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#1 MushLuvR

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 10:23 AM

Hey All,

 

  I needed my own spot here on Topia' so this is like my (thread)Home away from Home.  I didn't know where to post, but I'm new to the site, but not to growing mushrooms.  A little bit about myself, my first step towards growing the Magic was back in 97(ish) early 98 maybe.  I was in my early twenties and of course, reading High Times every chance I had, I ran across that old school Homestead Kit with Spores/Agar combination.  Of course I Failed, I had NO idea about anything, and FUBAR'd the Agar and that was that(should of ordered more AGAR, but again, GREENhorn).  I had no patience back then, partying all the time(lost my best friend at 19)... chasing women, and generally not giving AF.  Selfish, Stubborn, I can Go on and on about myself, but I won't(self reflection... takes time).  So a few years pass, didn't even think about that old Homestead Kit, had a shroom hook up of Cubes and Liberty Caps from up north so it was not an issue and growing them didn't even cross the mind.  A few more years pass on and it gets a little harder to find decent mushies, had a trip that was bunk(little body high if that) and stomach pains which were excruciating(you could imagine the intensified situation, another friend hurled).  Anyway, I didn't do any for awhile after that nonsense, and I decided to get back to researching getting spores and I was able to find syringes this time.  This is around 04/05 when I started growing Cannabis indoor and had been growing outside for some time(half a decade or so).  Back on track, so I picked up two syringes, one was Creeper and the other I believe was Palenque.  I went a different route early on than most people do, I went straight to WBS and bought a pressure cooker right of the bat.  I was shopping one day for groceries with the wifey and they had a Presto 16 quart bobber style only(no gauge) for 39.99(that has SO many runs on and I still use it to this day, no change of gasket yet either) during the offseason of canning on sale discounted from 49.99(I bought a tiny PC back in 97/98, but it was small and LONG gone).  Now I have a big piece of the puzzle, now it's time to put it all together.  I commence making some old school Tyvek lids with some permatex(already had in the toolbox since I've done plenty of water pump swaps, timing chains... MOPAR Hot Rods for Life) for an injection port.  Ugly as Sin those lids were, but functionality wise, worked like a charm(for one cycle, Tyvek is a patch or temporary, next step, Polyfil).  So, I finally get the syringes, I have the lids and WBS with the pressure cooker, it's a GO. I prep the WBS(soaked/simmer which later I realized is overkill) and PC for 100 minutes, I don't have a gauge and I wanted to make sure I get a full 90 minutes(nervous rookie) or more with Grains.  So I get the grains cool to shoot some spores and hit all 7 jars with the Creeper.  Again, in these days, I did shit my own way and found a still room and flame sterilized the needle and went to work.  I do everything now in a SAB, but you can shoot open Air, it's just not something I promote.  Keep in mind, I had NO expectations of what this was going to turn out like or into.  Low and behold, the syringes were clean and I went 7 of 7.  I expected to lose a few or maybe all of them from inoculant contamination or maybe my sterilization procedures, but that never crossed my mind since 100 minutes is a long time and I know people go 60 with success.  At this point, I run out and buy a big tub, drill some holes in it and pasteurize some Coco/Verm(not a fan of the bucket "tek" or even the word "tek"... and I feel like it enables new growers to learn the wrong way, but that's my opinion, have I done CVG in a bucket, of course, it's the scientist in me... always down to experiment).  Nowadays I go against the grain, I get H Manure for nothing and  always have leftover Straw from a bale that costs maybe 11 bucks.  Side tracked again, damn Lemon Kush, so I mix up the CV with the 7 quarts and just throw it in the closet with a blanket over it(hiding from wife... SHHH).  The holes are taped and the lid provides GE so I literally just forget about it for 6 or 7 days.  Something triggered me to check on it, but I can't remember what(which is weird since my memory is Amazing) so I remove the blanket and she is fully white and colonized.  At this point, I'm amazed to get this far with the tub and now I have to figure out where to fruit it.  So I find a spot in one of my closets and I had a 5000K bulb at the time starting seedlings and grabbed a timer and set it to 12/12.  I realized pretty fast that the Air holes I drilled aren't enough, so I had to manually fan a few times a day.  Small holes too tight of Poly equals NO bueno.  Knowing what I know now, I would of just flipped the lid or left it off for awhile, but when your nervous nelly and it's all on the line.... just didn't have the experience to make that call.  Not quite a set it and forget it, but it worked out and I ended up with almost 6 zips(more than I ever expected to have) from the 7 myco quarts of WBS which isn't stellar for 7 quarts, but at this point, I'm a young man that just grew his first fruits and couldn't be happier.  I personally, didn't like the Creeper, weird (anxiety come up) and generally just different.  I put everything up for about a year or so and go back to normal life stuff.  I get rid of some, do a few and it's time to break out the Palenque syringe.  Lather, Rinse, Repeat... things go well and 6 of 7 WBS jars are good, 1 didn't look right(again, knowing what I know now it was just slight bruising) and do it all over again.  At this point, I get just over 6 zones and I'm over the rest of that Creeper and I dump them(I've done this a few times over the years).  This round, I go about 2 years or so, again, just shooting spores and not backing up anything, NO prints, just a slacker squirting his Load.  :biggrin:

