Edited by scofos83, 17 March 2020 - 10:46 PM.

Looking for agar transfer advice (timing, contams)?
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Posted 17 March 2020 - 10:45 PM
#2
Posted 18 March 2020 - 11:07 AM
Here's our cope thread (pan cyan):
https://mycotopia.ne...naeolus-thread/
There's a wealth of info there. It's pretty much agreed upon that wispy cope myc is superior to tomentose myc. So your cope Jamaican plates are good.
Here's a great thread too, addressing some of the taxonomy/etymology of copelandia:
https://mycotopia.ne...9-from-florida/
Here's more great threads by one of my beloved mentors, peacefrog:
https://mycotopia.ne...-pans-grow-log/
https://mycotopia.ne...le-and-recipes/
Here are some threads by some motherfucker that you might find interesting:
https://mycotopia.ne...us-of-my-penis/
https://mycotopia.ne...izes-agar-agar/
What was your agar recipe? Also if one is working from syringe to agar, one can use a sterile swab to streak the syringe liquid on the agar surface, FYI.
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 12:07 AM
Here's our cope thread (pan cyan):
https://mycotopia.ne...naeolus-thread/
There's a wealth of info there. It's pretty much agreed upon that wispy cope myc is superior to tomentose myc. So your cope Jamaican plates are good.
Here's a great thread too, addressing some of the taxonomy/etymology of copelandia:
https://mycotopia.ne...9-from-florida/
Here's more great threads by one of my beloved mentors, peacefrog:
https://mycotopia.ne...-pans-grow-log/
https://mycotopia.ne...le-and-recipes/
Here are some threads by some motherfucker that you might find interesting:
https://mycotopia.ne...us-of-my-penis/
https://mycotopia.ne...izes-agar-agar/
What was your agar recipe? Also if one is working from syringe to agar, one can use a sterile swab to streak the syringe liquid on the agar surface, FYI.
I dont have an agar recipe yet, I bought them as I mentioned from here: https://www.etsy.com...le-petri-dishes Ive heard of the "D" in PDA agar however referred to as both Dextrose Agar and Dung Agar. Which is correct?
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 12:12 AM
Dextrose.
PDA and MEA are the most common agar recipes (potato dextrose agar and malt extract agar, respectively).
Edited by CatsAndBats, 20 March 2020 - 12:15 AM.
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 03:04 PM
So I checked again today and decided to pull the dishes that still have no growth. Some of these look really nice, but admittedly im still a noob. From what little I know, the single clean circular dishes are great to keep, the mold one looks to have good growth sector to use, but what about the streak dishes with multiple spots? I think there is clean growth to get out of it but should I bother since I have the other better dishes? On the image of 5 plates, most look thin with the exception of the lower 2 and not in the wispy "good" way. Does my assesment sound somewhat accurate? Also, on the same 5 plate image the lower right PE dish seems to be yellowing slightly. I know that can be a lot of things, so my question is how do you rule out Aspergillus etc if it all can look just like mycelium lol?
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 03:40 PM
I'd toss the moldy one, it's already sporulated, there's a bazillion spores all over that plate that you can't see.
#7
Posted 22 March 2020 - 07:02 PM
I'd toss the moldy one, it's already sporulated, there's a bazillion spores all over that plate that you can't see.
Aww man really? I was hoping I could still pick from that one nice edge. When was the tipping point on that one ya think? Suppose ideally should've done right away, but when the other "edge" colonies popped up what that the big tell-tale sign? IM glad i checked, im about to do them in a few minutes so thanks.
#8
Posted 22 March 2020 - 11:27 PM
I'd toss the moldy one, it's already sporulated, there's a bazillion spores all over that plate that you can't see.
Aww man really? I was hoping I could still pick from that one nice edge. When was the tipping point on that one ya think? Suppose ideally should've done right away, but when the other "edge" colonies popped up what that the big tell-tale sign? IM glad i checked, im about to do them in a few minutes so thanks.
Once you see green or black spores (or any color) on an agar plate, the whole plate is compromised.
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Posted 23 March 2020 - 12:10 AM
I'd toss the moldy one, it's already sporulated, there's a bazillion spores all over that plate that you can't see.
Aww man really? I was hoping I could still pick from that one nice edge. When was the tipping point on that one ya think? Suppose ideally should've done right away, but when the other "edge" colonies popped up what that the big tell-tale sign? IM glad i checked, im about to do them in a few minutes so thanks.
Once you see green or black spores (or any color) on an agar plate, the whole plate is compromised.
