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#101 FLASHINGROOSTER

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 03:38 PM

 

After my trip to Europe, serving our brothers and sisters in Germany, I became "spoiled" and "snooty" in regards to Bier.......In other words my standards were raised.....

 

Our micro-brews here in the US are now up to the standards of where  my taste has been taken...still I LOVE Hofbrau Dunkel......

 

I'm not showing off any firearms......cause they ain't toys and there's no need to brag about them.....

 

Light Beer is an ABOMINATION.....what is this world coming to????

 

 

 

 

We suffered through decades of  beer monopolies all producing the exact same type of boring ass lager. We had laws where I live that were obviously put into place to squash any small brewers it was ridiculous. Your brewery had to be able to produce something like 200,000 cans a year or so to qualify for a license. Its been heaven this last little bit, albeit harder on the wallet

 

I was ridiculed for a few years a a weirdo who drinks shit beer. Then the rest of the country started to wake up after the allowed local microbreweries to compete in the market.


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 04:00 PM

For all this talk about guns and violence, I have decided to take a break and direct my attention to something else.

 

Right now I'm watching a PBS special about the missions to the moon.

 

I am brought to tears right now watching those men and the demonstrations of their courage and training.  I have immense respect for what they achieved and the risks they took.  It reminds me that though we shall remain primitive for some time yet, we are still reaching for greatness, and to better ourselves.

 

It all reminds me of my dad, who was so old when his daughter came lately on the scene, and left too early.  Though not an astronaut, he was also made of the "right stuff" and the more I learn about his career after the fact, the more amazed I am at him and at human potential.

 

The work of such men inspires me to have faith in our kind and in the future.  It may be a long road to peace, but we cannot forget that it's a world we cannot give up on.  I believe one day we will be leaving most of this nonsense of jealousy, need, scarcity, violence, and hate behind.  One day we will learn the causes of most of our troubles, and resolve the issues which bring out the worst of us and cultivate what is greatest in us all.

 

I pray constantly that god's inspiration and light reaches us.  Even harder for those who seem so far away from it that they are still in darkness.

 

I love you all.  Peace.

 

- Darci.

 

You mean how they faked the moon landing! JK

 

I love this clip.

 

Imagine having to live in a world that want's to believe that you made it all up.

 

When you call the man a coward and a liar right to his face. You get everything you deserved there

 

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 06:45 PM

Well, I think they really did get to the moon.  But NASA also had to have some backup plans and footage to serve the public when/if things went wrong.

 

I think more than one of the astronauts came out later to add that they saw some strange stuff out there.

 

My guess is that the story is more complex and there are more secrets than anyone of us peons really know.

 

But I don't wanna derail this thread.  But I did.  =P


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Posted 06 May 2020 - 08:10 PM

Well, I think they really did get to the moon.  But NASA also had to have some backup plans and footage to serve the public when/if things went wrong.

 

I think more than one of the astronauts came out later to add that they saw some strange stuff out there.

 

My guess is that the story is more complex and there are more secrets than anyone of us peons really know.

 

But I don't wanna derail this thread.  But I did.  =P

The reality is likely that they found "things" that scared the holy shit out of them.....and still do to this day.

 

They answered questions beyond what was expected I'll bet.....smoke and mirrors indeed.

 

I've watched multiple launches of some of our space vehicles from Florida.....it's not bullshit and it wasn't a movie.

 

What they actually do and see...who knows for sure. But they're flying into space and then some brothers and sisters...

 

IMHO

 

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Buzz throws a decent right.....good for him.....


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Posted 07 May 2020 - 08:08 AM

 

Maybe firearm safety should be a mandatory class  in our school systems to decrease the risk of accidental discharges. I'm not suggesting each child actually fire a weapon because many parents are against them period, but taking the time to teach our

 

youngsters firearm safety would be beneficial. Some adults have no clue how to handle a firearm, some don't want one in their house, so how can we expect them to educate. 

 

I can imagine the shit storm this would cause politically, but to me it seems to be common sense. 

