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[xlcor]

I took a dry half-pound of Albino Penis Envy mushrooms. This is the highest dose I've ever attempted. For the past three Saturdays, I've taken about 10 wet grams, blended into a banana smoothie. This past Saturday, I blended my dry half-pound into milk-and-condensed-milk smoothie that I mixed with Coca-Cola. This is highly unadvised, it tastes awful. I downed an entire quart of this truly vile muck in five minutes.

 

There were a lot of red flags that I chose to ignore. I also ignored all of my personal rituals and rules of tripping. I woke up about six hours later with multiple scrapes, cuts, and bruises. I was marathon sore. My room was in shambles. In my maddened state, I destroyed most of my computing equipment and wrecked all of my mushrooming equipment. I'm out about 12 quarts of inoculated WBS, 16 PF cake jars, and two fruiting chambers.

 

I don't remember much of what I did, or how I felt. I had fun, though. I was angry, and smashing shit was fun. It's normally very hard for me to feel anything at all. I didn't know I was capable of such rage. It was incredibly humbling, and very beautiful.

 

What few memories I can recall were of merriment and wonder. I remember the come-down and the afterglow. The come-down was existentially horrifying for an hour or so, until I had a nap. I felt much better after that.

 

I don't think I was in any danger. I feel that I learned about myself. The most important thing I learned is that I'm not ready for such high doses yet. I need to greatly improve myself first. I'm going to take a hiatus from psychedelics to make peace. It feels like it might be months before I'm ready to approach my friend again, but that's okay. I'm not going to push myself.

 

I look forward to good conversations with the mushroom again, when I have good things to talk about.

[coorsmikey]

Wow 224grs of APE and you managed to only smash up your room? I admire that you were able to not remember any of the puking or trips to the toilet, at the very least left that part out of the the report. If you get past the rage part let me know and I'll invite your over. The last time I had any copilots we shared 28gr of Ape 3 ways and had quarter leftover. I spent the next 6 hours making sure everyone was still breathing as they rolled in the lawn moaning gibberish, well except the buddy that jumped the fence and ran 5 miles home. That guy I didn't have to babysit but he did show up the next day asking if he left his clothes at my house and to pick his truck up. All of them haven’t had any desire for psychedelics since then, that was over a year ago. Needless to say even though I still have there cravings, I have only tripped alone since.

To bad you didn't video that ride, but I also believe that ones body can only absorb so much of the goodies and you prolly wasted 200gr as 24 would have turned out about the same.

You come off to me as very literate and posses a good intellect. Why would you you eat a half pound of dried mushrooms? What were you thinking or better said, what was the goal? Check out DMT if you want to see some shit. Mostly to other readers as its to late to tell you, Don't Eat Half pounds of psychedelic mushrooms!

Edited by coorsmikey, 17 January 2021 - 07:04 PM.

[xlcor]

I promised to eat the entirety of my first harvest, as a trial-by-fire initiation into psychedelia. The idea was to put my full faith and trust into the mushroom. I don't regret it. I won't be trying it again any time soon.

 

The few experiences I had before this Saturday, on the three previous Saturdays, were eating pins and/or not-quite-developed fruits. I also don't have a super fine-tuned gram scale. I'm working with a bathroom scale. All of my previous dosages were estimates. This one, however, was a dosage hefty enough to register on the bathroom scale. Plate-and-all it weighed 0.8 lbs, and the plate weighed 0.3 lbs. I don't have gram-to-pound ratios memorized, so I made the mistake of thinking I was eating about 14 grams. In fact, I still hadn't checked it until I read your post. Realizing I ate over 200 grams of hallucinogenic mushroom really helps give some perspective.

 

EDIT: I'm likely to adopt a new rule of not eyeballing doses. I'm notoriously bad at estimation.

 

I agree most of the dose was wasted. Luckily, the purging wasn't too bad. I have no clue why. I drink homebrewed kombucha to help with IBS. I didn't vomit and bowel movements were only slightly atypical.

 

It felt more like being blackout drunk than anything. I didn't want to see shit, necessarily, although I hope to at some point. I just wanted to fully immerse myself in the mushrooms. I considered my promise, to use my entire first harvest, an act of love. I truly feel a connection to my mushrooms. I consider them as much family as anything in my garden, or even my dogs.

