The psyche also seems to play a part. I also interpreted body load wrong. I thought it is body load when the trip sets in very late - up to 2.5 hours for the peak.
But it does not have to do with body load - it's something in my mind.
In my case I'm sure the psyche is fighting the trip onsetting until the ego gives up. Then it comes in - whumm.
The only good thing I see I'm free from the tyranny of the ego - for 4 hours - till it takes over again.
gotta disagree here.
this whole focus on the "ego" is kind of silly, and stems from a "telephone game" of repetition of a few things said by terence mckenna
I have to call it in to question because it is a fairly new idea, and the idea that the ego is a negative thing, is a mutation of what terence said, brought on by the inherent self hate in neo-liberalism. I dont want to get too political but the reality is that socio-politics are a reality of everyday life and have as much to do with psychadelics as any other aspect of human life and culture.
there is a serious self-hate issue among westerners that stems from the insane idea (media pushed) that somehow westerners colonizing other places is the epitome of evil, and that we should be ashamed and hate our ancestors for their conquest, when oddly no other races or groups are shamed in this way for their own conquest.
there is this idiotic belief that europeans should hate themselves and feel guilty, because theyre just a bunch of ego driven, greedy, self centered "colonizers" and "thieves"
funny though.. terence never said this and even made the big bad feelings hurting assertion of natural law, that gender roles matter, and are inherently tied to ego. he repeated several times that ego is essential to the human psyche.
yet somehow, his extremist cultural neo-liberal fanboy group, suffering from extreme self hate issues, have bent this totally sideways and constantly imply that the point of psychadelics is to destroy the ego..
ego = self
no one that doesnt suffer from some form of self hate would consciously seek to destroy their own identity and become a selfless bot.
if you have a "tyranny of the ego" then you have serious issues you need to fix, instead of exacerbating them by further destroying yourself.
I would love to have somebody find me an actual shaman from a preserved culture, confirm that the point of psychadelics is to destroy the self. the only ones I have known would laugh at the idea and point out that it is an illogical concept taught to white people by their television.
I would also love to see any mystic from any culture who left behind writings be shown to support self destruction by way of psychadelics or any other thing.
this idea is mainly what leads to "wooks" that think theyre shamans actually just being self hating drug addicts who also use every other chemical under the sun, besides entheogens.
self hate is always visible, and it should be the thing we attack with entheogens, not something we promote, terence surely didnt.
beyond that, yes it probably is some kind of internal resistance to the experience, but to say that this resistance in the mind = ego is only founded on the idea that the experience is anti-ego, which it is not intended to be.
the experience can show one the falsehoods about ones self.. and make room for the building of truth. but where does the out of context idea that everything false is "ego" come from??? in fact many historical mystics who left behind writings would argue that the ego is the core, and that the falsehoods are what block the true ego, so again if anything it is an ego purifying, ego revealing experience, not an anti-ego experience, and honestly I have never found a source that wasnt a terence fanboy that claimed otherwise.
Edited by BrotherDekatessera, 17 November 2020 - 05:02 PM.