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[Dabluebonic]

Ok so i met a friend who i had tripped with a few times. A few months ago she showed me what she said was dmt, and explained that it was too much for her and did not recommend i try it. I forgot she even mentioned it. Well earlier today we had eaten some of my good ol GTs. Unfortunately she puked up half her dose almost immediately. In replace of what she lost, she dropped half a tab of acid.

I personally am sketchy of street drugs and love knowing exactly what im taking (my home grown cubes baby). But the topic of dmt came up about the end of our trip. She now was encouraging me to take a hit. So we mixed it with my "sugar cookies" (which is some super dank herb btw)

Ok so here it goes. I take a big hit and took direction to hold it in. Ok nothing really. I mean maybe shit started outlining itself, kind of boosted my mushroom trip back. 2nd hit was taken almost immediately. This is where shit hit the fan.

There really is no way to explain what i was seeing. It was like shit was popping out at me. In my face hard. But over and over again. It was so intense i sat there and told myself it would be over soon just hang on bro. The popup book style hallucinations went away but i was still in a deep state if mind where i felt guilty of the things im doing wrong. And felt the urge to fix my problem even if i had to face my fears.

Anyways im just wondering, does this sound like dmt? Or did i smoke pcp? Because it was (and was not) anything like i expected. And if that was dmt, how the hell can you enjoy that? I was going to try to get some toad venom before i met this friend of mine. But i think ill stick to my booms.

Edited by Dabluebonic, 04 September 2020 - 10:27 PM.

[coorsmikey]

You should try DMT by itself without any other tryptamines in your system. Like by itself or with a lil herb. You think that was trippy lol? Yeah that sounds like DMT while you were already high, you can get the full effect with DMT alone. That is some funny shit! Thanks for sharing!

 

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Edited by coorsmikey, 04 September 2020 - 10:44 PM.

[TVCasualty]

If it lasted less than 20 minutes it was DMT, not PCP. And most people I've known who are into PCP like it a lot and never reported any difficult experiences related to deep introspection with it.

 

Some DMT trips can be the most sublime moments of your life. Others can scare the shit out of you like nothing else (except maybe Salvia). Both contain valuable insights.

 

It's just a ride.

[Coopdog]

Yep that was dmt. TV, I am amazed to read your saying nobody ever related any deep introspective stuff with dmt, man my first real experience with that stuff changed my entire life with one good rip through a bong. Much deeper than a little introspective... I SAW myself through the eyes of every one and every thing I had ever interacted with... and I did not like it. Right then and there my personality morphed into a whole new me that wasn't just temporary or fleeting. It stuck with me. Yessir I think you got the real thing there lol

[TVCasualty]

Yep that was dmt. TV, I am amazed to read your saying nobody ever related any deep introspective stuff with dmt, man my first real experience with that stuff changed my entire life with one good rip through a bong. Much deeper than a little introspective... I SAW myself through the eyes of every one and every thing I had ever interacted with... and I did not like it. Right then and there my personality morphed into a whole new me that wasn't just temporary or fleeting. It stuck with me. Yessir I think you got the real thing there lol

 

It was PCP that I've not seen such reports about, not DMT.

 

Also, the "What the FUCK JUST HAPPENED TO ME?!?" reaction is a classic post-DMT reaction, lol.

[coAsTal]

I've used DMT far more than any other psychedelic-- thousands of times in fact. I've mixed it with harmalas (Syrian Rue, extracts, and Caapi), mushrooms.

 

If the crystal had a distinctly sweet/floral/chemical smell it was likely DMT-- the color is usually cream/yellowish but can be pure white with refined extractions and cleaning, or can be reddish/brown with poor extractions.

 

It's impossible to describe what you perceive when you've hit it hard-- and I say that in reverence to the experience. I remember one of the pinnacle experiences I had with it many years ago while also on mushrooms-- I loaded a solid amount into my GVG (Glass Vapo Genie) and hit it during the deeper part of the trip.

 

My (then) girlfriend disappeared, the room disappeared, and a brown/gold vortex "sucked me in" to a place outside time, space, and any comprehension of reality I could grasp. "I" had ceased to be an individuated "I", and became an abstract witness to the "real" reality-- of which I was merely a direct component.

 

It was overwhelming. Impossible. I uttered the words "I just have to make it through" at some point, as this spiral of everythingness overtook my entire perception... I remember saying the words began to re-ground me in reality. I began seeing the room again-- the fractalization of everything receded into the warped and en-lighted glow that replaced it. Shapes and structure returned.

 

This process from hit to awareness of the surroundings felt like an hour. I looked up, and swear that the clock never moved from when I started the hit.

