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#1 FLASHINGROOSTER

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 11:42 AM

When talking about small time growers like many people on this site, do we know anyone personally in real life or that has frequented this site in the past that was busted for cultivation?

 

I would love to hear any stories of such

 

Cannabis is a bit of a different situation as far as regulation goes these days but mushrooms are pretty much still illegal everywhere.

 

Just wondering about the theory of keep it secret keep it safe and you will likely never have to worry about law enforcement intervention. Seems to be when a guy tries to scale up into selling on mass is when Johnny law would find it worth his time to start flipping rocks over


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 12:11 PM

When I was a college freshman I was busted the first time I took lsd. I didn't know anything about drug culture or about the drug and stumbled around in public.

They called the RA and I had a horrible trip because of it. The lsd said I would be ok.

Nothing came out of it since they thought I was incredibly drunk, couldn't find any drugs or perhaps the resedential advisor saved my ass. I got put on school probation, kept my scholarship and ended up getting caught two more times for smoking pot in the fields at night over the next two years. Nothing came of those either except I was on my last "strike" before loosing my scholarship. When I graduated the file on me was destroyed.

Being caught when I was so reckless taught me about stealth and trust. I cultivate a persona that makes me seem like a square because of these experiences. Being busted also gave me some paranoia and difficulties in life due to a conflict between my will (being an initiate of the mushroom which I believe to be a divine teacher) and societal norms.


I am interested in bust because I want to live free and also this site, is it safe for us to share or do we need to have vpns, photo scrubbers, gloves on in pictures always, no location revealing pics, etc? I am wondering if old timers can comment on this with your many years of wisdom.

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Posted 22 February 2021 - 06:05 PM

This has been covered before, but I will break it down to a simple answer. All the forums in this site are moderated by our members with those permissions. (moderators and app. admin.)

 

This means that any one of us can delete or add to any posts made by any member, thereby altering the content. This renders any conversations here "unreliable" for accuracy as far as evidence.

We also look out for our members to protect your privacy.

There have been a few times in my recollection, when a member got arrested for outside actions, that the  account was locked to prevent any "unauthorized" access to personal data.

 

To my knowledge, no member here has ever been busted because of their posts on Mycotopia. The idea however of keeping your grows discrete and not telling your friends or anyone who does not "need" to know in your outside daily life, is always going to be the best way to keep off the radar...


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Posted 22 February 2021 - 07:10 PM

Thanks Sky, I suppose the situation I was imaging in my head was if a member ever took the time to come on and say hey. I got busted and this is what happened ect.

 

Do people actually get busted for these small time self grow operations? Surely they are out there but the lack of anecdotal evidence could be a good sign

 

Any old busted story works for the sake of conversation though, like Mr Moon above.



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Posted 22 February 2021 - 07:30 PM

Thanks Sky, I suppose the situation I was imaging in my head was if a member ever took the time to come on and say hey. I got busted and this is what happened ect.

 

Do people actually get busted for these small time self grow operations? Surely they are out there but the lack of anecdotal evidence could be a good sign

 

Any old busted story works for the sake of conversation though, like Mr Moon above.

Yes there a few that have come back after being busted to tell us what happened. Every single incident I recall was not because of their posts and in fact the courts never even brought what they might have said on a public forum as evidence. Usually the hard drugs, Mistreating women, and lots of weapons were more to blame than actual cultivation of mushrooms. When one engages in such behavior the man will stick it all to you so you will do time for at least one of the crimes. Hard drugs can lead to some bad behaviors, and when your accomplice that knows all your secrets should be that last person you treat unkindly no matter how crazy high on drugs she is. The second one lays a hand on her or points a weapon at her you can be pretty sure who turned you in.

 

Trust no one but be kind to everyone! Especially those who have dirt on you.

 

Of course most of the situations have been told mostly be hind the curtain, There are some stories out there in view.


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Posted 22 February 2021 - 08:19 PM

From the few stories I have heard of people getting busted in the drug world it usually stems from a stupid decisions like you said Mikey, like deciding to speed while you were transporting that kilo of coke.

 

One crime at a time people

 

Trying to imagine a cop going to a judge and asking for a search warrant for a montotub, especially based on some post's on the internet. Post's that they will have difficulty in proving intent, whether or not it was just all hot air

 

Seems highly unlikely and more like what you said, you would pretty much have to get snitched on for something like that to go down. Or the cops were there for something else and at that point have to do something.

 

After growing weed in my basement for a few years I am over the whole raid paranoia thing, not that I haven't had my days though. One time I ran into the basement and started pulling power cords out of the sockets in an attempt to prevent detection from a FLIR camera. Too many pot brownies and youtube videos on how to avoid detection that day.

 

Thank god that shit is legal now, no more worries.

Well until that CIA helicopter comes back. I am onto you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have to admit a small part of me liked the danger though.




 


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Posted 22 February 2021 - 09:20 PM

Thanks Skye, Mikey,

Knowing that the site hasn't led to any or been used for arrest is something that makes me feel alot better.
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Posted 26 February 2021 - 05:28 PM

I also saw a top mod of shroomery, much higher profile than here, once say that the site has never been asked for any info or anything by police or FBI or what have you. 

 

You get busted for what you do in real life not what you post here. 

 

I can tell you about my friend that wrecked his car while high on nos and had a backpack full of drugs that's now doing 10 years. and it looks like they intend to make him do all of it... Well that's mainly the whole story. Don't fuck off in real life, people.


