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#41 Thacan

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Posted 22 March 2020 - 10:33 PM

I think the entire worldwide virus panic is one huge distraction that is being perpetrated on us in a huge and unprecedented move to consolidate into a the One World Government they have been drooling over for years. For this to happen, some unthinkable things need to occur, starting with stopping the internet and the electric grid for a while. The Revolution Will Not Be Televised has been a foregone conclusion for years.

 

   They have to keep the whackos, gang's and real Patriots from organizing. Without the instant communication grid we have now, any organized movement is dead in the water and much easier for them to stomp on and extinguish. There will be lots of little fires, but they don't care about that and they are prepared and locked and loaded with literally billions of rounds of ammo and guns and manpower to deal with the insurrrections that will certainly occur. With interstate travel restricted, people are not going to rally from much farther than you can throw a rock to come and join your cause or to put it down either.

 

   This is literally going to devolve very quickly. All it will take is the loss of internet and power, and I have heard one hell of a lot of people already discussing breaks in the power supply. It will start as "rolling blackouts" and the media will still be there saying all is well, just a temporary outage, then one day it will just not come back and all the praying and prepping in the world is going to be useless to combat it at that point.

 

   The Government is already laying the framework of the basic human income by offering us checks which have not materialized yet, but that people are already spending in their minds. Socialism is at the door.

 

   Anyone with deductive reasoning skills is trying hard to keep their sanity right nowl. For me I intend to fiddle while Rome burns, and one of the only things I bothered to stock up on is whiskey and beer and gonna play music and party my ass off until they make me stop...

 

 

You remind me of a hitchhiker that I picked up in 1980.  I was in college and traveling across Kansas, in my VW bug, to visit my girlfriend 100s of miles away.  In my youth I had hitchhiked enough that it was a thing for me to return the favor to others in need, so I picked up this guy and said I would take him anywhere in Kansas City that he need to go, for which he was grateful.  The only thing that I remember from our conversation is that he had this seemingly wild idea that the government wanted to have an identification number for everyone, kinda like the nazis did to the Jews.  As a simple Kansas kid I thought at the time, well that is strangely interesting, but not quite sure why I should be concerned.  For years, I have often thought back on that moment and how he was right in a way.  So while I don’t know about the ‘One World Government’, I know my history with doubting what to me are unfamiliar ideas and appreciate your sharing.  And similar to you I’ve stocked up on Scotch.  So hopefully this community will pardon my silliness in the next two months, assuming I survive.  I promise to try and be kind in what may be a very difficult time.  Take care and enjoy the music.



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Posted 22 March 2020 - 10:44 PM

FWIW, my time to edit passed but, I meant vigilant, not vigilante...at least I think I did.

 

And, @, or towards, TV, or rather just adding an aside...another result of this is gonna be people committing suicide due to isolation like a FOAF of mine did yesterday.

 

My condolences,  August. 



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Posted 22 March 2020 - 10:54 PM

I appreciate it, Juth. It really was a FOAF. I didn't know the person any more than you did. I only know because my friend and I were discussing this strange-ass situation we're all in and all the possible scenarios and what may end up causing the most damage.

I suspect it'll be a long time before we know.

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Posted 22 March 2020 - 11:32 PM

 

We should avoid rushes to judgment on either side of these questions, so as to not be herded into further unrealities for the benefit of agendas which we will be very unlikely to learn of in any official revelation.  Just keep taking in what you can and be ready to not occupy any particular position to the death. 

I agree, in premise. Though, that is a still shot of a bottom feeder in that video he posted.

 

 

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Posted 23 March 2020 - 04:59 AM

Had to go back and read what Juthro was referring to, and sorry for your (or your friends) loss. I suspect a lot of people will choose this time to step off. It really is a tough time we are all going through or starting to go through right now and some people deal with it all better than others. 

 

Thacan, when I was in my thirties I thought people who spouted the conspiracy theiry stuff were the whackos lol, but the older I get and the more I see with my own eyes, the more realistic  that whole rabbit hole gets. Once you start diggin and follow the money, that rabbit hole is deep and wide. 

