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#1 Cooper Trouper

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Posted 05 May 2020 - 01:12 AM

Hey guys, seeds arrived today and they look magnificent. I will be starting to germinate hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks as it's a month away from winter here and I want to get a cloning hydroponic tent to raise seedlings with my heat mat and 4 55watt bulbs florescent light panel. Hopefully keeping them in a warm humid environment resistant to temp changes will help them survive the harsh winter climate. You can't choose when inspiration strikes, unfortunate regarding winter. Also this is my first time growing all of these species and comments/advice is welcome, thanks.

Now for the seeds, have a gander if you will.

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Posted 19 May 2020 - 07:25 AM

Excellent Cooper Trouper! Seeds for psychotria, caapi, peganum & phalaris. My favorites are Caapi (hawaiian strain) & Psychotria (hawaiian psychotria, always super potent at 20-30g). Have dreamed the combo of caapi + hawaiian psychotria over 65 times over the years. Good luck with the grows.


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Posted 16 September 2020 - 10:56 PM

Hey all, I decided to wait for spring and spring is here.
I have choose to plant much more than the original seed list including:
Chilli (carolina reaper, Broome chilli, atomic top end, Trinidad scorpion butch T, bhut jolokia)
Calea zacatechichi
Gynostemma pentaphyllum
Argyreia nervosa
Leonutis leonurus
Datura inoxia
Datura metel
Mimosa hostilis jumera
Acacia obtusifolia

So far only the Phalaris aquatica has germinated but have high hopes for the rest.

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Posted 18 September 2020 - 08:20 AM

Glad you are planting all that Cooper Trouper. I have noticed that my favorite "Hawaiian psychotria" is no longer sold by anyone on the net, glad I stocked up on at least 1.5kg over the years, stuff is now super rare, it kicks ass at just 25 to 30g, full super strong trip in combo with Caapi. I have noticed the auction bay no longer allows anyone to sell psychotria, chaliponga, caapi extract, etc. People used to sell excellent quality Hawaiian psychotria over there, now no longer at all. So sad that barks have taken over as they result in crappy trips, the trace maoi's in the barks interacts with the caapi resulting in crappy trips with physical symptoms that suck. Psychotria is safe and no weird physical stuff, pure bliss, so heavenly, but now basically extinct. Chill Hawaiian don't even have it no longer nore does Maya ethnobotanicals. Even that place in Florida no longer has it. There is no such thing as Ayahasca made from barks, real Ayahuasca is Caapi + psychotria or chaliponga only.


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Posted 18 September 2020 - 10:04 AM

Interesting points, tregar, I've never heard of those before. Would you recommend the cultivation of psychotria? I'm planning a 'huasca experience of ACRB-derived DMT freebase with a Syrian rue tea. Any advice you can offer is much appreciated.



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Posted 20 September 2020 - 08:37 PM

Hey guys, thanks for the interest and comments. Really appreciate it.

I know its just a small update but I'm pretty excited to see anything after almost 2 weeks of looking at barren soil.

The aquatica is quite large now.

Broom chilli and atomic top end chilli are germing and 1 leonurus has sprouted.

So looking forward to my spring a summer now.

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#7 Cooper Trouper

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Posted 01 October 2020 - 10:24 PM

Hey guys, how's it going?

I have a pretty exciting update on my journey.

First off the seeds have been largely unimpressive but I do have a few chilli's, lions tail, aquatica and a tabacco germinated and growing.

I didn't want to risk not having the most important plants and some extras for fun, so I bought some live cuttings.

I now have:
5x psychotria viridis var UDV
5x psychotria viridis var shipibo
1x anadenanthera peregrina "yopo"
1x mimosa hostilis var inermis "jumera"
1x brugmansia var tantra
1x brugmansia var fluffy wuffy ruffles
1x bacopa monnieri

As you can see in the pictures, I plan to get some B. caapi as soon as available and some other random herbs, stay tuned :)

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#8 Cooper Trouper

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 10:14 PM

Hey guys, I'm very happy to be posting today. I now have the majority of the plants I wanted to grow this spring/summer.

The last plants I bought transplanted well all except for the yopo which dropped its already half brown only leaf. Going to move them out from full shade to partial shade soon.

Today however I received 8 new plants, yay. They include:

4x B. caapi
1x Psychotria viridis (different source, leaves are slightly different.)
1x Heimia salicifolia
1x Artemis vulgaris
1x Calea zacatechichi

I'm going to repot them soon if I have enough soil mix on hand otherwise it'll have to wait a fortnight.

I plan to get some more cacti and caapi soon enough, would also be interested in chaliponga and salvia in the future.
Very pleased with my plants and now the real fun begins, the growing.

Hope everyone's having a nice day :)

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 10:25 PM

Wow Cooper, you are compiling quite a collection of plants! Are growing them in a greenhouse?

Any special soil mix?

