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[FLASHINGROOSTER]

So I have been wondering about Ayahuasca lately. I have tried DMT and done plenty of high dose mushroom trips and wonder how they compare.

 

Is it worth the trouble of dealing with the nausea effects? (I heard there is sublingual method out there that give no nausea  ) Or should a guy stick with LSD, boomers and DMT

 

Seems like I can down shrooms without any of the stomach trouble these days so that has been nice. I drank a 6.5 gram dry equivalent in a freshie shake on the weekend. Blended up with some Orange juice as per advice by Myc, and it was really easy to get down.

 

So you can have a long intense trip with mushrooms or acid, a short but super intense trip with DMT.

 

Where do you guys feel ayahuasca fits into the equation? More intense open eye visuals than shrooms?

[livefrom215]

I would love to try Ayahuasca and DMT... I have heard some awesome stories regarding DMT but have never been introduced to either of these. Where does one go about finding some ayahuasca? Sorry I know I didn't answer any of your questions just added a few of my own :-) How was the orange juice and freshie shake? Is the trip any different when consuming freshies? 

[Norman]

If you like high dose mushrooms you will probably like ayahuasca. They’re different but similar if that makes any sense.
The only stomach issues I’ve had were nausea that was more like motion sickness than like from food poisoning. Not really noticeable if I laid still which was about all I was capable of anyway.
It’s a much better way to experience DMT in my opinion than vaping if you have the time.

[FLASHINGROOSTER]

Right on, sounds worthy of some investigation then. You hear stories of people puking and shitting on the Aya but maybe be due to poor production methods. I got sick as fuck one time eating at a Guatemalan bbq in the middle of the jungle too.

 

Another project for me to fuck around with good stuff

 

Freshie smoothie was better than most mushroom methods of ingestion. I think they do provide a little different high, more geometric like visuals.

[viavico4]

Hi, I'm growing a variety of B+, McKennaii, and golden teachers. Meanwhile, I've found a source for the usual cubes, but perhaps some azures and cyans which I can't grow, but appreciate.

 

In reading many reports on dosing, tolerance, and frequency of ingestion, I sense  recommendations of restraint that seem like opprobrium. If we have unlimited quantity, i see no reason to hold back on daily trips unless the effects dangerously impair us or endanger others. The notion that taking large and frequent doses of mushrooms is like abusing opiates, pot, alcohol, coke, i.e. more 'recreational' drugs, is not very interesting, because the possible toxicity and incapacitation is not equivalent.

 

In a side note: As a 70+ year old, when folks discuss recent LSD use, it's very hard to believe that anyone has access to real LSD-25 anymore. It may become available again as shrinks begin to leak it out of 'therapeutic' sessions, we'll see. But with the apparent analogues and creepy research chems out there, taking anything claiming to be LSD-25 doesn't seem worth the risk.

It would be great if Owsley or Sandoz quality re-appeared. It was amazing, both useful for what folks call micro-dosing now, and for high dose/ life altering trips. For myself, high quality acid was always more clarifying than whatever was sold as mescaline, and better than barfing with peyote. I hope LSD comes back around in a pure formulation, but for now, I would advise skipping anything that claims to be LSD-25.

[Coopdog]

There IS still very good acid out there. I do not believe it is dosed in the same amounts we enjoyed in the past, but there IS good acid out there. You can buy regent testing kits fairly cheap, or the good old UV light works too, to at least make sure it is LSD. If it tastes strong of anything bitter whatever it is most likely not LSD. That being said I have had some since 2007 that is now finally degrading after being good for at least 13 years before it lost it's glow. That acid now has a bitterness to it that never was there before, and it also does not flouresce blue under a black light anymore, even though just two years ago or so it still did.

 

A kind soul took mercy on me and gifted me 14 hits of VERY good acid when I mentioned that mine had gone bad after all these years. It is still out there, and is not as rare as you think. You just need to know the right people. Not had any luck sourcing it in any quantity, but it is indeed still out there. I just don't run in the right circles anymore. You might bring it up casually to one of your 20 year old grandkids and see what pops up! lol Not even kidding man! You would definitely move up on the "Cool" scale for sure lol. 

 

At 70+ years old what the hell do ya have to lose? I absolutely LIVE for my occasional trips, and if I had not found psychedelics again, mostly from finding this site and learning about the natural ones, I probably would have jumped off this fucked up merry go round years ago. 