 

Prayers and love ya'll


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Posted 23 March 2020 - 05:49 PM

Dammit I hate it when I miss the window to edit my typos



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Posted 23 March 2020 - 06:01 PM

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 01:40 PM

Good luck with that, N.Y.

 
De Blasio asks Trump to send military to New York

 

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio called on President Donald Trump to send medically trained soldiers to his city to address escalating shortages amid the coronavirus outbreak.

 

“All military personnel who are medically trained should be sent to places where this crisis is deep, like New York, right now,” de Blasio said Sunday on NBC's “Meet the Press.”

 

“The military is the best logistical organization in the nation. If there are ventilators being produced anywhere in the country, we need to get them to New York. Not weeks from now or months from now, in the next 10 days.“

 

“Why are they at their bases? Why are they not being allowed to serve?“ de Blasio said. “I guarantee you, they're ready to serve. But the president has to give the order.“

More than 8,000 New Yorkers were confirmed to have the virus as of Saturday, exacerbating fears that the city’s medical infrastructure will soon reach its breaking point. De Blasio has said the city could run out of medical supplies in as soon as two weeks.

 

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Sunday the federal government would direct resources to COVID-19 hot spots, including New York.

 

“We were at the task force meeting yesterday, and it was very clear that the issue in New York was right on the front burner,” Fauci said on CBS' “Face the Nation.“ “The resources that are being marshaled are going to be clearly directed to those hot spots that need it most. And clearly that’s California, Washington state, and, obviously, New York is the most hard hit.“

 

De Blasio and other Democrats have called on Trump to compel businesses to manufacture more medical supplies through the Defense Production Act.

 

“The American government is not at full bore right now,” the mayor said. “We've gotten no indication of any factory on 24/7 shifts. We've gotten no shipments. And the U.S. military is at its bases instead of at the frontline.“

 

 

 



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Posted 24 March 2020 - 01:52 PM

I have to ask, has anyone here taken the time to watch the two Dark Journalist videos I posted a couple pages back?  I know they are long, and if you can't watch them both, watch this one:

 

[Direct Link]

 

Stuff is moving behind the scenes that we need to understand.

 

 

They have this "Doomsday Clock" that says we're getting closer to Doomsday.  Well I have this "Fascism Clock" we can look at.  At which point does it completely tilt over into midnight when it's completely Fascist?

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 04:51 PM

Watching that one now, not sure I can sit thru almost three hours of it, but I am right on that same page with you brother. There is something HUGE happening in the world, and it is not about this virus. BTW, I received my Nazi travelling papers today in case I need to come in during our open ended "shut down" at work. I get two weeks paid, but my boss told me in private that it will more than likely be at LEAST 6-8 weeks, and told me to completely empty and unplug my refrigerator at work and to make damn sure I take home all of my "personal Items" that I care about. I had the distinct impression we won't be back for a while, and the day had one hell of a note of finality.

 

EDIT: We are gonna have a quarter of a million cases of Corona! lol That would be awesome if it was Natural Ice! We have been under a state of emergency since Obama was in charge. They have made huge changes behind the scenes, and NONE of this is good. We are on the same game trail in what we are latching on to Alder.

 

Deep State craziness for sure, and most people are just giggling over two weeks off with pay. This is NOT good and it has NOTHING to do with a cold virus. Prayers and positive intent. I think I am nearly through this. I let it run in the background, so might have missed some details, but got most of it and agree with every bit of it. I subscribed to this guy for future boring days when I am stuck at home under unconstitutional quarantine.


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Posted 25 March 2020 - 12:52 PM

For those of us who have had any type of political or environmental activism in our pasts, we may make up the main core of who AG, Barr wants to arrest and hold indefinitely when the emergency demands it.



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Posted 25 March 2020 - 03:35 PM

For those of us who have had any type of political or environmental activism in our pasts, we may make up the main core of who AG, Barr wants to arrest and hold indefinitely when the emergency demands it.