 

DMT is a helluva drug....

[Dabluebonic]

Im glad to read your guys experiences. I believe it was dmt because it only lasted maybe a few minutes and i had no negative side effects.

It was cool to gain some self reflection in such a short period of time. But the visuals are way to much for me. Im still left scratching my head, asking myself wtf was that.

[JustinLokey]

I am glad you are okay and had a reflection to talk about.   I am way to old for that shit.  I was in Japan and smoked Japanese Mafia Pot.

Sometime laced with  "who the fuck knows"   I use to do  the real  Crystal Meth  Not bathtub crap.   I have done blotter and  micro dots.

 

These days  I don't even drink alcohol.   The craziest  I get now is  some  Mitragyna speciosa   and most Red   or  White.     

My crazy days ended when I lost half my colon and gallbladder.  Can't process chemicals well these days.

 

Pussy.  "Thats Me. 

 

JL

[Coopdog]

I think JustinLokey that you might find yourself surprised at the number of seniors in here lol :) 

[Severian]

Firstly; I must assume at this point that someone else in the thread has mentioned it; but smoking DMT on top of weed =/= smoking DMT.

 

Smoke it straight if anything, best way to go

 

 

On the topic of toad venom

 

While DMT and 5-MEO-DMT both have DMT in the name, and there are SOME similarities

 

I don't at all consider these substances within the same umbrella

 

5-meo-dmt exists in it's own realm entirely. IT's nickname is 'Infinite Gratitude'

 

I highly recommend not speaking about the two in the same breath; and definitely not allowing your experience to turn you off the toad.

[Dabluebonic]

Firstly; I must assume at this point that someone else in the thread has mentioned it; but smoking DMT on top of weed =/= smoking DMT.

Smoke it straight if anything, best way to go


On the topic of toad venom

While DMT and 5-MEO-DMT both have DMT in the name, and there are SOME similarities

I don't at all consider these substances within the same umbrella

5-meo-dmt exists in it's own realm entirely. IT's nickname is 'Infinite Gratitude'

I highly recommend not speaking about the two in the same breath; and definitely not allowing your experience to turn you off the toad.

Well sense you put it that way maybe ill still get some venom just for a rainy day. From what I've read 5 meo dmt is a bit more intense then dmt. But that they are similar. Im still extremely new to this stuff but also very intrigued.

[TVCasualty]

I can't imagine anything being more intense than two of my high-dose DMT trips.

 

They got pretty scary during the peaks, with the fear coming from the overwhelming sense that if things got even the slightest bit more intense that my mind would have exploded. Possibly my brain, too. It felt like the absolute, hard upper limit to what I could perceive as my own perception, if that makes sense (which it probably doesn't, but then I'm "describing" DMT so it's never going to 'make sense').

 

It was like my thoughts were trying to focus while I was sitting inside the blast nozzle of a rocket engine (where the fire comes out) while it was blasting off. It's really bright and loud in those during a launch, to put it mildly. I had to use all my focus and energy to hold my thoughts together or they'd get blasted right out of my brain at which point "I" would cease to exist, with my conscious awareness denatured into whatever fundamental particles consciousness emerges from (real or metaphoric; can't really tell).

 

Those experiences left me with the very distinct impression that death is going to be really interesting, assuming that they were a kind of dress rehearsal for it. In fact that was the most distinct impression I got of all. It felt like a self-evident certainty as clear and obvious as the fact that I exist.

[Coopdog]

TV, it sounds like you were right on the verge of that not existing thing. During my few hardest go's I had no connection to this life, or body whatsoever. I could not feel it breathe, I could not feel whether I was sitting down, lying down, alive or dead. I was nothing but a tiny point of PERCEPTION, trying to realize my new parameters, and if I was dead I was ok with that. I tried to remember HOW I came to be dead... and came up with a vague memory that my wife was mad at me. Did she shoot me in the head? The large Hadron supercollider was going to be doing some very important experiments, had they moved the whole world into another dimension? Damned if I could pin it down. It was fascinating, and a long story which I wrote up in Storming the gates at some point lol Yeah, there was definitely no "I" anymore. I was just a disembodied point of view trying to figure it out. My DMT has been sitting unused for probably 6-7 years now I think.

[Severian]

 

Firstly; I must assume at this point that someone else in the thread has mentioned it; but smoking DMT on top of weed =/= smoking DMT.

Smoke it straight if anything, best way to go


On the topic of toad venom

While DMT and 5-MEO-DMT both have DMT in the name, and there are SOME similarities

I don't at all consider these substances within the same umbrella

5-meo-dmt exists in it's own realm entirely. IT's nickname is 'Infinite Gratitude'

I highly recommend not speaking about the two in the same breath; and definitely not allowing your experience to turn you off the toad.

