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#1 Coopdog

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 02:52 AM

So tonight I put in 3 hits of good blotter in some cooking sherry, then life interrupted and I ended up being a couple hours too late to trip tonight. I have been just dying to try the LSD to ALD52 conversion, and damn I hope I did not waste this good blotter. I figure at worst it will still be good for the acid part of it if I save it for tomorrow night. Now it's a quarter to 12 midnight and I waited too long to get this done tonight. 

 

Tregar, anyone with the chemistry knowledge to answer this I would love to know that if I freeze this (it's now in the freezer) It will still pay out tomorrow or the next night. I figure the acidity won't mess it up, but I hope the Acetaldehyde doesn't gas off and leave it as regular acid. That's ok, because it is good, but hoping I didn't mess up this ALD52 experience. Either way tomorrow or the next night it's on regardless. Tonight things came up. Anyone??? Has anyone tried this yet?


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 05:59 AM

I have absolutely no experience with these LSD analogues, but I do have a B.Sc. in Biology with a Chemistry minor ;)

As long as it's tightly sealed in the freezer and in a small container with little headspace the acetaldehyde won't be be able to gas off very much. Just make sure there's barely any air above the sample and you should be good, in theory......

Good luck and good journeying when you get around to testing this G-dly Potion!

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#3 FLASHINGROOSTER

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 05:21 PM

Shit, good luck Coop, let us know how it goes

 

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 06:31 PM

Gotta cook dinner, then it's off to the races lol. I will let ya know how it goes. 

 

Kind of surprised nobody has posted about this yet. The write up that Tregar did on it was nothing short of fascinating, and it is such a simple thing to do, that I figured there would be a dozen trip reports on it. I figured this would be the new biggest thing out there! 


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 06:42 PM

Yes Coopdog, you can freeze it, will keep forever that way. Remember once in fridge, to stir for 1 minute every hour for 3 hours, then consume. LSD converts to 1-acetaldehyde LSD, just like ALD-52 but with one extra hydrogen on the indole nitrogen. Yes, acetaldehyde boils off at 70 degree F, so keep in fridge or freezer until you drink. 

 

In the future, if you get a chance, combine the 1-acetaldehyde LSD (essentially ald-52) with 200mg or more of THH, every 2 weeks, I combine 300ug 1-acetaldehyde LSD with 300mg pure THH, see here:

 

Trip report: 500 mg mescaline citrate, 200 mg THH, plus recycling - Experience reports - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

Phenomenal experience, as tetrahydroharmine is like the betacarboline version of mescaline, the combo feels like an ald-52 + mescaline experience, love it so much, and done it over 10 times every 2 weeks already. highly recommend. 


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#6 Coopdog

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Posted 29 December 2021 - 08:38 PM

Thank you for taking a minute to answer Tregar. About 7 I am going up, so I will report back in Storming the gates when I get done. Have a good night. 


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 09:16 PM

Kind of afraid to ask this, but what is recycling?



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Posted 30 December 2021 - 10:51 AM

Gotta cook dinner, then it's off to the races lol. I will let ya know how it goes. 

 

Kind of surprised nobody has posted about this yet. The write up that Tregar did on it was nothing short of fascinating, and it is such a simple thing to do, that I figured there would be a dozen trip reports on it. I figured this would be the new biggest thing out there! 

 

If it was summarized for the simple folk it would get more attention. So all you have to do is mix acid and sherry wine?


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Posted 31 December 2021 - 02:11 AM

Yes, it needs to be a freshly opened bottle of COLD sherry cooking wine, and it needs to stay cold for a couple hours just stirring it a few times. The magic is very strong in this mix, and you will have one hell of a beautiful night. Just keep it cold, and don't even hesitate to try this. You will NOT be sorry. Word needs to get out about this simple way to improve your blotter. Very surprised it is not all over every place where the acid flows. This was a beautiful thing indeed


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Posted 31 December 2021 - 09:19 AM

Yes Flashingrooster, good to see you again!, Just like Coopdog describes....this is all explained here on post #284 with trip reports from others (see Namaste's trip report):

 

HPBCD DMT part 1 - Pharmahuasca - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

hxxps://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96861&p=15

 

A chemist named Vector actually confirmed this addition to the bottom indole nitrogen ring actually occurs using TLC plates taken from morning glory seed alkaloids, years after I posted this. If it happens with those alkaloids, it surely happens with LSD at the same bottom indole nitrogen. ALD-52 was also discovered by Dr. Albert Hoffman. When Sandoz labs do brain scans comparing lsd to ald-52 they found ald-52 was stronger trip and more visual, lsd caused intense concentration, but ald-52 was more relaxed like mescaline compared to LSD. 