 

Fast forward many many years and I finally decided to step up my game and tackle some edible blocks and start working in a SAB along with AGAR work and LC experience.  Now, I'm organized and I back up everything on AGAR or Prints for long term.  I haven't done any slants, but I'm not at that point where I want to keep it for a longer period of time.  I'm working with PAN AGAR and many PE's(too many edibles as well) just having a blast at this point.  I always tell people who are first jumping into growing, get a harvest first(don't do too much micro managing and follow directions when following someone else's success) and then start experimenting or continue  your experience, once you have a jar full of mush, if you lose, you still have some FUN(gi) in a jar waiting to be played with.  That's my intro, time to go check on the two jars pasteurizing for casing.  


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Posted 16 July 2021 - 10:37 AM

WELCOME !

 

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 10:40 AM

WELCOME !

 

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Thank you so Much, so far the experience has been wonderful and l like the VIBES here.  I appreciate the reply friend of Topia'.   :meditate:

 

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 10:46 AM

Please explore some of the various archives ....all kinds interesting knowledge .


If your enjoying the vibe you might consider Contacting coors mikey to make a small donation ...

Become a VIP GOLD MEMBER !...........and i don't mean Austin Powers Gold Member huh huh !
.you get few more privileges like VIP Market place for trades or the Super groovy CHAT


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Posted 16 July 2021 - 10:53 AM

I've been lurking and growing for years, the CHAT could be a cool option, but I can't trade which sucks, it's one of my pitfalls being where I am.  I can send, but can't receive if that makes sense.   :laugh:



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Posted 16 July 2021 - 10:57 AM

were are you ..Prison ? Mom's basement ? sometimes i think i'm funny ! heh

 

  i have traded with  several country's on three 4 continents  ?

 

trades/contests / auctions /give-aways ect.  of legal plants / cactus / seeds / spores magic and medicinal or gourmet  cultures /glassware ect .

 

I bett here is somebody i forgot to mail something to no doubt ..heh  better PM Me .i'm old n forgetful not a flake ha

 

i look good for 103

 

BEZ


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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:07 AM

Prison, would be my guess.

 

Welcome, bud. I'm a noob myself.


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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:17 AM

Alright, I'm calling this the EZ way to Pasteurize(Anything).  No TEKS NO BS just straight to the point.
 

I prefer jars, faster process and reusable and cool fast.  I have pasteurized in a Unicorn bag, but it takes over Double the timeframe(and way longer to cool them).

 

In my case or this case?  I am pasteurizing casing for two Pan trays and a Pan Cinct tub.  As follows:

 

1 Myco quart of Peat Moss(crazy cheap for 3 or 4 cf)

1 Myco quart of (I use medium) Verm buy in bulk it's cheaper, also used for Organic gardens and lasts a long time

1 Eyeballed amount of Calcium Carb(Aka Oyster Shell Flour..) half a handful or where it looks greyish brown

 

This will make 2 Myco quarts of casing.

 

Use your PC or a big Pot and bring the water temperature up to 170(ish), this shouldn't take long.. 8 minutes on my 220 Electric Stove.

Leave on the burner(after turning off) and put on the lid and set a timer for 40 minutes. Walk away and wait for your timer to go off.  Once timer goes off

Turn on the heat while you are checking the sub temp, which is always at or near 140, but usually OVER at this point.  Set timer for 60-90(I like 90 personally) minutes

and turn off heat put on the lid.  