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Posted 27 February 2021 - 03:45 PM

I like the OP question.  Had same question.  I concur with the comments.  I've looked into this a bit.  almost every news report I've read on ppl busted for psilo stemmed from actions involving selling hard drugs like meth, coke, et al.  The gun issue is a big one!  Even if you are just growing for personal use and not selling, and you happen to get "busted," if there are guns in the place you are growing, your sentence will jump by 5 years in most places in the US.   

 

In one particular state the rule is: A person is guilty of a felony where they manufacture or possess with intent to deliver psilocybin or psilocin.  A violation is punishable by not more than 7 years in prison or a fine of not more than $10,000.00, or both.  But if there is a gun found during the raid, that 7 year max sentence is increased to 12 years! 

 

And it does not matter if you own the gun legally.  the mere fact that a gun was found at the premises where growing was happening, you will be facing the additional 5 years.  Take away = don't have any guns where you are growing!

 

With regard to LEO's basing a case on your posts, I also agree, probably not going to happen.  Although I suspect some LEO's lurk the forums once in a while, 99.9% do not.  Most LEO's are ignorant of this topic, i.e they think the spores are dangerous, they think growers use dangerous fertilizers, etcetera.  lol.  LEO's don't even have an understanding of the physical world around them in that they don't know that there are 1,000s of fungal spores in every cubic foot of air.  

 

Examples of LEO's talking and showing they are clueless:

 

1st video from Portland 2008 - cop says that 80 jars is a "sizable grow" and that makes the 300 jars their found to be a "huge" bust!!!  lol  by my math 300 jars (1/2pints) will yield ~ 2.2-4.2lbs.  Sure it's a lot but hardly a George Jung.  And note that many States do not determine penalties for growing mushies based on weight.

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2nd video where cop in Austin TX in 2018 says that breathing "magic" mushroom spores can be fatal...and thank god none of the kids or church goers down the street died from inhaling the spores!  Poor guy is clueless!  He needs a basic course in what air is and that every breath he takes has some fungal spores in it.  Jesus!:

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3rd video where cop in 2015 states "thank god no kids breathed in the spores bc it could have been deadly!"  Drives me bananas!  those same kids are breathing in spores with every breath they take.  lol.  But also note that the guy busted was selling pills. 

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It's actually sad that the LEO's trying to enforce the drug laws (as bullshit as they are) are clueless/dumb about the materials they are tasked with eliminating.  If anyone finds a report of someone busted for ONLY growing mushies, please post it.  every news report I found involved the selling of other contrlled materials. 


Edited by ilikethings, 27 February 2021 - 04:05 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2021 - 05:02 PM

I saw some insane methods for sentencing on an episode of Hamilton. Everything was compared to the ultimate of the devils drugs marijuana. It was something like 1g of pcp= 10 kilo's of weed. It was so fucking ridiculous it would make your head spin. It's almost like three DEA idiots got together and wrote the laws down on a napkin and that somehow became law.

 

 Sorry no fancy youtube time stamp but if you skip ahead to around the 18:00 mark he starts talking to a poor soul that got busted trying to make his own DMT. Hope you are ready for some absurd shit. Like spending 20,000 on a helicopter to spy on him.

 

 

https://www.dailymot...m/video/x6up219

 

Watching those videos reminds me of another crazy video I watched years ago where these idiot cops repelled down from a helicopter in (I think) Appalachian's to get to an isolated grow. Chopping it down and bagging it up, the amount of money, time, and human life they waste is unreal

 

 

To speak the the gun possession we have similar laws in Canada as well. I know a guy who was living in an apartment with a few dudes and one of them got caught selling the hard stuff. They took his varmit gun and charged him even thought he had nothing to do with the operation, other than tolerating it. A weapon and a scale are you worst enemy if you actually get busted. Those two things immediately mean you are violent and selling drugs, its such bs


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Posted 11 March 2021 - 07:10 PM

I saw some insane methods for sentencing on an episode of Hamilton. Everything was compared to the ultimate of the devils drugs marijuana. It was something like 1g of pcp= 10 kilo's of weed. It was so fucking ridiculous it would make your head spin. It's almost like three DEA idiots got together and wrote the laws down on a napkin and that somehow became law.

 

UHG!  Yea, the punishments proscribed by most U.S./CANADA states/provinces is BS.--not to mention Asia!  lol. 

 

 Sorry no fancy youtube time stamp but if you skip ahead to around the 18:00 mark he starts talking to a poor soul that got busted trying to make his own DMT. Hope you are ready for some absurd shit. Like spending 20,000 on a helicopter to spy on him.

 

https://www.dailymot...m/video/x6up219

 

No worries.  Listesing to it now.  I like Hamitons stuff but only sen about 1/4 of his work.  I hear he quitting making videos and going back to a regular chemist/ lab job.  He said the videos/mini docs were too much work for little money--doesnt want to be responsible for employees and what not.  I think i saw this episode a while back.  reminded me to buy some of that root stock for pre-req for nn-dmt!  lol

 

To speak the the gun possession we have similar laws in Canada as well. I know a guy who was living in an apartment with a few dudes and one of them got caught selling the hard stuff. They took his varmit gun and charged him even thought he had nothing to do with the operation, other than tolerating it. A weapon and a scale are you worst enemy if you actually get busted. Those two things immediately mean you are violent and selling drugs, its such bs

 

Yep.   it sucks.  not to mention the asset forfieture laws...where the police can take your property without ever charging you with a crime--they charge the inanimate objects as being part of a crime.  I suspect they have this in CA too as it comes from english law--called "in rem."  it's where you see the the case titles like "U.S. Government vs. $84,000 in cash."  The cash itself is on trial, not a human being.  which reminds me of when prosecutors would charge animals with murder and sentence the animal to death!

 

https://en.wikipedia...ki/Animal_trial

 

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