

3. Battery's

4. Entertainment

5. (I'm out of items at 4.....)


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Posted 14 March 2020 - 01:35 AM

It appears that a lot is shutting down. Schools are having students stay home, events are cancelled. Travel restrictions are there in some form or another and will get worse. The empty shelves and long lines at the store are snowballing the panic buying. Its just plain getting to the point I don't want to go out. I am liking the idea of hiding out in the cabin for a bit just to avoid the chaos. Its also seems that in order to do just that I need to first catch this virus or be in close contact to someone that does. Personally I am not to worried about catching it. I never get flu shots and to my recollection have only been infected with anything that I may have considered the flu 3 times in my whole life. I have the feeling that if I do catch this COVID-19 that I will barely notice the symptoms. I honestly would like to end the suspense and put it past me so I can get back to normal life and travel without worry.
But I have to consider those who are close to me. They may or may not feel the way I do and their risk factors may be much worse than mine. I would feel bad if my carelessness causes someone else to be in a serious condition. So one way or another with the current trend of how things are going I see some isolation in the near future. It may be because I'm contagious or in close contact to some who is, and I don't want to be that guy to get everyones sick even though a lot of us will probably catch it one way or another. Possibly everyone is sick and I don't want to be around them. Or just people acting like idiots and the pandemic thing may be just a good excuse to isolate myself and get away with it.
Even if this virus turns out to not be as bad as it appears so far, the reaction of the world is serious. There is not a lot of options left for the time being to get out and anything worth wild. So it seems as if I'm gonna have to wait this out like everyone else. I may as well prepare for that then right? Here are my current Top 5. They are subject to change on the ideas I get from here or anything I can think of too.

I'm with Skye for number one.

  • Medications. also plenty of the necessary solvents to extract my own if I ran out.
  • Sugar. incase I run out of beer and for making homemade disinfectant for myco and store ran out, can go back to #1 for solvent. Good for making sweets as well.
  • Myco Supplies. Catch up on myco chores.
  • More Meds. The ones for mental health over physical which is cover with 1. 2. and 3.
  • Fuel. incase I want to bug out in a hurry and there is none left because of the pandemic panic. Covered in #2 as well

Seeds. Sping is coming and will have plenty of time to focus on gardening

I like most all of Myc's ideas as well 'cept I can't play guitar worth a shit so I won't need strings. First aid stuff is covered with 1, 2, 3. I would consider the dumbbells but I most likely wouldn't use them for more than keeping substrate submerged. However isometrics I may do, After reading post from Alder I would probably try Qi Gong as well. This is all actually kind of sound fun to me. That why they call me crazy I guess.


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Posted 14 March 2020 - 09:20 AM

The reason why I am focusing so much on electricity and mobility is because the world will not become a better place just because we all have a pandemic going on now. It doesn't postpone all the other problems we have. Imagine the pandemic spreading in Africa and masses migrating from there. Some countries there have already a huge plague of locusts. The media just mentions it randomly because it's in the "third world".

 

Funny enough people in Europe are upset about using the word "Africa" or naming a cookie from Bahlsen company "Afrika", but they use the wording "third world" freely, which in my eyes is a discrimination in itself. The western countries are good in closing their eyes when it comes to Ebola or Zika virus but now we have the pandemic in our own countries. Wouldn't that be the beginning of all countries joining together in concerted efforts, since we are one human race? Nope.

 

They close borders and separate from each other, even the European took care only of the under-aged kids from the last flood of migrants from the Syrian war at the turkey/greek border. Greece has to send back the others.

 

Can we do that with a million people coming to our borders?

 

A different political climate has emerged, more tensed, because everybody knows that one country alone cannot take responsibility for the problems we have as a whole.

And we have now problems as a whole, because we have a pandemic going on. Some countries can reject responsibility for global warming with ease. But with a global pandemic it is more difficult to take that away rhetorically.

A single earthquake can now cause a disaster globally because we have a weakened infrastructure.

Things that we could cope with in the past may cause unwanted chain reactions now.

 

Just a thought. I wouldn't post it elsewhere because I'm not into doom and gloom. But I think we have all become too familiar with the stability we enjoyed in the past few decades.


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Posted 14 March 2020 - 12:09 PM

300 million people in the US... 1,600 confirmed cases. Under 50 deaths... I am not worried yet... I think with warmer weather, this will die down rather quickly... I am concerned for our older population but i think this is being blown out of proportion... People keep throwing around the term pandemic, but all that means is that it crosses international borders... Depending on the source, the virus kills approximately 2.8-3% of those infected... That number is probably lower due to some people not getting tested despite being infected because their symptoms are mild... In comparison, the Spanish flu epidemic killed approximately 6% of the worlds population... It is only those who are older and have compromised immune systems who have to be concerned... This whole thing has been politicized. The political posturing has lead to mild panic across the country. Making this political is worse for the country and people's state of mind that the virus itself...

 

This is not as bad as many would lead you to believe and more than 97% of the population has nothing to worry about...

 

Go back to the store and return some of that toilet paper you stock piled before it expires prior to being used...

Well said not to mention that the recovery rate is about 98 percent.






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