 

I suspect that that insane and traitorous proposal that will get a lot of those who attempt to enforce it killed (and rightly so; the "I was just following orders" defense hasn't been viable for over 70 years) is largely intended for use against the vast number of people who will soon run out of resources and be forced out into the streets to engage in urban hunting and gathering in order to eat.

 

It's also probably time to repeal Godwin's Law in the context of discussions about current political trends.



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Posted 25 March 2020 - 04:28 PM

Looks like it's revealing that Apple had 2 million masks stashed away somewhere: https://www.engadget...healthcare.html

 

Makes me wonder why they decided to start donating them now when the government has been calling for them for weeks. It also makes me wonder why Apple stockpiles masks.


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Posted 28 March 2020 - 02:03 PM

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Posted 28 March 2020 - 03:03 PM

One of the many uncomfortable facts that are being revealed by current events is just how dangerous willful ignorance and empowered stupidity can truly be.

The following article bums me out and pisses me off at the same time, thanks to the unnecessary suffering and death it will cause: https://www.nytimes....acy-target.html

Unfathomably-stupid people are about to learn that rhetoric is not an effective disinfectant. The tragedy is that they’ll be harming others as they do, some of whom won’t actually deserve it.

The recent attacks on Dr. Fauci’s character might be the beginning of the end of the overabundance of fake-news conspiracy trolls that plague the world since unlike past fake news, the kind of nonsense and ignorance being promoted by morons and troll farms like QAnon about the pandemic and the experts working to stop it has a decent chance of actually killing them for real.

Stupidity is already plenty dangerous enough, but *empowered* stupidity is often fatal to the stupid and that’s probably for the best since it’s also a threat to others, many of whom have half a goddamned brain (and use it). So the sooner the trolling bottom-feeders and fake-news sociopaths are removed from the gene pool the better -and safer- the world gets for everyone else.


So on the one had I kind of want them to continue talking shit about the people who are trying to save their sorry asses since the world will arguably be a much better place without them in it. But on the other hand, it means not-stupid people will be harmed as well and that’s arguably criminal behavior.

Today I’m hearing that that unrepentant Hillary-lover Dr. Fauci was instrumental in the creation of AIDS back in the day. If people actually believe that shit then they’re likely to act on that belief, which in this case means ignoring his recommendations. And if they ignore those, many will get exposed and infected. Since most (but certainly not all) who fall for this idiocy are in high-risk groups (old, staggeringly unhealthy, or both) then we might be about to witness the largest self-culling of willful ignorance from the human population in its history.

So it’s not all bad news.

That might sound callous, but when idiots are talking shit that will get others killed (not just themselves) then it’s arguably preferable that the idiots do the dying if fatalities can’t otherwise be avoided.

I think a decent name for it might be “rhetorical triage.”

For example, anyone who believes Dr. Fauci helped invent and release AIDS (and many believe that now), or that this disease is actually the result of 5G networks heating up all the barium and aluminum our polluted bodies are full of (dropped on us from airplanes), or contagious viruses don’t really exist (I’m not making that up, either) gets instantly black-tagged as beyond saving if they get sick since saving them would ultimately be harmful for society.

Since I have good friends who actually believe a lot of this stuff I speak from experience that the condition is likely incurable since no matter what I say or cite I still cannot compete with the credibility of some fucking youtube videos (and I’ve been trying, both because I don’t like to see my friends believing lies that can kill them and because I’m trying to figure out how to attain the sort of credibility that blogs and youtube videos have in their eyes).
 

 

 

And I still had this left from the 2008 meltdown that nearly became a global Great Depression v2.0, aka "the good ol' days."

 

How naive we were...

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Posted 29 March 2020 - 07:01 AM

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Coronavirus: The European Union Unravels

by Soeren Kern


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  • Faced with an existential threat, EU member states, far from joining together to confront the pandemic as a unified bloc, instinctively are returning to pursuing the national interest. After years of criticizing U.S. President Donald J. Trump for pushing an "America First" policy, European leaders are reverting to the very nationalism they have publicly claimed to despise.

