
No prep brown rice for bags
#1
Posted 31 August 2020 - 11:42 AM
So far, my block (only 4lb) looks healthy and not wet at all. I used LC on 8/16 and crumbled on 8/23. We'll see in a few months if it is a success or not.
You might be able to do this in a wide mouth pint or 1/2 pint or other jar size with no shoulders. This stuff will not shake!
Simple mix ratios:
3 tsp of water per 1/4 cup rice
5 oz water per 1lb of rice
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#2
Posted 31 August 2020 - 12:03 PM
Thanks for the write-up! Can’t wait for more updates.
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#3
Posted 31 August 2020 - 12:39 PM
I like a good read about something new that seems practical. You cant convert me away from wbs at this time but maybe in the future I'll give this a try.
Thanks for the info mehn
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#4
Posted 31 August 2020 - 04:37 PM
Thank you FunG! I'm not trying to convert you from WBS, that stuff works and has a nice price! This is mostly for mycelium teks.
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#5
Posted 07 September 2020 - 11:33 AM
I'm also thinking about going back to agar->grain->grain, LC make me nervous for grain teks that have to sit so long.
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#6
Posted 07 September 2020 - 05:48 PM
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#7
Posted 07 September 2020 - 06:08 PM
Awesome! Just did BR jars the other day and was thinking about how I could do no prep for jars. I'll have to try this out if it gives you success.
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Posted 13 September 2020 - 03:31 PM
#9
Posted 19 September 2020 - 01:34 AM
I also have P. Semilanceata (2nd picture) and P. Serbica working on rice agar.
#11
Posted 12 October 2020 - 07:16 PM
Really grateful for your experiments with BR-- I have plans on working with it more in the coming months, and this thread is great brain food.
A question/thought-- have you considered perhaps cold-soaking the rice for a few hours prior to PC, just to soften it up a little and hydrate the outer seed (then probably you'd go back to your earlier liquid ratio to avoid too much liquid overall since the rice would have some modest hydration going in).
I wonder if having slightly hydrated medium would allow more steam to soften a larger portion of rice during PC?
Just thinking aloud-- and thanks again for the documentation of your work!
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#12
Posted 14 October 2020 - 02:55 AM
Brown rice does have some advantages over WBS, Oats and other grains as it has a very low endospore rate. This means that jars of whole grain brown rice can be prepped without a PC and if you want to do bags like this tek, you can use an electric PC like the instapot.
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#13
Posted 14 October 2020 - 11:00 AM
Thank you Moonless, I did not know that about rice, it puts my mind at ease, a little. I'll still PC because I can but that is great info!
Pic, Subaeruginosa finished with a 1lb of rice and 2oz pearled barley, now the wait begins.
Edited by YoshiTrainer, 14 October 2020 - 12:46 PM.
#14
Posted 14 October 2020 - 11:59 AM
No worries about it Yosh! I personally use brown rice for all of my grows because I exclusively use an instant pot to prep my jars and bags. The reason that this is cool is that electric PC like the instant pot only get up to 12-14 PSI and its nice to know that bags can be prepped like this.
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Posted 20 October 2020 - 03:10 PM
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#16
Posted 29 December 2020 - 06:35 PM
In the picture is Ps. Papuana on brown rice, inoculated 12/16, seems to like it!
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#17
Posted 02 January 2021 - 08:24 AM
Try 300ml /lb for a 40% moisture. 455 + 300 x 0.40
It is better to let the water soak up into the grains or rice for at least several hours before cooking the bags to prevent the expansion while the bags are soft which weakens the bags and can cause breakage.
Edited by sandman, 02 January 2021 - 08:25 AM.
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#18
Posted 02 January 2021 - 02:50 PM
Is 40% the ideal moisture level for all grains or just brown rice?
Edited by YoshiTrainer, 02 January 2021 - 02:52 PM.
#19
Posted 02 January 2021 - 03:38 PM
For bags ~40% is a pretty good ratio to start off at. ~35% works best for more stubborn grains like millet.
Just to get the right ratio you need to calculate what percentage of water is in the total weight of the bag. So 1lb grain + 0.5 lb water = 1.5 lb bag with half a lb of water in it = 33.33333% water not 50% water if you get my drift.
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#20
Posted 02 January 2021 - 04:51 PM
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