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[Jrotten]

Mexican Zapos spawned to too much vermiculite. It's about 1.5 sub to spawn.  Pretty heavy..  It's actually gypsum, compost, coir, verm.  The compost was a little wet and green so I cut it down.  It's fuzzing out nice today.  The jars moved faster than any previous attempt and it's all one culture so I'm taking that to mean something.  I'm not currently fruiting anything so I have all my bags and trays colonizing in the FC with the temp set to 77F and the humidity set 80-90.  I might tighten that delta up and shoot for more of an average of 85.  I find a little bit of humid air moving around in the FC does bags pretty well.

[smellitstinknot]

Nice work mate hope you have a good run fruiting them. I'm not far off fruiting another batch of aussie sect.zapotecorum. Substrate is wheat spawned to half gallons/quarts of sterilized pea straw/coir/horse manure (equal parts by volume) I like this mixture as it can be shaken for fast colonization.

[YoshiTrainer]

A couple of bags of Australian sect. Zapotecorum.

First one is a nice block of fortified mesquite chips, fuel pellets, straw, Wpoo, gyp. I might just try to case the top and fruit it in the bag or maybe drop it in a pot outside with some soil?



The second bag is only a couple weeks old and on Ferather's WL-TEK.

https://mycotopia.ne...84-wl-tek-2019/

[YoshiTrainer]

Australian sect. Zapotecorum mycelium on glass.

[YoshiTrainer]

The bag in the top pic from 2 posts above was crumbled into a shoe box, allowed to recover and cased with CV/sand. The photo is over a month later, right before I added a thin layer of soil from a seasonal creek bed.

Edited by YoshiTrainer, 26 May 2022 - 03:48 PM.

[Nichrome]

Is there a specific media recipe or temp I should be keeping my zap spores at for germination? I've thrown everything in my book at getting zap spores to germ with no success. I've tried 3 different prints now, some I collected in the wild many years ago, and a couple that were generously gifted by nice OMC folk but even those were already a few years old by the time I got them in my hands. Looking at the spores under 1600x and more, they look small and delicate and likely they don't stay viable very long or they are easily killed. You guys think it's my spores or is there something I am doing wrong or missing?

 

I have wanted to grow them for many years since the first time I found and ate them in the wild.

[YoshiTrainer]

I wish I could offer you some magic ingredient to get your Zap spores going. I'd guess, like you hint at, that perhaps the spores are too old or dry?

If somehow I can fruit and print this thing, you are first in line for a fresh one.

Were you in Mexico when you first sampled Zaps?

[Nichrome]

Hey thanks Yoshi. I was in Costa Rica when I found them. I ate them to stay awake as the forces of mother nature pinned me and a friend down in a small cave in the jungle for a night. To sleep that night would have been a mistake. I learned a lot about respect that night. The place is a massive mountain covered in waterfalls and vipers and army ants. There were several hundred thousand pre-incan graves found in the foothills of that place where people made coffee plantations. They were told to stop clearing area there for plantations and the area was designated as a protected historical site. It is an absolutely beautiful place. The visions in my mind when I ate the zaps were spooky to say the least. Old spirits wait a long time and are expecting you. Don't be surprised, and have respect.

[YoshiTrainer]

That is an incredible story Nichrome! When people speak of set and setting for their trips, I doubt many would choose yours. As you say, you had no choice though. The power of Mother Nature and the overwhelming spiritual energy combined with the Zapotecorum, I couldn't imagine. I've been through a couple tropical storms, sober, which are pretty impressive, I couldn't imagine hurricanes.

[Arathu]

Personally, I don't think anything is random or accidental......I have to work at getting "nothing" to happen, and even then "something" is coming down.....

 

Every place has it's spirit(s), it's past, and most folks just pass through without noticing or even if they do sense "things" they ignore it or get the "creeps" and leave....

 

That's sounds like a very interesting evening Nichrome....to say the least.....those genetics beckon your utmost attention and skills IMHO...I swear that certain mushrooms make sure that I find them.....

 

I find myself in the mountains usually, and I'm always drawn to the bottoms, creeks and rivers, the riparian because many mushrooms and usually good fishing are found there.....

 

Practically speaking good clean spring water and a sheltered camp(s) is high on the priority list when I'm "out and about"....

 

But a trip to and at the "top" almost always happens......

 

Awesome!

 

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[Nichrome]

A beautiful sight to behold. The purple tint is from the writing on the lid of the dish. This was a little speck that caught some air and landed near the edge.

 

[YoshiTrainer]

That is awesome Nichrome!

[YoshiTrainer]

Some Zapotecorum 'Chicon Nindo' subs.

Zap on pans sub: straw, compost, Wpoo, chk feed, with a touch of sawdust added. It appears to be eating everything except the straw.



Zap on wood mix, which is much like the pan mix but much more sawdust and some cacti soil. Again, everything but the straw is colonized.



Zap on CV+ sawdust, Wpoo and soil from a seasonal mountain creek bed. It was the slowest but seems to be doing it.



Last, compost, vermiculite, sand, chk feed. It is hard to see because of the verm but it ate the compost.



The next will be compost only. Eventually I'll dub the smaller subs, probably pull the straw off too. The bigger one will go outside to a trashcan.

[Nichrome]

Put a nice looking t2 to lc and made a stack of t3's.

[YoshiTrainer]

Good luck Nichrome! Do you have plans for your subs yet? Are you going indoor or out with them?

[Nichrome]

Coir/verm, coir/verm/chopped straw, potting soil, just chopped straw, composted rabbit manure (worm casting at this point)/fermented poplar sawdust.... Just ideas.

 

Any suggestions? I have a lot of options. Everything from glacial melt clay to manure, grasses, various woodlike substances, etc. corn cob....

 

I figure I'll start with more simple methods. Time still to get them to happen outside I hope but some will go into chambers with bubblers inside for sure.

[YoshiTrainer]

It sounds like you have some great options there Nichrome and seem to have a good "feel" for subs. For me, moving forward with the culture I have, I will probably focus on the bagged compost, possibly Wpoo, sand, soil from seasonal Mt. creek bed and maybe COIR? In the experiments above, they didn't seem to like my straw or verm. Definitely some bubbler/airpump FAE, probably a shoebox under white LED supplemented with blue.

Good luck!

[YoshiTrainer]

A 1/2 pint Zapo 'CN' on ARGS headed to bulk sub, along with it's sibling.

Edited by YoshiTrainer, 02 August 2022 - 12:30 AM.

[YoshiTrainer]

I made a trashcan of zapotecorum 'Chicon Nindo'. I used 2 healthy subs with bagged compost underneath and around the subs then topped with cacti soil.

I also checked my trashcan of Australian sect. Zap and some kind of mycelium has taken over. Hopefully in a month or so, I'll find out if it is my myc or a competitor.

[YoshiTrainer]

Psilocybe Sp. section zapotecorum from Australia, in a trashcan outside. When I first saw the clumps of white, I was thinking it was Mean Green but instead PINS!!!!!!

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