  • Ever since the threat posed by coronavirus came into focus, Europeans have displayed precious little of the high-minded multilateral solidarity that for decades has been sold to the rest of the world as a bedrock of European unity. The EU's unique brand of soft power, said to be a model for a post-national world order, has been shown to be an empty fiction.

  • In recent weeks, EU member states have closed their borders, banned exports of critical supplies and withheld humanitarian aid. The European Central Bank, the guarantor of the European single currency, has treated with unparalleled disdain the eurozone's third-largest economy, Italy, in its singular hour of need. The member states worst affected by the pandemic — Italy and Spain — have been left by the other member states to fend for themselves.

  • The European Union, seven decades in the making, is now unravelling in real time — in weeks.

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In recent weeks, EU member states have closed their borders, banned exports of critical supplies and withheld humanitarian aid. Pictured: Trucks are backed up on the road leading to the Austrian-Hungarian border crossing near Nickelsdorf, Austria on March 18, 2020. (Photo by Thomas Kronsteiner/Getty Images)

As the coronavirus pandemic rages through Europe — where more than 250,000 people have now been diagnosed with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) and 15,000 have died — the foundational pillars of the European Union are crumbling one by one.

Faced with an existential threat, EU member states, far from joining together to confront the pandemic as a unified bloc, instinctively are returning to pursuing the national interest. After years of criticizing U.S. President Donald J. Trump for pushing an "America First" policy, European leaders are reverting to the very nationalism they have publicly claimed to despise.

Ever since the threat posed by coronavirus came into focus, Europeans have displayed precious little of the high-minded multilateral solidarity that for decades has been sold to the rest of the world as a bedrock of European unity. The EU's unique brand of soft power, said to be a model for a post-national world order, has been shown to be an empty fiction.

In recent weeks, EU member states have closed their borders, banned exports of critical supplies and withheld humanitarian aid. The European Central Bank, the guarantor of the European single currency, has treated with unparalleled disdain the eurozone's third-largest economy, Italy, in its singular hour of need. The member states worst affected by the pandemic — Italy and Spain — have been left by the other member states to fend for themselves.

The seeds of the European Union were planted in the ashes of the Second World War. In May 1949, Robert Schuman, one of the EU's founding fathers, boldly announced the creation of new world system:

"We are carrying out a great experiment, the fulfillment of the same recurrent dream that for ten centuries has revisited the peoples of Europe: creating between them an organization putting an end to war and guaranteeing an eternal peace."

The European Union, seven decades in the making, is now unravelling in real time — in weeks. After the dust of the coronavirus pandemic settles, the EU's institutions will almost certainly continue to operate as before. Too much political and economic capital has been invested in the European project for European elites to do otherwise. However, the EU's attraction as a post-national model for its own citizens, much less for the rest of the world, will have passed.

Recent examples of the unilateral pursuit of the national interest by European leaders, many of whom publicly espouse globalism but in times of desperation embrace nationalism, include:

  • France. On March 3, France confiscated all protective masks made in the country. "We will distribute them to healthcare professionals and to French people affected by the coronavirus," French President Emmanuel Macron wrote on Twitter. On March 6, the French government forced Valmy SAS, a face mask manufacturer near Lyon, to cancel an order for millions of masks placed by the UK's National Health Service.

  • Germany, March 4. Germany banned the export of medical protective equipment such as safety glasses, respiratory masks, protective coats, protective suits and gloves. On March 7, the Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung reported that German customs authorities were preventing a Swiss truck carrying 240,000 protective masks from returning to Switzerland, which is not a member of the EU. The Swiss government summoned the German ambassador to protest against the export ban. "In these contacts, the German authorities were urged immediately to release the blocked products," a Swiss government spokesperson was quoted as saying. After facing a backlash from other EU member states, Germany on March 19 reversed course and lifted the export ban.

