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#1 Paradoc

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 03:55 PM

I’ve been using pf tek cakes in a humidity controlled setup.
I just picked up a cake (sitting on its cover) and saw a small black bug under the cap.
In fact, of the 9 cakes in there, I saw 1 or 2. (Only 1 bug per cake) I’m doing B+ and Teachers as always, but this is new.
*Ive noticed Nothing weird about the fruits from them all...but AM a bit concerned.

Anyone else ever get this?
I’ve been doing this for almost a year and a half and NEVER saw this before.

TWO main questions:
*What could they be? I have the top on my grow chamber most all the time and it’s inside
*should I clean out the tub & get new perlite?

Any comments on this are welcome. I’m stumped

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Posted 10 October 2021 - 06:29 PM

Are they mites? Probably whole set up will be infested. It's usually them migrating from outside to feast on the myc. Heard they are the most common bug we deal with. 


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Posted 10 October 2021 - 08:24 PM

I thought fungus gnats were our most common gnemesis?
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Posted 10 October 2021 - 11:24 PM

The only bugs I've personally had trouble with indoors are gnats.


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 06:44 AM

Both are pretty common I feel. Mites less common, but once they get there. Sorry.

 

https://en.agaricus..../mushroom-flies

https://en.agaricus..../diseases/mites


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 08:41 AM

I've had fungus gnats from too wet of conditions(rarely, but happens)... more than likely that's what it is.  


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 10:19 AM

"Small black bug" -

Perhaps you could help us out with a pic or a more detailed description.

Is this a beetle - with a hard shell? Shiny black? .5mm - 1mm in length? .......... etc.

 

I've seen some tiny black beetles infesting a polypore while mushroom hunting in the wild. The same type of beetle tends to infect cauliflower and broccoli plants in my area. A quick search located this:

https://agresearch.m...SUFactSheet.pdf

I wonder how these compare to your bugs.


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 05:34 PM

Both are pretty common I feel. Mites less common, but once they get there. Sorry.
 
https://en.agaricus..../mushroom-flies
https://en.agaricus..../diseases/mites


Thanx for this resource. I apologize for not adding a photo but as I mentioned there are (fortunately) NOT that many of them.

. Of the Two? I’d say they look like a small beetle. But not Flies and Gnot Gnats

These have been inside the whole time and based on other comments I think I’ve OVER saturated the perlite and, yes, it IS too moist as MushLovR mentioned. My RH/Temp gauge is on the way out after I dropped it into water by accident.

As a Solution;
Tomorrow I’ll take all my cakes out & START Over & do it all again & using the extra perlite I bought but not overdoing it.

NOTE:
None of the fruits have been “chewed on” or affected in any noticeable way.

Much Thanx to everyone who commented and helped.

I’ll try to get 1 or 2 to photographs before I start over.
There may be a lesson in this somewhere...I know it’s a lesson to me.

Peace all
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Posted 11 October 2021 - 05:39 PM

I've eaten a lot of mushrooms right out of the field, and a few bugs dont scare me none.  If you're worried about an infestation, I would quarantine this part of your grow, but if it were me I would still grow it out and take what it gives.  Just my opinion,  do what you think is right.

 

Good grow vibes to you, no matter your choice :)


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#10 Paradoc

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 06:08 PM

For those more experienced than myself...Regarding the small black bugs I’ve poorly described...
I really thought I’ve seen 1 of these INSIDE the brf -jar WHILE IT was colonizing some time ago.
Because I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me? I didn’t pay any attention. Chalking it up to Insomnia-eyes.

Looks more like a *flea-beetle, but has no pinchers in back...

Just remembered this minor detail.
But tomorrow I’ll start over...and try to get a pic or 2
Again, Thanx all
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Posted 11 October 2021 - 07:33 PM

I've eaten a lot of mushrooms right out of the field, and a few bugs dont scare me none.

 

Good grow vibes to you, no matter your choice :)

After all, they (the bugs) were eating what you're about to eat so..............I'm in total agreement. They're like poppy seeds. ;)


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Posted 11 October 2021 - 07:56 PM

They're like poppy seeds. ;)

Hahahaha....protein supplement...wild Hen of the Woods has plenty o protein

Doing woodlovers outdoors one just gets used to bugs....any infestations indoors becomes outdoors right quick..

Poppy seeds.....nice!

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Edited by Arathu, 11 October 2021 - 08:11 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2021 - 09:00 PM

Myc, Arathu, Juthro...I hearYa....Since my terrarium setup is not a monotub but rather, separate cakes, I’m in no danger of losing anything. I’ll simply remove the cakes and just clean out the plastic grow chamber tub. Remove, clean & Replace the perlite. NONE of my cakes or fruits from them have been even slightly infested or affected.
I’ve pulled 35 grams-Dried-off’em thus far and I m only on my First Flush.. yet to RE soak
Being honest, I was not aware of any drawbacks to having “too much” moisture but it’s apparent a few bugs may appear.
This month marks my 19th month as a *shroomist. I began this as a hobby and it’s turned into much more than that..
THIS project is My 9th in that time. I’ve had ONE error. Totally my fault.(faulty sterilization in inoculation)

My initial concern in asking this question was;
Is this VERY Bad?....(not really in my case)
How do I deal with this?...(clean out the tub, use fresh perlite-replace cakes)
And as usual I found assistance here. Once again.

Thanx to all
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