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Wait a minute did the intelligence agencies trick us again?


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#1 FLASHINGROOSTER

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Posted 16 April 2021 - 09:38 PM

Some of you surely remember the Russian bounty story plastered all over the news from a few months back.

 

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The other "offical sources" claiming it as credible changed their offical tune on it. From medium credibility to low credibility (AKA bullshit)

 

Odd that this fact was not talked about initially, the information that they used to twist the narrative was gleamed through those " advanced interrogation techniques" we know all to well. That being the primary reasons so many others doubted it as credible information when it first came out. Neat trick, your technically not performing torture if you get another governments intelligence agency to do it.

 

 

US officials told The Daily Beast that the reporting about the alleged bounties came from “detainee reporting,” which suggests the bogus information was obtained through interrogation by the US-backed Afghan government, which has a history of torturing prisoners. The fact that some of the information was obtained through interrogation was included in the original New York Times report, one reason why so many doubted it.

 

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US Intelligence Walks Back Claim Russia Paid Bounties for US Troops in Afghanistan The State Department still cited the Russian bounty story to justify new sanctions on RussiaDave DeCamp Posted on April 15, 2021Categories NewsTags Afghanistan

Since The New York Times published a story in June 2020 that claimed US intelligence concluded Russia offered bounties to militants in Afghanistan to kill US troops, it has slowly been revealed that the report had no basis. On Thursday, putting the final nail in the coffin of the Russian bounty hoax, the Biden administration walked back the claim.

“The United States intelligence community assesses with low to moderate confidence that Russian intelligence officers sought to encourage Taliban attacks US and coalition personnel in Afghanistan in 2019 and perhaps earlier,” a senior administration official told The Daily Beast.

As The Daily Beast report explains, “low to moderate confidence” means “the intelligence agencies have found the story is, at best, unproven — and possibly untrue.”

The comments from the officials are not surprising, as US intelligence agencies, most notably the NSA, dissented from the Russian bounty story almost immediately. Shortly after the original New York Times report was published, NSA sources spoke out against the conclusion.

A memo circulated by the National Intelligence Council in July 2020 said only the CIA and the National Counterterrorism Center assessed with “medium confidence” that Russia offered the Taliban bounties. The memo said other intelligence agencies, only mentioning the NSA by name, gave it “low confidence.” According to US intelligence agencies’ definition of the confidence levels, the “medium” or “moderate” confidence level leaves plenty of room for doubt.

US officials told The Daily Beast that the reporting about the alleged bounties came from “detainee reporting,” which suggests the bogus information was obtained through interrogation by the US-backed Afghan government, which has a history of torturing prisoners. The fact that some of the information was obtained through interrogation was included in the original New York Times report, one reason why so many doubted it.

President Trump dismissed the Russian bounty story as a “hoax,” which prompted cries of treason from his political opponents. The report inspired House Democrats, working with Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) to add an amendment to the 2021 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that sought to block troop withdrawals from Afghanistan, which was included in the final NDAA.

Despite the fact that the Russian bounty story has zero credibility, the Biden administration is still using it to advance hawkish Russia policies. When announcing a series of sanctions on Moscow and the expelling of Russian diplomats on Thursday, the State Department cited “reports of bounties on US soldiers in Afghanistan.”

 
Author: Dave DeCamp

Edited by FLASHINGROOSTER, 16 April 2021 - 09:42 PM.

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Posted 07 May 2021 - 01:07 AM

The previous 4+ years of Russia hysteria is a little mind blowing to me. I view it as telltale sign that politics in the USA is beyond redeemable. The phrase knuckle draggers has made the rounds here recently. I'm christening every pearl clutcher that laments all the enabling of "conspiracy thinking" and "mis/disinformation" (phrases that get more and more ominous by the day) by the Trump/GOP/etc as, knuckle draggers. They deserve the moniker for refusing to acknowledge the largest, most reported on conspiracy theory of the last decade (at least)...Russiagate - in most of it's forms. 


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Posted 07 May 2021 - 10:58 AM

It is staring to seem so predictable at this point. Now that the democrats are in power the right wing news publications turn up the heat of the threat from China, flipping the script over to a different evil empire that we should all fear. The worst part of it all is how that Russia gate story is mostly still accepted as truth by the majority of the public. Those Putin jokes never seemed to go away, as if he was hiding in your walls ready to burst out at any moment. You often hear people say, well if there was nothing going on why did all these people get arrested? Well the answer is because they did illegal shit. However none of that said doodoo had anything to do with collusion with the Russian empire.

 

Russia may be one of the longest running enemies of the united states but the actual threat posed at this point is vastly overblown. The combined might of nato countries has seen a military, corporate,  and political dominance that has largely remained unchallenged since the nineties. At this point the economic threat from China may be greater but their military might still pales in comparison. Although last time I checked Russia got rid of their gulags quite a while ago while China seems to be returning to them. To be fair when it comes to imprisonment the U.S. has not really fared much better with the non violent drug crimes being turned into prison labor camps where Micheal Jordan invests into cheap manufactured goods.

 

The mainstream media is freaking out not because they hate disinformation, rather that they lost their monopoly on it.


Edited by FLASHINGROOSTER, 07 May 2021 - 11:07 AM.





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