


Posted 07 November 2021 - 03:22 PM
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Posted 07 November 2021 - 04:24 PM
Did you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
Posted 07 November 2021 - 04:50 PM
Maybe it is up to debate depending on who you ask, but in most cases it seems most ideal to pasteurize the substrate rather than sterilizing. This is to retain good, non-threatening bacteria to help prevent undesired molds to thrive in the substrate. in my slow cooker dedicated to pasteurizing, leaving it on the 'Keep Warm' setting maintains around 170~172 degrees. I like using it because it's more convenient than a hot water bath on the stove where I have to monitor the temp and kick the flame on and off to maintain good pasteurization range.. very A.D.D. proof which is what I need lmao.
Posted 07 November 2021 - 05:51 PM
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Posted 08 November 2021 - 09:21 AM
Posted 08 November 2021 - 10:42 AM
So I have a nock off instapot. I did a round of agar jars in it and it seems to have done the trick. I ran a double cycle on the highest PC setting it had. I have not tried any grain spawn in it as it wont hold much and I purchased a 220v electric burner for my PC which I run in the garage which is almost as easy as the instapot.
I think if your in a pinch the instapot would probably be ok, but the Presto 01781 is about the best bang for the buck IMO. I fortunately had both before I got into the hobby. When it has come to bulk sub I use the method here, but with a Still Air Box for the transfer. Its a little cramped in my box, but it works.
Posted 08 November 2021 - 10:58 AM
Both. Along w LC, jars w/ popcorn. It reaches 12 psi so maybe I'd just need to run it for an extra hour.... just until I can get a decent 20QT Pressure CannerDid you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
Posted 08 November 2021 - 11:07 AM
Lol I heard that man! Lmao.Maybe it is up to debate depending on who you ask, but in most cases it seems most ideal to pasteurize the substrate rather than sterilizing. This is to retain good, non-threatening bacteria to help prevent undesired molds to thrive in the substrate. in my slow cooker dedicated to pasteurizing, leaving it on the 'Keep Warm' setting maintains around 170~172 degrees. I like using it because it's more convenient than a hot water bath on the stove where I have to monitor the temp and kick the flame on and off to maintain good pasteurization range.. very A.D.D. proof which is what I need lmao.
Posted 08 November 2021 - 05:01 PM
I've hydrated popcorn and now it's in a couple jars in the digital pc w the metal lids upside-down and foil over the tops. 20min in the digital pc and the popcorn grains were perfectly hydrated just like I see in all the YouTube vids. Hoping the Jars come out well sterilized. I think I am inoculating w pe spores maybe Burma or Columbian. Haven't decided yet. I only did 2 - 1 pint jars. I really wanted to try taking some of the mycelium growth in the agar trays. They aren't fully colonized. The spotty one is the pe and the big growth is the Burma. Would it be ok to cut a few chunks and toss them in the popcorn?Lol I heard that man! Lmao.Maybe it is up to debate depending on who you ask, but in most cases it seems most ideal to pasteurize the substrate rather than sterilizing. This is to retain good, non-threatening bacteria to help prevent undesired molds to thrive in the substrate. in my slow cooker dedicated to pasteurizing, leaving it on the 'Keep Warm' setting maintains around 170~172 degrees. I like using it because it's more convenient than a hot water bath on the stove where I have to monitor the temp and kick the flame on and off to maintain good pasteurization range.. very A.D.D. proof which is what I need lmao.
Posted 08 November 2021 - 08:19 PM
Posted 08 November 2021 - 08:27 PM
You could inoculate with some of those samples, but it might be more fruitful in the long run to wait a little bit and do some transfers and let those grow out on the other plates and then use those. You will have more spawned cultures to work with and inoculate more jars with, and probably see more consistent and stable results when you get there.
Posted 08 November 2021 - 08:55 PM
You might want to look at whole grains like oats or rye to make the spawn. Its typically allot cheaper and easier to hydrate.Both. Along w LC, jars w/ popcorn. It reaches 12 psi so maybe I'd just need to run it for an extra hour.... just until I can get a decent 20QT Pressure CannerDid you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
Posted 08 November 2021 - 09:02 PM
The popcorn hydrated perfectlyYou might want to look at whole grains like oats or rye to make the spawn. Its typically allot cheaper and easier to hydrate.Both. Along w LC, jars w/ popcorn. It reaches 12 psi so maybe I'd just need to run it for an extra hour.... just until I can get a decent 20QT Pressure CannerDid you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
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Posted 08 November 2021 - 09:05 PM
I will get rye berries and try that. I want to mix and match many things. I just got the show on the road on the 24th of Oct so Im newbie so far.You might want to look at whole grains like oats or rye to make the spawn. Its typically allot cheaper and easier to hydrate.Both. Along w LC, jars w/ popcorn. It reaches 12 psi so maybe I'd just need to run it for an extra hour.... just until I can get a decent 20QT Pressure CannerDid you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
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Posted 08 November 2021 - 09:21 PM
Idk why the hell I sent my bp readings lol.I will get rye berries and try that. I want to mix and match many things. I just got the show on the road on the 24th of Oct so Im newbie so far.You might want to look at whole grains like oats or rye to make the spawn. Its typically allot cheaper and easier to hydrate.Both. Along w LC, jars w/ popcorn. It reaches 12 psi so maybe I'd just need to run it for an extra hour.... just until I can get a decent 20QT Pressure CannerDid you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
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Posted 08 November 2021 - 09:22 PM
This is what I meant to shareIdk why the hell I sent my bp readings lol.I will get rye berries and try that. I want to mix and match many things. I just got the show on the road on the 24th of Oct so Im newbie so far.You might want to look at whole grains like oats or rye to make the spawn. Its typically allot cheaper and easier to hydrate.Both. Along w LC, jars w/ popcorn. It reaches 12 psi so maybe I'd just need to run it for an extra hour.... just until I can get a decent 20QT Pressure CannerDid you want to sterilize sub-straight or Pasteurize sub-straight ?
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Posted 09 November 2021 - 08:54 AM
Thanks!!You certainly could. Got more of the spores?
If not transfer a little to new agar before you put it in the jar. Or start an LC with a piece. In case the grow fails you still got the genetics.
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