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First Panaeolus Grow in a Monotub?


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#1 PaceArrow

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 04:46 PM

I have spore prints of Panaeolus bisporus and Panaeolus cyanescens Peace River showing up next week and I am researching and preparing for their arrival. This will be my first time growing Pans, and I am excited. 

 

In terms of inoculation of spawn, should I make and inoculate the spawn substrate with a liquid culture or with an agar wedge? 

 

Is it possible to successfully fruit Pans in a monotub without the need for a separate humidifier? I'm trying to keep this first grow as simple and inexpensive as possible. Or am I significantly better off using a mini-greenhouse like this: https://www.amazon.c...SNF127C60&psc=1

 

I left out questions about your favorite spawn and bulk substrates because I know that info is available in many other threads about growing Pans. But if you want to share anyway, then I welcome your input!

 

Thanks much. 


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Posted 23 April 2021 - 05:12 PM

Definitely start on agar. If you choose to go LC after that see Asura’s thread. See it anyway really. https://mycotopia.ne...lus-cyanescens/

Substrate of choice is horse manure and straw and maybe vermiculite.

Monotubs have different designs. There are 4 important factors to getting pans to fruit: temperature 75F-79F 77F is the sweet spot, moist casing (you don’t want the casing, which is very very thin, to get very dry), EVAPORATION is what causes pans to pin so you have to keep the casing moist while allowing moisture to evaporate from the surface, and finally FAE. You want all the fresh air you can manage while still doing the other things and keeping the humidity relatively high. Yoshitrainer has a great little FC design he uses also with a lot of success.

In practice pans can handle much lower RH than cubes before they stress and even more before they die. They can also deal with very wet subs IF they are allowed plenty of evaporation. You ll have to fan a lot or do something like crack the lid and have a fan stirring the air or modify a tub that lets air transfer.

If it were me I’d at least build a Shadowbox https://mycotopia.ne...-grow-tutorial/

Definitely come join us in the “official” pan thread for the best answers from the people that grow know what they are talking about. I’m not one of those people, but I pretend to be on the internet! https://mycotopia.ne...naeolus-thread/

Good luck!

EDIT: for completeness’s sake, here is my fast a dirty way to grow pans, but I have an automated setup. https://mycotopia.ne...ns-for-dummies/

And this is JOC who is a master like Asura and he has a lot to say about fruiting chambers etc here. I am definitely not on those guys level. https://mycotopia.ne...58-joc-pan-tek/ In fact I kind suck at it which is why I wrote up my process that finally worked for me just to give people something maybe less intimidating and less technical.

Edited by Jrotten, 23 April 2021 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 06:06 PM

Jrotten, thanks so much for your generous reply!


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Posted 24 April 2021 - 02:16 AM

Have you seen this thread by PeaceFrog? A great read!

https://mycotopia.ne...g/#entry1274019
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