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#1 Akkariacher

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 01:21 PM

Hey guys. This is my third grow. But it is my first time using grains instead of brf. It is also my first time using spawn bags.
I have 2 colonizing with some APE R. They've been colonizing for a month and ten days. I know this is probably longer than it should take. My house Temps are generally cold, ranging from 62-67 F. Not to mention I used liquid Spores which I know isn't recommended.
I broke up the mycelium in both bags at around 30% to help speed things up.
To me it looks like they need more time to colonize. But I'm afraid it's taking too long and may contimate if it's not already? But I'm not completely sure since this is my first time with grains and spawn bags.
Colonization has slowed a lot in the past 4 or 5 days. But I don't want to break the myc again and risk weakening the myc.
What do you guys think? I plan to spawn to bulk with pasteurized horse manure and coir. But I don't want to spawn to bulk yet if the rye berries aren't ready.
The pictures I posted are labeled so you know which bag is which.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 02:15 PM

I say just give them a little more time, it looks like the colonized bits are well distributed so no need to break up again. They look almost done, maybe another week or two.
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#3 Akkariacher

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:19 PM

I say just give them a little more time, it looks like the colonized bits are well distributed so no need to break up again. They look almost done, maybe another week or two.

Okay thanks for the input. Is it ok that they've been taking awhile? Another week or two would put me at a month and a half or a month and 3 weeks.


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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:20 PM

I'm with pastyoureyes. Give it another couple of weeks and they'll be ready.
There is nothing wrong with using spore syringes for grows man. It looks like you got good strong mycelial growth in the bags and it's pretty well established, so I wouldn't worry about it contaminating. I let my spawn get like this or more every time before I transfer.

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Posted 22 March 2021 - 03:42 PM

Same here. Sometimes they take a bit longer. Nothing to worry about. This one will take a month and 3 weeks I guess.
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Posted 22 March 2021 - 04:33 PM

I have had bags with 4-5 quarts of grain in them take 2 months. Should be fine as long as they were properly hydrated sterilized and sealed.

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Posted 24 March 2021 - 08:03 AM

The lower temps aren't working in your favor, they like mid to upper 70's. Agreed, give it some more time, they are coming along nicely.

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Posted 24 March 2021 - 08:54 AM

They look contaminated to me. Kind of powdery/chalky brown looking mold or something here and there. 


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Posted 24 March 2021 - 09:09 AM

They look contaminated to me. Kind of powdery/chalky brown looking mold or something here and there. 

Yea was gonna say I think I'm seeing a powdery yeast or something. 



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Posted 26 March 2021 - 11:41 AM

They look contaminated to me. Kind of powdery/chalky brown looking mold or something here and there.

Yea was gonna say I think I'm seeing a powdery yeast or something.
Oh boy, that doesn't sound good. I smelled both the bags and one of them smells like fresh mushrooms. The other smells like mushrooms with a side of sweet and sour

Definitely seems like yeast is developing in one of the bags.

What should I do with the yeasty smelling bag? Any chance the myc could defeat it if I just leave the bag for a week or two to do its thing?

As for the nice smelling bag I will most likely be spawning it to bulk once it's finished colonizing.

Could the bag that smells like yeast and mooshies still be spawned to bulk when at 100%? I would of course be keeping it separate from the healthy bag.

Appreciate the help guys, really means a lot and am greatful I have access to a forum with such knowledgeable growers.

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Posted 26 March 2021 - 11:44 AM

The lower temps aren't working in your favor, they like mid to upper 70's. Agreed, give it some more time, they are coming along nicely.

Yea I agree. I moved the bags to a slightly warmer spot on top of the fridge. Which ranges from 68-72F. On average 69F. Only a couple degrees warmer but hopefully it'll help a bit..

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Posted 26 March 2021 - 11:51 AM

I'm with pastyoureyes. Give it another couple of weeks and they'll be ready.
There is nothing wrong with using spore syringes for grows man. It looks like you got good strong mycelial growth in the bags and it's pretty well established, so I wouldn't worry about it contaminating. I let my spawn get like this or more every time before I transfer.

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Really appreciate the photo, its a really good reference for me to go by.

I always hear a lot of growers say to start from agar for grow bags, which I'm sure is definitely the better way to go.

I just haven't learned agar yet as like a lots of newbies think it seems intimidating. Which is also the case for me -_-

But I plan on learning agar for my next grow. I like this hobby and want to get good at it and continue learning (:


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#13 Arathu

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Posted 27 March 2021 - 01:30 PM

Don't be intimidated by agar, look at no pour agar in jelly jars and other containers, but try the pre-sterilized plastic pitri plates too. It's cooking and canning for the lab......

 

Get your agar game on.......it opens up a whole new realm of exploration..

 

This is worth a peek too IMHO.... https://www.thermofi...-technique.html

 

 

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