Since We are Constitutionally required to maintain a militia - it almost seems that gun safety should be taught right along-side driver's education, government, and health classes (and NOT administered by the "military").

Excellent idea!

Let's start building firing ranges at all schools. Think of the children.

 

 

HA! I'm not for firing ranges at schools. Although nowadays with all the school shootings it my actually be beneficial. We could start them at 5 years old. I think Sacha Cohen had some politician agreeing to it and with donations to political campaigns anything is possible. Gun factories would be ecstatic! 


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Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:45 AM

Given our ability to create real-life video training tools - A firing range need not take up the real-estate of an actual firing range.

Think big.

 

There are lots of classes we needed to have in school.

 

Contract Law

While all of us are expected to negotiate loans - for college, cars, houses - none of us are taught the intricacies of contract law prior to entering into such agreements. If more people recognized the "un-forgiveability" of student loan debt they would realize that this is a boon to the banking industry and not a good idea for The People.

 

Firearms Training

We are required to maintain a well-armed militia by the Constitution - yet we are taught words like "gun violence" and other negatively biased phrases aimed at steering public opinion to be in dis-favor of firearms. But on the other hand there are no "automobile violence" words describing negligent driving practices which result in death - yet driver's education is taught in school by many public school systems.

We also glorify firearms in popular entertainment - like video games, films, and books. If America has such a "love affair" with guns - just like the automobile - perhaps more exposure to training is in order.

 

Civil Disobedience

This was a big part of America's independence. We didn't just sit passively by and let others tell us what to do. The art of public protest and the need to become personally involved in government (for The People by The People) is being lost. But we need to know how to protest and make a difference without burning the whole village down like they did in the 1992 riots in L.A.

Or when something like Occupy Wall Street happens - we won't have the cause co-opted by dozens of separate agendas and will remain on-focus to accomplish a single, unified goal.

 

I've got lots of ideas. Few of them very good - but lots of them nonetheless.


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Posted 08 May 2020 - 12:27 PM

 

Civil Disobedience

 

Is it Love In the Time of Cholera, or is it, Protest In the Time of Lock-Down?



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Posted 08 May 2020 - 02:04 PM

Well, I think they really did get to the moon. 

 

 

There is no Moon! :tinfoil:

 

 


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Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:57 PM

Given our ability to create real-life video training tools - A firing range need not take up the real-estate of an actual firing range.

Think big.

 

There are lots of classes we needed to have in school.

 

Contract Law

While all of us are expected to negotiate loans - for college, cars, houses - none of us are taught the intricacies of contract law prior to entering into such agreements. If more people recognized the "un-forgiveability" of student loan debt they would realize that this is a boon to the banking industry and not a good idea for The People.

 

Firearms Training

We are required to maintain a well-armed militia by the Constitution - yet we are taught words like "gun violence" and other negatively biased phrases aimed at steering public opinion to be in dis-favor of firearms. But on the other hand there are no "automobile violence" words describing negligent driving practices which result in death - yet driver's education is taught in school by many public school systems.

We also glorify firearms in popular entertainment - like video games, films, and books. If America has such a "love affair" with guns - just like the automobile - perhaps more exposure to training is in order.

 

Civil Disobedience

This was a big part of America's independence. We didn't just sit passively by and let others tell us what to do. The art of public protest and the need to become personally involved in government (for The People by The People) is being lost. But we need to know how to protest and make a difference without burning the whole village down like they did in the 1992 riots in L.A.

Or when something like Occupy Wall Street happens - we won't have the cause co-opted by dozens of separate agendas and will remain on-focus to accomplish a single, unified goal.

 

I've got lots of ideas. Few of them very good - but lots of them nonetheless.

 

 

I like these ideas and they should be an option. I don't see our government taking to kindly to it though. Don't want to have poor folk with knowledge that could cause a change to the establishment. 

 

This country has a long way to go before a black community could protest against the white establishment and not expect some blow back. Way to much hate for people of a different race and socioeconomic

 

status no matter the color. Imagine if the protest in the Michigan capital had been carried out by black men with weapons. Men would have died in my opinion. 