 

Simple as that, I consistently finish around 151 to 155F or roughly 68C 

 

Pull the jars from the water, slap on your jar lid and let cool for 1.5 to 2 hours and ready to go.  

 

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:24 AM

were are you ..Prison ? Mom's basement ? sometimes i think i'm funny ! heh

 

  i have traded with  several country's ?

 

trades/contests / auctionns /give-aways ect.  of legal plants / cactus / seeds / spores magic and medicinal or gourmet  cultures /glassware ect .

 

there is somebody i forgot to mail something to no dought ..bheh  better PM Me .i'm old n forgetful not a flake ha

 

i look good for 103

 

BEZ

Not Prison(only a few overnighters thankfully)... freakin dyin' laughing though(a good sense of humor is always a plus).  I'm in one of the rough states regarding spores.  On paper, all the way illegal, in reality, NOBODY gives AF.  



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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:26 AM

Prison, would be my guess.

 

Welcome, bud. I'm a noob myself.

You triggered a memory of my wife showing me this guys Tic Toc from prison and has a TON of followers, WILD times my fungus friend.  

 

Umm, more like new to the SITE(noob for sure), but thank you for the Welcome nonetheless.  



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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:39 AM

So I've grown many different ways(and or styles), old popcorn ($5) can from Christmas, even in an old Coffee container.  I realized a long time ago that I grow simply for the thrill of growing.. not necessarily for the bountiful amounts of fruits(that will just happen with success).  I've done flipped lids, bags with holes, Martha, Mono's, but NOW I'm finally doing a Dub Tub.  Things are going well and it's Day 3.  

 

Here is the progression of the Tub.

 

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Ape Tub Day 3 filling in a few spots 

 

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:49 AM

i have LEGALLY NEVER BEEN Arrested ...........i got a Pardon from the Governor ha ha cost me a lot $ $ and letter of apology from the head of the State Troopers ....but i had to drop my $3,000,000 law suet 

  i really would of  liked the dough ha

 

I ,never made it to the Jail my MOM was a Guineas  ...

So 7pm Friday night i call her ,,SHE Shows up within an hour  !

She brought a judge with her .  She went to the judges home and talked her into  coming to the Sheriffs office .

The judge was pissed at the Trooper  and  gave me a10% $200 bond and waved cash only payment Made them take $20 counter check. .On a Friday night awsome .

i was 17 when this happened many decades ago .

 

THANKS MOM


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Posted 16 July 2021 - 11:50 AM

some good ideas MuushLuvR


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Posted 16 July 2021 - 12:18 PM

i have LEGALLY NEVER BEEN Arrested ...........i got a Pardon from the Governor ha ha cost me a lot $ $ and letter of apology from the head of the State Troopers ....but i had to drop my $3,000,000 law suet
i really would of liked the dough ha

I ,never made it to the Jail my MOM was a Guineas ...
So 7pm Friday night i call her ,,SHE Shows up within an hour !
She brought a judge with her . She went to the judges home and talked her into coming to the Sheriffs office .
The judge was pissed at the Trooper and gave me a10% $200 bond and waved cash only payment Made them take $20 counter check. .On a Friday night awsome .
i was 17 when this happened many decades ago .

THANKS MOM

Wow, that's a crazy ASS story man... I appreciate you sharing. I ended up in County at 20 years of age over my stupid friends(girls) that were drunk and disorderly(tried to tell them to go in the house... do people listen in general.. FACK No). I tried to mediate and diffuse the situation(that's just who I am) and well... he(cop) sprayed me down like a feral dog since he was alone and outnumbered. Then he kicks my legs out from underneath me and that just set me off. I'm like... I'm handling being sprayed well, starry blurry vision but I can see and I'm spitting mucous like you wouldn't believe, obviously not happy, but MAN, don't F'n kick me while I'm already down. :deadhorse: I called that fool everything under the sun after that begging him to hit me I was so Mad. Sayin' shit like... you spray me down like a fookin' dog and kick me you dickless coward. I went off and I throw caution to the wind when I lose it. My stupid friend though, she caused it all... he tried to cuff her(I'm yelling at her to stop resisting) and she had skills and slipped the wrist(he wasn't ready for it) and spun out(technically inward), she could fight for a chick and had a good punch(I saw her one time hurt a girl so quickly her other two friends wanted NO part of it). She was crafty and got me caught up into it. And I was just getting started on a Bacardi 151 night too. Good Times! :hookah:

Haven't thought about that memory for a long time SO.... TY, always enjoy memory triggers, even if it's not a happy memory. All experience, chalk it up.