 

As for mescaline, what we did back in the day was NOT mescaline, unless you had a source for peyote buttons. You can buy Bridgessii, Peruvian Torch and San Pedro cactus cuttings online now and grow and keep them perfectly legally. Nobody will recognize them as psychedelics, and if you were to occasionally take a couple cuttings and make a brew, who would be the wiser? It is very discreet and you can grow them right out on the back porch and nobody will have any idea. They are beautiful ornamental cacti, and if by chance someone were to mention it, then that is a person you want to know already. Do a simple google search for Bridgessii cuttings. It is just under Peyote in mescaline content. I had to take two feet off of mine this year because some were up to my shoulders and getting hard to handle. 

 

What they told us was Chocolate Mesc or Strawberry mesc, was LSD or something similar, NOT mescaline. Mescaline is a bulky drug, even in it's extracted form, and it takes up way too much space to fit in a microdot pill like I had when I was a kid. NO WAY was that mescaline. If you make yourself up a cup of green sludge, you will have 12-20 or even more hours of pure beautiful bliss. 

 

These things are out there, and google is a wonderful thing. They can be bought and shipped to you 100% legal in most states. If you are in one of the illegal states, they will tell you. Good luck in your search brother, us old dogs got to stick together. This is a great place to settle in and read a LOT. Some amazing information here. 

Edited by Coopdog, 23 July 2021 - 01:45 AM.

[FLASHINGROOSTER]

I got into the acid game late in life, the small town sheltered me from that stuff. We drank like greasy alcoholics when we were young, I used to drink a bottle of vodka before going to the bar.... I think I might legit die if I tried to do that now

 

Funny to find out some peers that lived in the big city were doing acid in high school, back then we thought only the true drug heads could get a hold of that stuff, and here they were dosing the social teachers coffee for an afternoon joke

 

There is a bit of a stigma against pharma psychedelics. Perhaps the ability to make counterfeit product, and our lack of ability to detect one white  powder from another without a test kit it is where most of the concern comes from. The reliable stuff produces some beautiful results in my mind. I tried some of that 2CB and it was somewhere in between MDMA and ACID. Fun stuff

 

I was looking at some san pedro cuttings the other night..... I was wondering what would a guy need to buy as far as size of cuttings to be able to make a tea out of it? You see some on there, slightly smaller than a coke can for thickness and around 10" in length. I really would like to try some cactus some day but have no idea how much to buy

[el_ronhub_bird]

@FLASHINGROOSTER you'd probably be better off sourcing dried San Pedro skins or powdered skins if you can. I think live plants would end up being more expensive cause they're selling the genetics not just the product. I'm still new to the game so maybe some others can chime in with better info. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth (probably a penny)

Edited by el_ronhub_bird, 23 July 2021 - 04:42 PM.

[liferider]

Hi, I'm growing a variety of B+, McKennaii, and golden teachers. Meanwhile, I've found a source for the usual cubes, but perhaps some azures and cyans which I can't grow, but appreciate.

 

In reading many reports on dosing, tolerance, and frequency of ingestion, I sense  recommendations of restraint that seem like opprobrium. If we have unlimited quantity, i see no reason to hold back on daily trips unless the effects dangerously impair us or endanger others. The notion that taking large and frequent doses of mushrooms is like abusing opiates, pot, alcohol, coke, i.e. more 'recreational' drugs, is not very interesting, because the possible toxicity and incapacitation is not equivalent.

 

In a side note: As a 70+ year old, when folks discuss recent LSD use, it's very hard to believe that anyone has access to real LSD-25 anymore. It may become available again as shrinks begin to leak it out of 'therapeutic' sessions, we'll see. But with the apparent analogues and creepy research chems out there, taking anything claiming to be LSD-25 doesn't seem worth the risk.

It would be great if Owsley or Sandoz quality re-appeared. It was amazing, both useful for what folks call micro-dosing now, and for high dose/ life altering trips. For myself, high quality acid was always more clarifying than whatever was sold as mescaline, and better than barfing with peyote. I hope LSD comes back around in a pure formulation, but for now, I would advise skipping anything that claims to be LSD-25.

i can confirm coopdogs response. there is still good LSD around. these days it is very easy for an individual to have their drugs tested through multiple methods. there are even labs that will test for you using high end equipment, some for free.