  • Austria, March 10. Austria became the first EU country to close its borders to another EU country. Chancellor Sebastian Kurz announced controls along the border with Italy and a ban on the entry of most travelers from there. "The utmost priority," Kurz said, "is to prevent the spread and thus importing the illness into our society. There is therefore a ban on entry for people from Italy into Austria, with the exception of people who have a doctor's note certifying that they are healthy." The government also announced a ban on all air or rail travel to Italy. Austria's decision threatened to undo the so-called Schengen Area, which entered into effect in 1995 and abolishes the need for passports and other types of control at the mutual borders of 26 European countries.

  • Slovenia, March 11. The government closed some border crossings with Italy and at those remaining open, had started making health checks to combat the spread of the virus.

  • Czech Republic, March 12. Prime Minister Andrej Babiš closed the country's borders with Germany and Austria and also banned the entry of foreigners coming from other risky countries. On March 22, the government said that the border restrictions may last for up to two years.

  • Switzerland, March 13. The Swiss government imposed border controls with other European countries. Switzerland, although not a member of the European Union, is part of the Schengen zone.

  • Italy, March 13. European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde dismissed calls by Italy for financial assistance to help it cope with the pandemic. After her comments rattled financial markets, Lagarde said that the ECB was "fully committed to avoid any fragmentation in a difficult moment for the euro area." Italian President Sergio Mattarella replied that Italy had a right to expect solidarity rather than obstacles from beyond its borders.

  • Denmark, March 14. Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen imposed border controls on all traffic by land, sea and air until at least April 13.

  • Poland, March 15. The government closed the country's borders to everyone except Polish citizens or people with a Polish residence permit.

  • Germany, March 16. Germany, the largest and most powerful country in the European Union, introduced controls on its borders with Austria, Denmark, France, Luxembourg and Switzerland. The move came after Germany registered 1,000 new cases of COVID-19 in just one day.

  • Hungary, March 16. Prime Minister Viktor Orbán halted all passenger traffic into Hungary would be halted and only Hungarian citizens allowed to enter the country.

  • Spain, March 16. Interior Minister Fernando Grande-Marlaska decreed the establishment of controls at all land borders.

  • Serbia, March 16. President Aleksandar Vučić declared a state of emergency due to coronavirus. He condemned the EU for restricting exports of medical equipment and appealed for help from his "friend and brother," Chinese leader Xi Jinping. "European solidarity does not exist," Vučić said. "That was a fairy tale on paper. I have sent a special letter to the only ones who can help, and that is China." Serbia applied to become a member of the EU in 2009. Accession talks began in January 2014.

  • Czech Republic, March 17. Czech authorities seized 110,000 face masks that China had sent to Italy. On March 23, the Czech Republic delivered the confiscated material to Italy. "There are 110,000 masks on board the bus as a gift to Italy, which is supposed to replace the material that was probably a Chinese gift for Italian compatriots," said Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Zuzana Stichova.

  • Germany, March 18. Chancellor Angela Merkel, in a rare televised speech, urged all Germans to obey rules aimed at reducing direct social contact and avoiding as many new infections as possible. "It is serious," she said. "Take it seriously. Since German reunification, actually, since World War Two, there has never been a challenge for our country in which acting in solidarity was so very crucial." Merkel's address to the nation was the first time in nearly 15 years in office that she had spoken to the country other than in her annual New Year's address. She did not mention the European Union or other EU member states.

  • Belgium, March 22. The coronavirus has fueled tensions between Belgium, which is on lockdown, and the Netherlands, which is not. "In the Netherlands, shops are still open and meetings of 100 people are still allowed — these are breeding grounds for the virus," said Marino Keulen, mayor of the Belgian border town Lanaken. Belgian authorities have set up barricades along the border and are ordering cars with Dutch license plates to turn around and return home. Keulen called the border checks a "signal to The Hague" to "quickly scale-up" its response and align with neighboring countries. "The Dutch government is incompetent and ridiculous in its response to the coronavirus crisis," said Leopold Lippens, the mayor of Belgian seacoast town Knokke-Heist. "The Netherlands is doing nothing, so we have to protect ourselves."