 

I can't say that I was living up to my lofty ideals when the time came. It didn't feel like coming together to learn from an equal being. It felt like base lust, animal consumption, like I was just using the mushroom. One of my rituals is that I fast before and during the trip. My doses are timed so that dinner is comedown. The mushroom is my only sustenance during the trip, along with a banana for a small bit of serotonin. I broke that ritual. I had a heavy breakfast of high-fat, high-carb, and high-sodium. The Coca-Cola's caffeine didn't help. I didn't go for my come-up jog, didn't even get out into the full sun. I felt neurotic even before I had my dose, but I ignored all of that for senseless hedonism.

 

I'll echo your last point with every fiber of my being: don't eat half pounds of psychedelic mushrooms!

Edited by xlcor, 10 October 2020 - 09:23 PM.

[Boebs]

Man a half oz of p.e gets 2-4 people in the stars..
Im glad you came down and are safe!

That is one hell of a high ass dose..

Next time try like a handfull of wets.
Always been my golden rule.
Cant grab more than you need with one hand lmao

[newmoon]

Depends on density, of course, but 1/2lb dry might be several quart sized mason jars full of fungus - are you sure your scale isn't way off? When I make honey I normally use 50g of mushrooms at a time, and that generally fills the blender before I powder them...

[xlcor]

I assume my scale is functioning correctly, but I have no clue how I'd verify this. It took several batches in my personal-smoothie-blender to blend it all down.

 

EDIT: Yes, I think I'll stick with freshrooms when I get back into growing. I always had a good time with freshrooms. Does baeocystin survive the drying process?

Edited by xlcor, 10 October 2020 - 11:13 PM.

[coorsmikey]

Does any have the number for Guinness World Records?

[pharmer]

I suspect a math error

 

OR

 

do you routinely take xanax or anything like it?

[xlcor]

No, I don't regularly take Xanax or any pharmaceutical. A math error is incredibly likely. I'm not going to go against cooler and more experienced heads here. That's a really weird margin of error on my scale, but bathroom scales are not precision devices. I'll assume my measurement was wrong. Based on my reaction, I'd like to believe it was a high dose; it's a bit concerning if it wasn't. I can't discount the idea that overestimating the dose might very well be a coping mechanism for having my ass kicked. It's always less embarrassing when The Hulk laid you out.

 

Does anyone have advice for a retrospective way to gauge the dose I actually did take, or is it folly to even attempt to do so? The harvest filled a 9x11 Pyrex glass baking dish to about 3/4 full, and reduced down to about half-a-quart of mushroom slurry.

Edited by xlcor, 11 October 2020 - 11:11 AM.

[swayambhu]

Depends on density, of course, but 1/2lb dry might be several quart sized mason jars full of fungus - are you sure your scale isn't way off? When I make honey I normally use 50g of mushrooms at a time, and that generally fills the blender before I powder them...

Often with reports of ultra high doses it’s the thought of the sheer volume of fungal matter that has me scratching my head.

[Alpoehi]

Bathroom scales???

Dunno what the talk is about ... I give weight to my doses using  a 0.001 gram scale.

And the volume one sees in front of oneself ... if I understood it right 200 grams or 0.44 lbs.

Should trigger some common human sense, watching a dose large than a portion of french fries.

 

To be honest I'm glad you have not grown Pans and taken it. Although it's said one cannot overdose with Cubes, It's a serious issue for the body and the hormone system what "happened" to you.

The only thing I can see you have learned a great lesson from it. And you did.

Thanks for sharing.

 

 

 

 

 

[Alpoehi]

Here's a pic of what is generally considered a "large" dose of cubes.
I usually take half of it - sometimes a bit more than that.

[TVCasualty]

I assume my scale is functioning correctly, but I have no clue how I'd verify this. It took several batches in my personal-smoothie-blender to blend it all down.

 

EDIT: Yes, I think I'll stick with freshrooms when I get back into growing. I always had a good time with freshrooms. Does baeocystin survive the drying process?

 

Calibrating a scale every once in a while is a good idea IMO.

 

But a bathroom scale probably wouldn't even register any weight on it at all until there was a whole lot of fungi sitting on it since those kind of scales are low-precision. So even if the scale is off by 20% +/- there would still probably have to be a truly massive dose sitting on it if it registered anything at all. It might not have been a full half-pound but it was almost certainly a "shitload," technically speaking.

 

And for next time I'd suggest trying lime juice rather than curdled milk (just lime juice, no milk).

[Juthro]

I also have to assume there was some math errors here.  As Alpoehi so kindly illustrated in the picture above, there is a volume issue.  A half pound is 40X what he shows.  To make a condensed milk, and coke smoothie with that amount of dried mushrooms would require a bucket to mix it up in, just due to the volume of material.   