 

Besides the wine used to convert LSD to 1-acetaldehyde LSD (very similar to ALD-52, or 1-acetyl LSD), check out the trip report in post #288 from JKW. Others are learning now of the combination of Tetrahydroharmine + LSD, mushrooms, etc. THH is not an maoi or rima but a full blow psychedelic serotonin reuptake inhibitor like mescaline, shrooms, lsd, ibogaine, phenomenal combo, been combining THH with 1-acetaldehyde LSD every 2 weeks for 8 months now, feels so much like mescaline + ald-52 combo, completely blown away, super-euphoric, neon colorful visual, zero anxiety, way more visual....music is insane sounding. 

 

See this thread, part 4: 
 
Part 4: Tetrahydroharmine receptorome similarities to mescaline; potentiates cactus & safety note (post #4)
 
hxxps://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96861

Part 4: Tetrahydroharmine receptorome similarities to mescaline; potentiates cactus & safety note
 
A little off topic, but I think tetrahydroharmine is a pretty special compound. I've used 250mg of it to potentiate cactus to very strong levels, it makes a 12" medium san pedro cactus tea which may contain around 250mg mescaline feel like an X-large 12" thick san pedro cactus containing around 400mg mescaline. It makes a 12" thick bridgesii cactus feel closer to a tea made with a 12" bridgesii cactus along with an extra 6" piece.
 
In the data I've seen for THH, it strongly blocks serotonin just like cactus, but also agonizes the adrenal A2A thru A2C receptors (the receptors associated with aesthetics & beauty), just like mescaline has been shown to do receptorome wise, explaining perhaps why they "overlap" so well. THH being able to make mescaline in cactus feel much stronger than it really is. Anyone who has ever taken cactus or high dose THH knows the appreciation for beauty experienced is "over the top".
 
But you have to stagger the THH from the cactus by taking the tetrahydroharmine around an hour after the cactus is taken, that way any minor maoi's or rima's in the cactus won't interact with the SRI which is THH, which can result in a faster heartbeat for a few hours which has happened to me before...so long as you take it later, it potentiates the cactus quite incredibly...it feels like I've taken 400mg of mescaline containing cactus tea when it's really only 250mg mescaline containing cactus, and they both lasts around 6 hours with super strong activity, so they wind down at around the same time. I have around 7 months experience combining the two, giving myself around 2 weeks apart from journeys.
 
It works so well, I won't take cactus any other way from now on. I get much more mileage from cactus this way. Visuals and visions are insane, music is so good sounding, you would think you were an alien experiencing sound and music for the very first time, every instrument stands out on it's own, like hearing a track for the very first time.

Always take the cactus tea first, then 1 hour later take the tetrahydroharmine dose, 250mg THH makes 300mg mescaline feel like 500mg mescaline, it's incredible. THH is an SRI, so always take 1st, THEN 1 hour later take the catus tea, that way any trace maoi's in san pedro, bridgesii, torch do not interact and increase blood pressure, if you stagger by one hour, pure bliss all evening, thh half life is 10.5 hour with peak at 5.25 hour, goes great with catus, lsd, or mushrooms. Best combo ever. 

 

Part 13: THH + mushrooms report from JKW:
Just wanted to let you know that I finally tried 3 grams of cubensis with 180 mg of THH, and all I can say is WOW! Intense and beautiful like I've never had before, with a definite DMT edge to it.
 
I've always been a hard-head, needing 4.5+ grams to get anywhere interesting. I've done up to 9 grams, and never got near this intensity.
 
Just wanted to thank you for the tip. This is the way for me to go form now on.
I look forward to combining THH with DMT.
 
All the best, and take care.
 

Edited by tregar, 31 December 2021 - 09:36 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2021 - 10:40 AM

I am glad other people can appreciate that stuff it is way over my head, never went very far with chemistry studies

 

This was the meat I was looking for thanks tregar, there is plenty of interesting information in there but for simple instructions this makes my brain feel better haha

 

 

Note (1): Make sure your sherry wine is fresh & cold before you use it, it contains 10 mg acetaldehyde per 30ml or 1 shot glass. Acetaldehyde boils off at 68 degrees F, or slightly below room temp, so keep one shot glass of it in fridge at all times until you consume.