  • Spain, March 25. After failing to obtain assistance from the European Union, the Spanish government asked NATO for help in acquiring 1.5 million face masks and 450,000 respirators. NATO lacks this material and is limited to passing the Spanish request on to the remaining 29 allies, many of which are also members of the EU.

  • Poland, March 25. Polish authorities prevented hundreds of thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer from being exported to Norway, which is not a member of the EU. The Norwegian company Norenco manufactures and packages hand sanitizer for the Scandinavian market at a factory it owns in Poland. Norenco's chief executive, Arne Haukland, said that after he applied for an export license, five men arrived at the factory, and demanded to be shown its stock of hand sanitizer. He said the company then received a letter ordering it to sell any hand sanitizer it had produced to the local city authorities in Lubin at a fixed price, under emergency coronavirus laws passed in Poland at the start of March. The seizure will exacerbate the supply problem faced by Norwegian hospitals.

  • France, March 25. President Emmanuel Macron, in an address to the nation at a military hospital in the eastern city of Mulhouse, which has been especially hard hit by the coronavirus, called for national, as opposed to European, unity: "When we engage in war, we engage fully, we mobilize united. I see in our country factors of division, doubts, all those who want to fracture the country when it is necessary to have only one obsession: to be united to fight against the virus. I call for this unity and this commitment."

Meanwhile, in Italy, a nationwide survey published on March 18 found that 88% of Italians believe that the EU is not helping their country. Only 4% thought the opposite while 8% did not have an opinion. More than two-thirds (67%) of Italians said that they believe that being part of the European Union is a disadvantage for their country.

In an article titled, "Coronavirus Threatens European Unity," Bill Wirtz, a political commentator based in Luxembourg, observed:

"As the coronavirus unfolds, Schengen countries are shutting their own borders. Whether or not they do so because they believe that a coordinated European response would be inefficient, or whether they believe that their own voters wouldn't buy it — at this stage it's irrelevant. The mere fact that borders have resurfaced in Europe is a failure for the integrity of the Schengen open borders agreement....

"A coordinated EU response to this crisis does not exist, and as the recommendations fall on deaf ears, Brussels is dealing with a crisis of confidence. There is no union-wide crisis response, coordinated testing or research. Worse than that, the EU institutions are bystanders to a war between countries, which are trying to limit exports of medical supplies in order to keep them for themselves. In times of crisis, the true influence and capacity of the EU has shown, and it is very little.

"As it stands, countries are dealing with a crisis of missing hospital beds, medical equipment, and overall resources. If the virus ever happens to lay lower than it does now, and the conclusion is drawn that the European Union was a powerless bystander in the eye of the storm (which it is), then the Schengen Agreement and open borders in Europe could be dealing with a difficult recovery."

Darren McCaffrey, the political editor of the France-based news channel Euronews, wrote:

"In the past couple of weeks, solidarity has collapsed in the bloc. Countries have started imposing border controls on neighboring EU countries, and even Germany has taken steps to manage the flow of people entering and leaving its territory.

"On Tuesday, a 35-kilometer-long queue formed at the Polish-German border, where hundreds of Europeans — Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians — were stuck in trucks, cars and buses.

"As the EU must take measures to prevent the spread of the disease, many are worrying about the essence of the European Union and its four freedoms [the free movement of goods, services, capital and people].

"What is the EU if its own citizens can't move freely? What is the single market if goods can't cross Europe's borders without hindrance?"

In an article titled, "Nations First: The EU Struggles for Relevance in the Fight against Coronavirus," the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel noted:

"As the pandemic takes hold in Europe, the decades-old union is showing its weaknesses. While the EU managed to survive Brexit and the euro crisis, the corona crisis may yet prove to be an insurmountable challenge.