Gotcha. So it's more advised to try and transfer it away from other healthy mycelium for isolation purposes, and not so much in my case with more of a shotgun approach to my syringe? (if that made sense lol) I think I just read enough to confuse myself.
#10
Posted 23 March 2020 - 06:53 AM
If you have more spores, id restart myself tho.
#11
Posted 04 April 2020 - 05:10 PM
Checking in, havent been able to update much with all the craziness. Hope the Mycotopia fam is safe and well. I took your advice, and tossed the bad plate. I picked a couple to transfer, some are getting pretty decent I think but Im still struggling with the jamaican pans. I tried a few more plates out of the syringe, this time with a swab but there all slow fat donuts lol. When would it be ideal to move one to LC?
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Posted 11 April 2020 - 06:27 PM
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#13
Posted 15 April 2020 - 06:53 PM
If you can see where I put the red circles on the two plates (row 2,col 2 and row 2, col 3), personally I'd be taking transfers just about the size of those circles, maybe smaller if I can see it, getting the leading edge of those running, nay charging rhizomes....expand something like that and see where it takes you.....
Next time you have a plate or two with something similar I'd say go for it. Obviously you have the idea of what to do with it afterwards. Work on the plates can be quite fruitful later.....
Cats had a, Malabar was it?, that was crazy aggressive and rhizome madness.
Yep it's right here.....
From this thread https://mycotopia.ne...-agar-30/page-8
Well worth the read and study if you haven't been there yet.....I need to go back and see all the goodies I missed there in fact......
Nice bags.....I really like filter patch bags too...
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Edited by Arathu, 15 April 2020 - 06:54 PM.
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Posted 16 April 2020 - 10:01 AM
I saw that pic and recognized it immediately.
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Posted 23 April 2020 - 11:05 PM


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Posted 23 April 2020 - 11:20 PM
So definitely getting what I asked for with learning and dialing new auto setups in lolI had spawned to bulk sub of manure/straw, verm, and some gypsum. Cased with peat/verm/calcium carbonate. Misted and placed back in original closet. Due to drastic temp flux I made the decision (with girls approval haha) to move into the closet in the other room. After wiping down and cleaning I set it up the same which was 2 tubs stacked on each side with the humidifier between them, along with a heating pad both hooked to Inkbird controller. Everything seemed good once set up, however got case of noob paranoia coupled with the threads reminding over and over you cant just crank it up and walk away so I kept checking every hour or so and went to bed. I woke up in the am to inkbird alarm on humidity because excessive condensation had pooled in the tube leading to the control tub and blocked the humidity and air flow. Im guessing lack of FAE, high humidity/temp, and/or a rushed setup introduced me to cobweb mold. And wow it IS impressively fast. The one tub went from small dime size to 3/4 of casing surface overnight and a second has small circular splotch. I treated with Hydrogen peroxide spray and seemed to clear it up. I fixed the condensation issue by using a space heater in the actual room and tweaked the humidity system based on JOC tek idea with central reservoir. I also got a Germ guardian air purifier that had $50 rebate:), UV, and Hepa to clean and add some flow. I first had it up on the top shelf on its side angled to blow downward towards the closet door and a small Vornado personal size fan to add some flow back up.
Ive since scrapped that too and changed setup which is 2 tubs on the right, 1 on left (ultimately woke to the tub totally covered in light gray cobweb so I tossed it), I added a new tub I got on the floor on top of my seedling mat to bump up ambient humidity, put the purifier on top still blowing a door (around 150cfm may be much), I put the heating pad on the shelf with a 4" AC Infinity duct fan on top with few inches of duct hose on the front and back. Essentially pushing air down past tubs to back of purifier, towards door, and back up again. Since making these changes I saw huge difference in temp and rh stability. Ive been able to hold around 75-80 deg @ 90-97% RH with what appears to be great evap rate, possibly too good? Its very humid in there but there is no vapor droplets on walls and sub surface "looks" dry, but not sure. Im nervous to keep humidity on surface high because I dont want that particular tub to succumb to the cobweb again. Today I see some growth on this PE tub in question, but hard to say if its cobweb or mycelium because I do see white poking through in some spots. I was going to try carefully using peroxide again but not sure... any advice? Surprisingly, seems the pans Im trying are doing better that the cubes lol:-/I also checked on the agar work and I think I finally got the plate, seems to have the right characteristics, ya?
I also had an issue when the tubes backed up and when I disconnected them some water must've ran back in down the sides. I believe the one is bacteria and the other other one either is or will be soon. Question is, can I cut that spot out and/or drain/soak up that excess water? I made adjustments so that cant happen again. Will update soon.