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 01:33 PM

I have to say this... I am just LuvN using Horse Manure lately for PE's and PAN's.  I went 1 to 1 ratio with the APE Dub and 5 days it was almost finished so I put it in "fruiting" conditions(I don't distinguish between fruiting vs Not, but I definitely don't go "fruiting" from spawn).  The tub received regular room light and they like it, I've grown in the dark and light and it's the age old battle.  I don't care either way, but in my experience and or observations, regular light is completely normal and possibly faster than darkness and dare I say healthier.  I say, if it's easier to hide your tub during colonization for awhile, hide it, if not, put in a closet and open the closet.  Ambient Light won't hurt a thing and it's not even a major trigger, Water and Air is more important in fruiting than Light.  I rarely fruit with a bulb anymore, unless it's in a Martha, which, in my experience produces good, but it's just not necessary(for Cubes) and seems to be overkill and I can do better in a Mono or flipped lid(I like single quart tubs lately... 2 Max) with minimal effort.  I have yet to try Pans in a Martha, once I confirm I actually have PANS, I will eventually do a PAN Only run in the Martha.  Will be well worth setting up for that Fungi Fiesta.  A couple of experimental H manure/Straw little tubs I made with the remaining spawn I had(I have one more jar with a bit of Oats left for G2G if I decide to).  All for the thrill of success.  Honestly, growing edibles just sparked something in me.  I love this GAME! 

 

MushL

 

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Bottom Shots... just under 1.5 days colonizing

 

Ok, I'm really done today, I've done too Mush!  :blink:


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Posted 17 July 2021 - 08:40 AM

Alright guys, the APE tub is looking gorgeous, gave her a light spritz this morning and a visual check(Air Exposure) and back on the DubTub goes.  I ended up casing the Pan Cinct last night, she's ready and not much has changed over the last day or two so I put her in the window for more light.  Cinct tub received regular room light same as the rest.  Mush Life.

 

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Cinct surface then Cased very lightly

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Sub thickening nicely and healthy

MushL  


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Posted 17 July 2021 - 08:58 AM

Oh I almost forgot about the little guys, doing well on Manure/Straw...

 

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Doing well, just under 2.5 Days

 

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Bottom Shots

 

 

MushL

 

 

 


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Posted 19 July 2021 - 08:56 AM

Alright guys(and gals) everything moving right along, not much to report today but... WHO doesn't like pictures?  

 

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Pan Cinct breaking through faster than the regular Pan trays. 

Looking wonderful.  

 

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APE Dub same as every morning, wake up to a little  

spritz and visual inspection.  I open the tub twice a day, nothing more. This is

5 days complete in a few hours workin' on Day 6.

 

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Pan Trays, slower than Cinct breaking through casing layer,

but if you look closely, the off white mycelium(left tray showing better) is poking it's head out. In a few hours

it will be 3 full days and the start of Day 4(Cinct is about 8 hours behind) :)

 

MushL


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Posted 19 July 2021 - 09:09 AM

I always forget about the little guys, I'm SO (Super) BAD.   :biggrin:

 

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Small amount of Oat spawn, seems to be chuggin' right

Along!


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 11:39 AM

What up everyone... all the subs are doing great, the APE is forming little knots everywhere(more so in the corners where the gaps are) and just the usual visual check and light spritz(in the morning).  The regular PAN trays are looking great, a light spritz as well for the day of evaporation and beautiful water beads.  The PAN Cinct has a PIN, crazy fast, I just spawned Friday Night around 7pm or so.  Last night was 3 full days... 3.5 days(ish) for a single PIN... Wow, is it Cinctulus, I have doubts, but I don't care, I just want to grow PANS. Initially looking at the PIN, looks like PAN Primordia, hard to get happy until I see more and bigger.  I've never seen cube mycelium look like broken twigs and very Rhizo so... I'm happy up until this point.  The struggle is worth the effort with PANS,  That being said, I have some really cool exotic Cubes coming up... just waiting on me.  Too many strains... not enough SUBS.   :laugh:

 

 

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Look Closely, Where's Waldo(the Pin) 

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