"Instead of trying to come up with joint solutions, the Continent is becoming balkanized and is reverting to national solutions. Instead of helping each other out, EU countries are hoarding face masks like panicked Europeans are hoarding toilet paper. The early decisions made by some EU member states to refrain from exporting medical equipment to Italy — the EU country that has thus far been hit hardest by the pandemic — has even overshadowed the lack of European solidarity displayed by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán in the refugee crisis.

"Europeans are even divided on the question as to how to combat the virus. Whereas Germany is eager to prevent as many people as possible from encountering the virus and becoming infected, the Netherlands wants to see as many healthy people as possible fight off COVID-19, thus becoming immune. The signal is clear: When things get serious, every member state still looks out for itself first — even 60 years after the founding of the community."

Soeren Kern is a Senior Fellow at the New York-based Gatestone Institute.


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Posted 03 April 2020 - 10:20 PM

Coronavirus In Massachusetts: Baker Announces Creation Of COVID-19 Community Tracing Collaborative

 

BOSTON (CBS) — Massachusetts is stepping up its efforts to trace cases of the coronavirus with a first-in-the-nation tracking initiative. Gov. Charlie Baker announced Friday that a COVID-19 community tracing collaborative between the state and the nonprofit Partners In Health will be up and running by the end of the month.

 

“There is tracing happening now, but this program that we’re talking about today is a much more robust, targeted approach that we have, to be highly effective at slowing the spread of this highly infectious disease,” Baker said in a news conference. “It’s going to be a big part of our ongoing effort to manage and fight our way through COVID-19.”

 

Massachusetts has dramatically boosted COVID-19 testing capacity + output. As that effort continues, its crucial that we sustain our commitment to tracing.

 

Today we joined the terrific team at @PIH to announce a Community Tracing Collaborative to mitigate the spread of COVID-19. pic.twitter.com/N72bsaWpXD

 

— Charlie Baker (@MassGovernor) April 3, 2020

 

Baker said Massachusetts is the only state in the country putting together a tracking program like this. A virtual call center staffed with about 1,000 contact tracers will contact coronavirus patients to learn about their recent activities and make sure they are not spreading the virus.

 

“The call center will get contact information for as many people as possible, that they have come in contact with, and potentially exposed,” Baker said. “People will be contacted and informed, so that they can stay healthy, isolate when appropriate, and prevent further spread.”

 

Baker said Boston-based Partners-In-Health is a “proven player with a global reputation” with a track record of public health interventions that have made a difference in responding to previous epidemics like Ebola. The organization will handle the hiring, training and supervision of the virtual call center.

 

Partners-In-Health Chief Medical Officer Dr. Joia Mukherjee said the goal is to “reach out to people and humanely let them know that they are at risk, and you really help them to isolate themselves.” She said it’s important to reach out to the many people who may be spreading coronavirus while appearing asymptomatic.

 

“We believe that people want to know if they have been in contact with this disease,” she said.

 

Community tracing could help identify where the worst outbreaks are happening, Baker said.

 

“One of the things that we believe will become doable in a reasonable way, once we start ramping this up, is the ability to do a little more predictive modeling about hotspots,” he said.

 

Massachusetts has reported a total of 8,966 coronavirus cases and 154 deaths as of Thursday.

 

 

 



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Good to know Massachusetts can rely on those vaunted "public/private partnerships" we're told are so good for us.

 

Google Releases Huge Trove of Data Tracking User Movements During COVID-19 Crisis

 

Google publicly released a massive new set of data, collected from users’ mobile devices, showing where stay-at-home directives during the coronavirus pandemic are working — and where they’re not.

 

On Friday, Google published what it called an early release of its COVID-19 Community Mobility Reports (available at google.com/covid19/mobility). The data spans 131 countries and regions, including a breakdown for all 50 U.S. states, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico.

 

Google said it is making the anonymized user data available in an effort to help public health officials gain visibility into the COVID-19 pandemic and determine the efficacy of social-distancing measures to slow the spread of the virus.