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Posted 08 May 2020 - 09:29 PM

That's exactly why I keep quacking.

 

We are the government - not them. They serve Us. Public servants that they volunteered to be.

We've just lost sight of that and by consent and lack of protest - some of them continue to grab more power than they actually wield.

 

In my own state - there is no process by which to adjudicate violations of executive orders (orders given by the governor in an emergency situation without going through the legislative - law making - process). If they jail you for violating these orders (which has been done) you have been imprisoned without due process and the state can be held liable for their actions. And no court or system is currently open to write, propose, and approve such legislation.

Executive orders are merely suggestions. But not many people realize this because they don't understand how the "law" works and were never taught to investigate this information for themselves - even though "ignorance of the law is no excuse". This is not true in every state. Your mileage may vary.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 04:49 AM

That's exactly why I keep quacking.

 

We are the government - not them. They serve Us. Public servants that they volunteered to be.

We've just lost sight of that and by consent and lack of protest - some of them continue to grab more power than they actually wield.

 

In my own state - there is no process by which to adjudicate violations of executive orders (orders given by the governor in an emergency situation without going through the legislative - law making - process). If they jail you for violating these orders (which has been done) you have been imprisoned without due process and the state can be held liable for their actions. And no court or system is currently open to write, propose, and approve such legislation.

Executive orders are merely suggestions. But not many people realize this because they don't understand how the "law" works and were never taught to investigate this information for themselves - even though "ignorance of the law is no excuse". This is not true in every state. Your mileage may vary.

MAN am I glad that there are at least a few people left that remember WE THE PEOPLE are the ultimate authority......WE ARE (supposed to be) the Supreme Power...... thanks for that Myc!

 

I would absolutely train school staff including augmenting staff with security (preferably trained veteran parents) and make them armed and ready for whatever level of response is required.

 

WE THE PEOPLE are complacent and have become far too self centered. We've been bombarded and conditioned, brainwashed, through sophisticated methodologies, (this is not just paranoia).

 

Interestingly enough, and I'm sure with evil intent, this latest crisis attacks the very people in our society that even have a chance of remembering what LIBERTY AND FREEDOM should be.

 

Our collective wisdom is very much stored away in nursing homes, and their "new" Wu-Flu does and unbelievably efficient job of emptying those homes......

 

Don't mind me I'm babbling out loud over coffee and we are WAY off topic here...

   

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Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:14 AM

That's exactly why I keep quacking.

 

We are the government - not them. They serve Us. Public servants that they volunteered to be.

We've just lost sight of that and by consent and lack of protest - some of them continue to grab more power than they actually wield.

 

In my own state - there is no process by which to adjudicate violations of executive orders (orders given by the governor in an emergency situation without going through the legislative - law making - process). If they jail you for violating these orders (which has been done) you have been imprisoned without due process and the state can be held liable for their actions. And no court or system is currently open to write, propose, and approve such legislation.

Executive orders are merely suggestions. But not many people realize this because they don't understand how the "law" works and were never taught to investigate this information for themselves - even though "ignorance of the law is no excuse". This is not true in every state. Your mileage may vary.

 

 

We The People are so divided up it would take a huge incident to bring us all together for one cause. And considering 77,000 people have died recently and continues to grow I can't imagine what could happen to bring Us all together. 


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 10:30 AM

The powers behind thrones have all employed the science of control, using any such huge incidents to enhance their scientific application of more division.  

 

...it's only castles burning...


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 11:00 AM

 

We The People are so divided up it would take a huge incident to bring us all together for one cause. And considering 77,000 people have died recently and continues to grow I can't imagine what could happen to bring Us all together. 

 

This is great thinking and I like it. More please.

 

So on to your comment:

A big event - something huge - where we all had a surplus of free time to think things over and plan a future.........

Hmmmm. How about a pandemic event? Simulated or not. Where pretty much all of the world is sent home to do nothing. Would that event be big enough?

 

We could spend time online planning gardening and neighborhood watch strategies.