Note (2): There is a less than ten dollar wine preservation canister available that will prevent oxidation of the wine, instead a bottle of sherry wine will last several months instead of just a few days. This way the natural precious high levels of acetaldehyde in the sherry wine will not oxidize to acetic acid over several day's time. The canister replaces the oxygen that seeps into an open bottle with a balanced mixture of carbon dioxide, nitrogen and argon to keep wine fresh: just look up "private preserve wine preservation system", less than ten dollars, *mazon and others carry it.

step 1) Fill a shot glass up all the way with dry fridge cold just-opened fresh sherry wine. Sherry wine is already at ph=4 which is what study calls for, and contains the acetaldehyde (5mg avg. per 15ml) we need like the study.

step 2) Drop 2 hits of 100ug acid (or your preferred dosage) into shot glass.

step 3) Put a foil cover tightly on shot glass and let sit in fridge. I like to use a double size shot glass so that when I swirl the contents, no spill over. You can swirl by hand or use end of a spoon to stir.

step 4) Swirl the shot glass once per hour for at least 30 seconds, the researchers used a stir mantel in the fridge, and achieved 100% new product creation in 1.5 hour, but since we are not using a stir mantle, swirl once per hour. This works just as well, trust me.

step 5) After 3 hours sitting in fridge, consume, sit back & enjoy the brand new experience of 1-acetaldehyde LSD, or what is similar to ALD-52 with one extra hydrogen at the bottom indole NH group.

 

Think I can handle mixing up some shots of cold sherry wine and few tabs of acid however. Okay now I am excited to try this, thanks gents.

 

Too bad my stash is low, time to go shopping


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Posted 31 December 2021 - 10:47 AM

One more question, can you use too much wine?

 

I mean once the bottle is open...


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Posted 31 December 2021 - 11:16 AM

One more question, can you use too much wine?

 

I mean once the bottle is open...

I would imagine that your dilution calculations will be more complicated but it shouldn't hurt anything. You'll just be drinking a larger volume of sherry.

 

This is blowing my mind. I may try this with hard apple cider - which contains both alcohol and acetyl aldehyde. Was thinking about putting 25 hits or so into a pint of beverage. Refrigerator, stir bar, stir plate - let it sit for the requisite amount of time. Share doses with a crowd of friends. Lights - music - dancing - just like back in the good 'ol days.

 

Thanks for bringing this up Coop. Thanks for asking for clarification Rooster.


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Posted 03 January 2022 - 11:16 PM

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Posted 04 January 2022 - 02:12 PM

 

One more question, can you use too much wine?

 

I mean once the bottle is open...

I would imagine that your dilution calculations will be more complicated but it shouldn't hurt anything. You'll just be drinking a larger volume of sherry.

 

This is blowing my mind. I may try this with hard apple cider - which contains both alcohol and acetyl aldehyde. Was thinking about putting 25 hits or so into a pint of beverage. Refrigerator, stir bar, stir plate - let it sit for the requisite amount of time. Share doses with a crowd of friends. Lights - music - dancing - just like back in the good 'ol days.

 

Thanks for bringing this up Coop. Thanks for asking for clarification Rooster.

 

My brain is weird. Why I would not think to just drink the extra wine separate if my plan was to finish the bottle is beyond me. No lets complicate things with my crack pot idea haha. Stick to the directions Rooster life is easier that way


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Posted 06 January 2022 - 10:14 AM

No, you can't use too much wine, I use 1/2 to 1 shot per how every many hits you want to add into it. I pour off 1 shot of just opened cold sherry wine into a tiny jar,
add 3 hits LSD, put lid on jar, place jar into fridge, shake or stir for 1 minute every hour, do this every hour for 3 hours, after 3 hours, drink cold wine. Re-seal your wine using a wine preservation canister, pharmer and myself by these, they are only ten bucks, last all year. put wine back into fridge after sealing with the gas, prevents oxygen from turning the precious acetaldehyde in the wine to vinegar, keeps wine potent forever this way. 
 
this really works, I use 300ug of 1-acetaldehyde LSD + 300ug pure THH taken at the same time every 2 weeks, trip my ass off with zero anxiety, feels so much like high dose mescaline but dirt cheap. Good luck. Be weary of the china made THH from *liftmmode, it does not glow blue like pure THH is supposed to according to a few people at nexus, that means it is contaminated with un-converted harmaline, the link below, shows how to make pure THH real easy from harmaline you can buy on-line, go to post #1 to find the section on THH. 
 
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Part 15: How to theoretically form 1-acetaldehyde LSD (similar to ALD-52 or 1-acetyl LSD, Orange Sunshine) from LSD hits
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