Well sense you put it that way maybe ill still get some venom just for a rainy day. From what I've read 5 meo dmt is a bit more intense then dmt. But that they are similar. Im still extremely new to this stuff but also very intrigued.

 

 

The difference as I experience it is; DMT is (at least everything I've got my hands on) is synthetic; and it has that feeling of geometric otherness that the mind just has such a hard time processing...

 

5meo on the other hand- the way I've experienced it, is that the organicness of the compound is SO smooth. Firstly, there's absolutely no fighting to keep it in; the smoke is easily inhaled and there's zero trouble holding it for as long as you want.

 

Then, it embraces the body in an incredibly gentle (yet hyperpowerful) way. 

 

That I guess is the best way to highlight the difference in the intensity of the experience between the two.

 

Of course I also have to say that 'Ritualistic/Sacred/Intentional' use of the substance is absolutely necessary.

[TVCasualty]

My DMT has been sitting unused for probably 6-7 years now I think.

 

I can relate. Most of the rest of mine has been finding itself loaded into other people's pipes lately.

[coAsTal]

You gents should really consider revisiting it in lower doses-- there's a very beneficial plane of experience available at more moderate doses that is often overlooked. For some reason it seems that the reputation of the spice being so strong-- and therefore the expectation of use-- is that DMT = hyperspace moonshot. But that's like saying that if you choose to drink alcohol you have to drink Everclear by the glass to appreciate it.

 

Of the countless times I've used it, the vaaast majority have been vaporized in the 15 to maybe 25mg range, bedded on the herbs damiana, mugwort, passionflower, and caapi leaf. This experience is very gentle, whole, and immersive. The herbs add a lot to the dynamic.

There is good reason to explore DMT at this modest level because it reveals the incremental mind-states that are completely bypassed at heavy, so-called "breakthrough" doses that typically begin at 30mg or higher.

I never ever use cannabis with it (or anything else-- it's one of the ugliest additives I know, save maybe alcohol-- nothing perverts a psychedelic like weed in my experience).

 

Additionally, the use of cooked rue seeds an hour prior to vaping further evens out the experience, adding a very deep emotional layer-- a kind of hypnotic dreaminess-- that is incredibly synergistic to the DMT.

 

Many people that have physical issues with rue are reacting to the vasoconstrictive toxins and tannins in the seeds-- but by baking the seeds in the oven at 350 for 15 minutes or so will eliminate these toxins, and dramatically eases the issues people experience when eating them raw. An added benefit is that they smell like nutty chocolate/peanuts when baked :)

Simply doing that, grinding the seeds afterward, and boiling the powder, filtering the solids out, and adding to herbal tea will make a delicious, safe brew that will deliver the harmalas you want without the nasties that turn so many off from rue.

[TVCasualty]

So 80mg inhaled in one lungful was too much? That explains a lot, lol.

 

I always just vape it directly without any carrier herb, which makes it easier to take massive doses in a single draw (and to control combustion temp better for a smoother hit).

 

 

 

And I'm also a big fan of low or moderate doses of psychedelics as they provide different experiences and insights than high doses. Which is to say I'm an advocate of taking lots and lots of varying doses of various psychedelics over many years so as to get the full spectrum of possible experiences (or as close to it as possible).

[coAsTal]

80mg... Sweet Tap-dancing Jesus.

Yeah, that's elite territory for sure. I have been there (and higher) before, but didn't have the postage to mail the memory of the experience back to this reality.

 

My GVG is my go-to because it's effortless to keep good steady heat on the chamber-- I can usually clear any amount in one deep, slow inhale... you would love the herbs- definitely adds to the experience

Edited by coAsTal, 07 September 2020 - 11:00 AM.

[Coopdog]

For a while there I preferred to put an inch long line sprinkled evenly through a blunt, and the world would change to God's color palette. Surfaces would change into geometric scale looking incredibly colored geometric patterns. You could stop just short of the blackout and see the weaving of the multiverse part, still stay in the present, but what a magical present it was. I did that for a while, but eventually came to the conclusion that it was not meant for colorful nights. It's a sacrament despite it's drawing power. No judgement meant, I enjoyed every minute of it, even the slap me awake moments. what an experience indeed.

[Dabluebonic]

Well ill say this experience has given me courage to take an even bigger leap with my fungi. I no longer fear "the fear" any longer. I've seen the unthinkable, and always keep in mind my psychedelics will help me think more clearly.

Its funny how you go through all that craziness, and somehow come out feeling mentally relieved lmao.