 

The data tracks user visits over time in six high-level categories: retail and recreation (including movie theaters, theme parks, restaurants and shopping centers); grocery and pharmacy; parks; transit stations; workplaces; and residential.

 

For the U.S. overall from Feb. 16-March 29, the Google data shows a 47% drop in visits to retail and recreation sites, a 38% decline in workplace, and a 12% increase in residential. There are significant regional differences: In New York, which has become the epicenter of the pandemic in the U.S., user data for Manhattan over the same time period shows an 86% plunge for retail and recreation, -57% for workplace and +19% for residential. In Los Angeles County, retail and recreation visits are -51%; workplace is -41%; and residential is +17%.

 

Google emphasized that it is not “at any point” disclosing any personally identifiable information (such as an individual’s location, contacts or movement). The data it is reporting uses a differential privacymethodology based on information gathered from Google users who have turned on the “Location History” setting, which is disabled by default.

 

The internet giant’s COVID-19 reports use aggregated, anonymized data to chart movement trends over time by geography, showing trends over several weeks with the most recent information reflecting the last 48-72 hours. For some local geographies, Google does not have sufficient data to provide a meaningful analysis.

 

In a blog post, Google execs expressed hope the information could help officials improve recommendations for business hours and delivery services, as well as predict demand for public transportation and optimize for social distancing. Google said it also is working with “select epidemiologists” to better forecast the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

Facebook last year launched a similar project, Disease Prevention Maps, which is available to nonprofit organizations and researchers. Announced in May 2019, it uses anonymized Facebook user data to track the movement and connectivity of populations in geographic areas.

 

 


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Posted 05 April 2020 - 10:07 AM

The tech companies are probably struggling with how to put the data they have to beneficial use in addressing the pandemic without also revealing just how much data they really have and how granular it can be.

 

 

It appears that they'd rather let scores more people die than might have otherwise, since it's inconceivable that the data they posses couldn't have been used for tracing people's contacts and interactions to the individual level from the very beginning of the outbreak.

 

But it would have been hard to say what would have been more disconcerting; a growing epidemic threatening to become a pandemic (but wasn't yet at that point) or the realization among the generally-oblivious public that such databases can place (most of) us to within inches of wherever we've been for nearly every millisecond of every day since we got our first smart phone (or even a flip phone, though to a slightly lesser degree). It appears that most people are somehow still largely oblivious to whats been business-as-usual for years, and I'm sure those behind such fuckery prefer to keep it that way.

 

Like with those infernal Ring doorbells, it's bad enough to know they log what they detect like a regular security camera but it gets downright creepy to realize they log every single event that they are capable of detecting down to the millisecond (and then many allow the local PD to peek through them, too). But now that the situation has become an undeniable global disaster with no end in sight we're seeing more being revealed, bit by bit (so to speak), as they release (to the public) the minimum amount of information necessary to be of any help at all.

 

 

If you have kids who share a room and they have smart phones then google (etc.) knows which of your kids sleeps on the top bunk vs. the bottom, or this bed vs. that bed. They know which one of your kids snuck out of the house last night and which friend they met up with, where they met, and for how long. You as their parent probably do not know those things, though you might be able to pay google to find out. Google will also know before you do if your kids are depressed, have an eating disorder, are being bullied, are bullies, etc.. With that level of detail, tracing contacts among individuals in real-time would be among the simplest and most straightforward queries for such databases.

 

We'll probably see more of Big Data's true capabilities being revealed in coming weeks as the public gradually gets less concerned about privacy violations and more concerned about getting sick and dying.

 

 

 

 

And in related news, the following meme is an important reminder and offers some perspective about finding the ideal balance between civil liberties and public health (which is to say that the more jackasses there are in the world, the less freedom we'll be able to collectively handle without getting shitloads of people killed).

 

 

There is a vast difference between freedom and freedumb, though a startling number of people don't seem to realize or accept this.

 

 

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