I think I'd like to start growing P. Viridis and B. Caapi someday.

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 10:50 PM

Thanks, I can be quite enthusiastic when I get interested in something.
Before this i just had cacti, catha edulis and ephedra gerardiana. So its nice to branch out a bit.

I have 2 spaces on either side of my caravan. The 2 level hill i plan to plant out with mostly cacti as one day it would be nice to have a nursery. The other side I plan to put up some lattice for the caapi and plant the viridis in rows. The others will likely get pots.

For the soil mix i have been using a 3 part mix that the cacti like. 1 3rd premium compost, 1 3rd cacti potting mix and 1 3rd perlite.
I find this is a well draining and light mix which I think helps the roots compared to a heavy constantly wet mix.

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 11:49 PM

What a great spot, the cacti already look very happy!

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Posted 19 October 2020 - 01:18 AM

Seed update.

I noticed today a seed that germinated and lost its tap root had grown a new root after 2 weeks of inactivity. I now have one Argyreia nervosa seedling!

The rest are making progress and I'm wondering if its time to give them some light fertiliser and move them out into partial sun as they have there first non seed leaves. Any advice is welcome.

Enjoy the pics of lions tail, aquatica, Argyreia nervosa chilli and the little sprouts are tabacco.

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Posted 01 November 2020 - 02:22 PM

xlcor said: 

 "Interesting points, tregar, I've never heard of those before. Would you recommend the cultivation of psychotria? I'm planning a 'huasca experience of ACRB-derived DMT freebase with a Syrian rue tea. Any advice you can offer is much appreciated."

 

There is a long thread at the Ayahuasca forums in the preparation section (you have to be registered there to read the preparation section of forum) entitled "availability of psychotria" which is very good, goes on an on about the lack of good psychotria nowadays. As mentioned before, I stocked up on 1.5kg of hawaiian psychotria years ago, and trying to make it last me several years, as around 25 to 30g is "moderately strong" to "exceptionally strong". Anything above 35g is not recommended as it is too strong, above a level 5 for sure. 

 

Anyhow, have used hawaiian psychotria over 65 times over the past decade with caapi and caapi extracts. Hawaiian psychotria appears to be extinct currently. Ebay does not allow the sell of any dried psychotria anymore, so the two awesome hawaiian psychotria vendors that used to be there are now gone, they don't even allow sell of caapi extracts anymore. You will not find any on-line ethnobotanicals store selling hawaiian psychotria right now either, only have seen equador chacruna, and it is weak, at least at 30g and below, I have not used it above that, so can't comment. 

 

It is currently a sad situation with psychotria or chacruna, glad I stocked up. 


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#14 Cooper Trouper

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Posted 06 November 2020 - 05:27 PM

Hey guys,

A little off topic for this update but I took a few cacti cuttings (luckily only snapped one) to plant out the two level hill. I didn't have the heart to cut down the standing one so I only took cuttings from the ones that had fallen over.

Not to worry there are still plenty of standing ones.

Give it a couple weeks and I'll pot them up and begin rooting them before I plant them out. How exciting, this plan has been a few years in the making.

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Posted 15 November 2020 - 12:19 AM

A little update today.

All the seedlings are growing well, almost time to move them out to the sun and start some 1/10th fertiliser.

The exciting part tho, I have had a few more seeds germinate. I now have more chilli strains and 2 datura metel.

Also the plants I bought are growing well most notably the brugmansia and caapi are growing a lot. Something exciting tho, I mentioned my yopo lost its only leaf and was presumably dead, well I keep watering it and now has some baby leaves growing out the tip.

On a side note my passion fruit(for food variety) is growing too.

Its been the best year for growing yet.

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 12:57 AM

Ok so its been a while and a lot has grown now.

My passion fruit is getting big, my chilli are looking great and my solo tobacco hasn't done much.

On the other side of things my phalaris is really taking off, my M. hostilis is growing lots of new leaves, so is my yopo, cappi's got a bit dried out and lost some leaves but still very much alive and my assorted viridis are most growing with two stars that are getting big and bushy.

Also my assorted smoking herbs are healthy aswell.

Two months left of summer here hoping for a little more growth before autumn. Most of the seedling trays will get their own pots soon.

My biggest psychotria viridis.

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 01:36 PM

I'm fond of the psychotria you are growing there Cooper Trouper, keep up the good work! Nice on the Caapi there too!


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Posted 28 December 2020 - 07:33 PM

What zone is this, sorry if I missed it!



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Posted 28 December 2020 - 10:30 PM

We need more people you like, plant people. Good quality psychotria has become hard to find, that is a fact.



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Posted 29 December 2020 - 11:11 AM

What zone is this, sorry if I missed it!


This is Australia, NSW.

We need more people you like, plant people. Good quality psychotria has become hard to find, that is a fact.


Thanks, I plan to grow many more plants in the years to come.
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