
Sowing wild oats
#1
Posted 06 May 2020 - 05:09 PM
This past week I have steeped oats in a cooler for an hour with the anti microbial soap that has the correct acid in it . Those seem to be colonizing ok but maybe a little slow .
So today we are going to try a 90 minute steep and a 2 hour steep, with soap added. THen let drain for an hour . All the oats were started steeping together but one was taken out thirty minute before the other and jarred up after an hour . They were still moist to the touch when put in the jar .
The oat pictured was pulled after an hour and a half steep and I pinched it bw my fingers to see how hard it still was . Verdict_ still pretty hard .
I tried to upload another one from 2 hours but I’m at my limit. It was still fairly hard .
These will be in the pic at 15# for 90min.
#2
Posted 29 May 2020 - 01:03 PM
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#4
Posted 09 June 2020 - 02:36 PM
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#5
Posted 28 March 2021 - 11:38 AM
I don’t think I was letting them steep long enough And I might have been letting them dry too long .
I’ve got 3.5 qt with rolling boil poured about an inch over top of them with three squirts soap with salicylic acid in it . Going to let them steep for 90 minutes then let them dry on screens for an hour .
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#6
Posted 28 March 2021 - 01:15 PM
They’re spread out on a screen to dry for an hour . It’s windy but humid today so I’ll have to see how dry they are then.
EDIT : one hour later they were still quite wet to the touch . Contemplating putting one of the screens worth of oats into jars and letting the others go for another half hour or more .
Edited by Mycol, 28 March 2021 - 02:09 PM.
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#8
Posted 28 March 2021 - 04:51 PM
I'm curious as to what kind of soap you are using, as well as why you are using soap at all? First I've seen of this soap idea. I have seen mention of putting peroxide in a soak, but peroxide breaks down into oxygen and water.
The typical method I've read about for preparing grain spawn is Soak (overnight) / rinse / simmer (5-10 minutes depending on size of grain) / strain / sterilize (90min @ 15 psi, I personally PC for 120min but my PC only reaches 12psi).
If you could point me to the related reading/threads on the subject I would be interested in reading it.
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#9
Posted 28 March 2021 - 05:27 PM
Maybe I’ll give that way a try thanks Auhron. I gotta dial back into my oats, I used to have a lot of luck with them .
#10
Posted 28 March 2021 - 05:55 PM
I'll dig around a bit see if I can find more info on it. My main concern would be what all the other ingredients in the soap are. How and if they break down during the sterilization process, and possible effects on the health of the mycelium.
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Posted 28 March 2021 - 07:11 PM
#12
Posted 28 March 2021 - 08:24 PM
Soap would probably be used as a surfactant... it helps reduce the surface tension of water or some such so the water is "wetter."
With oats you want the grain to be thoroughly hydrated on the inside and I prefer mine to be completely or nearly completely dry on the outside. Can you smoosh through the oat with your thumbnail?
My oat prep is a thorough rinse and 14 mins in the instant pot.
I PC my oats for 2 hrs @ 15 psi.
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#13
Posted 28 March 2021 - 08:52 PM
Edited by Mycol, 28 March 2021 - 09:20 PM.
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Posted 28 March 2021 - 09:00 PM
#15
Posted 29 March 2021 - 07:26 AM
I'll dig around a bit see if I can find more info on it. My main concern would be what all the other ingredients in the soap are. How and if they break down during the sterilization process, and possible effects on the health of the mycelium.
It was by Reverend Trip
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#17
Posted 02 April 2021 - 09:07 AM
I let mine stay in overnight usually .
#18
Posted 02 April 2021 - 10:34 AM
I wouldn't think it would be that much of a difference. The only thing that would be pushing water into or out of the jar is the pressure differential. If you let the PC depressurize slowly, then there's no pressure differential. If you manually depressurize the pc right after your run and open it to remove your jars, then a little bit of humid air would leave the jars, but probably not much.
Which means I can just start my jars before I go to bed, and shake them in the morning (mine are still over 180 F in the morning). The only reason to open them sooner is if you wanted to do multiple batches in one day. Unless I'm wrong, of course. :)
I'm glad you asked the question.
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#19
Posted 02 April 2021 - 11:32 AM
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#20
Posted 02 April 2021 - 03:45 PM
Drain your grain the best you can... then take an old towel and put the grains in the towel and cover with other half of the towel or another towel.
Move those grains into a thin layer between your towel gently press or move the oats around the towel.
All the water is in the grain none should be on outside