 

Or watch Netflix and work our way through the PornHub catalog while checking in on the Kardasians to see what those whores are doing lately. Or we could produce "fake news" videos claiming all kinds of outlandish, un-supported nonsense. Which is pretty much what is happening.

Study the lead-up to WWII Germany and the rise of Hitler. Many of the same social and economic pressures are on the way. Making way for some of the same kind of poor decisions that followed. Scary shit is coming - I fear. After all, the Germans went along with it for a long time - and then it was too late.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 11:43 AM

One divide seems to be between those who might want to think about possibilities and utter such thoughts, and those who would see that as a threat to order.


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Posted 09 May 2020 - 12:17 PM

One divide seems to be between those who might want to think about possibilities and utter such thoughts, and those who would see that as a threat to order.

 

From this perspective it wouldn't be so much bringing everyone together by an event, but bringing those that see a threat to order to a new line of thinking. 



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Posted 11 May 2020 - 08:03 PM

 

 

After my trip to Europe, serving our brothers and sisters in Germany, I became "spoiled" and "snooty" in regards to Bier.......In other words my standards were raised.....

 

Our micro-brews here in the US are now up to the standards of where  my taste has been taken...still I LOVE Hofbrau Dunkel......

 

I'm not showing off any firearms......cause they ain't toys and there's no need to brag about them.....

 

Light Beer is an ABOMINATION.....what is this world coming to????

 

 

 

 

We suffered through decades of  beer monopolies all producing the exact same type of boring ass lager. We had laws where I live that were obviously put into place to squash any small brewers it was ridiculous. Your brewery had to be able to produce something like 200,000 cans a year or so to qualify for a license. Its been heaven this last little bit, albeit harder on the wallet

 

I was ridiculed for a few years a a weirdo who drinks shit beer. Then the rest of the country started to wake up after the allowed local microbreweries to compete in the market.

 

 

 

I think the current lockdown is having an interesting side-effect.  Small businesses are closing all over the place, while monsters like WalMart are permitted to survive, all in the name of keeping people safe.

 

I can't imagine what this country will look like in 5 years, even without any more trouble.


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Posted 12 May 2020 - 05:42 AM

 

 

We The People are so divided up it would take a huge incident to bring us all together for one cause. And considering 77,000 people have died recently and continues to grow I can't imagine what could happen to bring Us all together. 

 

This is great thinking and I like it. More please.

 

We had this with 9/11, and it took mass consciousness of that one image--the towers falling--to produce a degree of unity for a while.  The event itself was highly visible and could not be denied, unlike this one, which is invisible.  And with that came what Alder said:

 

 

The powers behind thrones have all employed the science of control, using any such huge incidents to enhance their scientific application of more division.

 

and we got the PATRIOT ACT.  I don't see any such permanent change with the executive orders, though we are not going "back to normal" ever.  I do think we'll see a gradual return.  I'm concerned about contact tracing, but we had that already.  The difference might be that people are conscious of it and acquiesce, thereby normalizing it.


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Posted 12 May 2020 - 11:54 AM

 

 

 

We The People are so divided up it would take a huge incident to bring us all together for one cause. And considering 77,000 people have died recently and continues to grow I can't imagine what could happen to bring Us all together. 

 

This is great thinking and I like it. More please.

 

We had this with 9/11, and it took mass consciousness of that one image--the towers falling--to produce a degree of unity for a while.  The event itself was highly visible and could not be denied, unlike this one, which is invisible.  And with that came what Alder said:

 

 

The powers behind thrones have all employed the science of control, using any such huge incidents to enhance their scientific application of more division.

 

and we got the PATRIOT ACT.  I don't see any such permanent change with the executive orders, though we are not going "back to normal" ever.  I do think we'll see a gradual return.  I'm concerned about contact tracing, but we had that already.  The difference might be that people are conscious of it and acquiesce, thereby normalizing it.

 

 

After I'd made the comment it brought back a memory from an elderly woman I worked with in a nursing home. She was telling me about her late husband and remembered the joy and relief when he returned home after WW2. Everyone was in the streets celebrating together. 

 

I really don't want to become closer to those I disagree over war. 


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