 

I think it would very difficult at best to hold down a single oz of dried fruit bodies without purging, let alone 8 oz's.  I've managed to eat about 7 grams dried, and that's my limit, and I wont do it again. When I want to leave the solar system now, I turn it into a tea, and leave the chitin shits behind me, so to speak.

 

And get yourself a kitchen scale, its worth the $13 

https://www.amazon.c...02443900&sr=8-8

Edited by Juthro, 11 October 2020 - 03:35 PM.

[xlcor]

Bathroom scales???

Dunno what the talk is about ... I give weight to my doses using  a 0.001 gram scale.

And the volume one sees in front of oneself ... if I understood it right 200 grams or 0.44 lbs.

Should trigger some common human sense, watching a dose large than a portion of french fries.

 

To be honest I'm glad you have not grown Pans and taken it. Although it's said one cannot overdose with Cubes, It's a serious issue for the body and the hormone system what "happened" to you.

The only thing I can see you have learned a great lesson from it. And you did.

Thanks for sharing.

 

I took this dose because I committed to using my full first harvest in one sitting. This was a promise I made at the very beginning of my growing, before I had even received my first syringe. I didn't understand how much yield I'd get from a few fruiting PF Cakes. When the time came, I was incredibly apprehensive about taking the full dose. The few days leading up to it was some of the edgiest I've been in a while. I wonder how much of the unpleasantness can be put down to some unacknowledged, growing fear. I'm glad I started with Cubes. Is there evidence that you can overdose on Pans?

 

I've learned a few lessons. I'm sure there's more to come as I reflect on this experience. If anybody starting down this path is reading this: I'd highly recommend not committing yourself to using your first full harvest in one sitting. If you have, meditate on it good and hard. There's no shame in realizing you made a goof. There's no dishonor in reevaluating your perceptions. If you're bound and determined then godspeed. I wish the best for you.

 

Also, you're right, Juthro. I'll make sure a good scale is the first part of my new kit when I get back into this fine art. I'll take the advice of teas and lime juice as well. Hot damn are smoothies unpalatable. I haven't had any GI distress from mushrooming yet. I put that down to my kombucha and exercise routines, both of which I've adopted to regulate my existing GI dysfunctions.

 

Based on visual inspection of what Alpoehi shows, I think I had about six to seven times that amount. Again, I'm bad at estimation, but I definitely didn't take 40x that amount. No clue why my scale showed 0.5 lbs. It's in agreement with my other scales about how much the Pyrex dish weighs.

[Alpoehi]

When you used a mechanical scale - it has a spring inside connected to the scale. The spring needs some pull to tighten then you can start weighting. So it may be it took 0,4 lbs to pull up the spring, measuring on scale.

From then on the measurement was approximating accurateness.

Not a good way to measure haha ...

From what I read from you I get you have a strong mind. Welcome to the club. Tripping can be tough at times. You kept your word - that's something.

[TVCasualty]

My first harvest was almost exactly one ounce (dry weight).

 

I split it four ways (with my gf at the time and another couple) and it blew all of our minds pretty thoroughly. Seven grams would be considered a "huge" dose by most people, so what you took was like the fungal equivalent of a thumbprint.

 

Anyway, Pans are generally 3-5X stronger than cubes, and a lot of people who have taken extreme doses of Pans report being paralyzed on the floor for hours to a degree that no dose of cubes ever seems to result in (no matter how large). The people reporting that effect did not enjoy it.

[coorsmikey]

My mind or body seems to know the perfect dose for me. As soon as I get to the level my mind or body decides that I have had enough, whatever is left in my belly get evacuated one way or another.

 

Just for another frame of reference though, A half pound of dried mushroom fills up 2 one gallon ziplock bags. 4 oz of finely ground mushroom dry with no liquid added will fill a quart jar just below half way or almost fill a pint jar.

[Alpoehi]

As to the potency of various species of shrooms you can look it up here:

 

https://erowid.org/p...oms_info4.shtml

 

erowid is a good site for trip reports. I once felt compelled to snuff Yopo. I read trip reports before I did. Then I discarded it.

Same with salvia.

 

It saved me from a lot of trouble I think.

Edited by Alpoehi, 11 October 2020 - 03:53 PM.

[swayambhu]

My first harvest was almost exactly one ounce (dry weight).
 

Lol, my first harvest was maybe four or five individual mushrooms. I don’t know what happened to the poor little dudes, but I certainly never ate them!

Half a pound for a first grow off of PF cakes sounds pretty alright!