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Journal: 50 Sublingual HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca journeys over a years time


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#21 tregar

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Posted 02 July 2022 - 08:23 AM

idonknow1 said:
Looks like you've been banned from the Nexus...they're calling you a fraud/hockster. Say it isn't so Joe.
 
Hello my friend idontknow1. Apparently, my friend downwardsfromzero (the old moderator) has dissappeared since June 20th, never to be seen again, and a real turd took over:
 
I assure you I am not 69ron. I have the deepest respect for him and his posts however, I was around when THH was sold by Flowing Visions, and even bought several hundred dollars of it, as I found it that good, to me it was very close to 100% pure, never any issues..and believe that whoever ran the "so called tests" on it must have been using some amateur equipment, as THH can easily show up as harmine unless you use very sophisticated thousand dollar lab style equipment to measure, similar to what Dr. Callaway used here: https://catbull.com/...a decoction.pdf
 
I did however chat with 69ron only once via chat at Mycotopia, he congratulated me on my pure white mescaline extraction, and I thanked him. That's the only contact I ever had with him. I do miss him and value all his posts, I learned a great deal from him, and found him to be very intelligent and creative, a pioneer in THH as well, as no one at the time knew how to make it easily but him.
 
At the time I bought it from flowing visions, I did not know how to make THH, it was not until years later that I figured out how to make it after many agonizing attempts. I have posted a method to make it on post #12 that unlike the Dr. Shulgin synthesis, does not use any fancy chemicals and can even be done using a cotton ball stuffed in a funnel. I wanted to create a method that anyone could use at home, not just a chemist.
 
I have no marketing agenda and sell no products, why else would I post how to make it on post #12? I am all about advancing humanity, that's it.
 
I also do not sell MK677 or a damn thing, I am a full time chemist, been a chemist & bodybuilder all my life. I would never buy any MK677 from the states or Europe, it is marked up as much as x 4 times the cost of what China sells it for.
 
Back in 2016, I found this brilliant article on MK677 on mindandmuscle.net, it has been preserved here:
 
After reading the article, 2 years later I bought some MK677 from China, and have used it ever since, and continue to buy it only from China. It's still dirt cheap from China, but here in the states it is marked up anywhere from x3 to x4 the China cost. It is available from dozens of places in China.

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Posted 02 July 2022 - 02:37 PM

Tergar  i hope they didn't remove  your info from Nexus .i haven't' looked..........are you Familiar with GORDO Tek hes a very good member here ..he has and interesting Vid on producing THH .. .I'll edit  this shortly and try add  a link to this Vid  .you and others might find it interesting .

 

NOW ......Gordo had a ggreat YOU TUBE Site with this and many other  great Vids but the politicaly correctness police banned it . i think this vid is on a google platform . if you cant acess it  i think if you read threw that post on his patreon there is anothere back up on another vid saport site .. , good luck

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https://www.patreon....uce-to-47186323

 

 

https://drive.google...EkhaU12hw3/view


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Posted 05 July 2022 - 09:25 AM

It should be obvious from my screen name that I am tregar, been at Shroomery since 2004. Mycotopia and Bluelight.org as tregar since 2004 as well. Don't let the dmt nexus new turd of a moderator Bill Cipher fool you. He is jealous of anyone that knows how to make tetrahydroharmine and will automatically label that person as 69ron since 69ron was the only one who knew how to make it a decade ago.

 

I was also known as tregar from the Nook.org, way before even Mycotopia or Shroomery, simply go to thenook.org and you will see I go way, way back. Thenook labeled me as a professional chemist, which is what I am. 

 

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I go so far back, this 10 page paper I wrote was posted in the Deep knowledge archives of Mycotopia "Lucid and visual morning glory extracts":
 
I did a recent extraction on 500 heavenly blue morning glory seeds using 1 shot of 190% everclear along with added 10mg of DL tartaric acid combined with 1 shot of Sherry wine, both everclear and wine kept cold in fridge to prevent acetaldehyde in the wine from evaporating off, as this occurs at 70 degree F. Incredible experience, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x two, this is what it felt like, more visual than acid, colored rainbows everywhere in mid-air, warping and melting of furniture, euphoria, stimulating like acid and music was just fantastic, and no anxiety or confusion like LSD....I am thinking of always combining this MG extract with my future bridgesii tea which I always take before I go to the waterpark, where I trip all morning and early afternoon long.
 
There are around 32 to 36 seeds to a gram. So 12 to 14 grams is 400 seeds to 500 seeds.
 
How this works:
"New research: Morning glory contains 5 stimulating LSD-like drugs, soluble only in wine/alcohol, only sparingly soluble in water"
 
See the posts by chemist Peter Webster, Dr. D and Stretchman in the post above "Lucid and visual mg extracts" on 2nd page who also extracted into everclear with added DL tartaric acid to convert the freebase alkaloids found in the rubbery embryo of the seeds into their salt form for better extraction and stomach absorption and had phenomenal trips. You will want to include one shot of sherry wine with your everclear, as it is high in acetaldehyde (10mg per shot) and will convert the LSA to LSH via adduct addition once you let the mixture sit in fridge for 3 hours with shaking hard for one minute once per hour. I will post pics and instructions next time I do this here below. You need to use a lot of seeds, 500 is a great dose.
 
0. Replace light bulb in garage or room lamp where you do this with a "red light bulb" found at grocery store or similar, to create low light conditions to keep fragile alkaloids from decomposing. 
1. Crush 500 seeds between a paper plate with ends folded over on cement floor using hammer
2. Put crushed seed powder in a coffee grinder and grind to dust
3. Add this seed dust to 1/2 pint jar containing 1 to 1.5 shot of 190% proof everclear + 10mg DL tartaric acid (*mazon) + 1 to 1.5 shot of sherry wine (2oz total), you can increase to 1.5 shot of both if you desire (3oz total), make sure both are fridge cold, as acetaldehyde boils off at 70 degree F or room temp, you don't want your LSH decomposing the LSA do you? 
4. Let this jar sit in fridge for at least 3 hours or longer, can even sit overnight or days, shake jar for one minute hard at least once per hour during the 3 hours.
5. Decant and Filter the cold liquid above the seed debris through a cotton ball stuffed in a funnel, the cotton will remove all the nauseating seed debris, but leave the active liquid to flow through the cotton, change out the cotton when and if it clogs, continue to filter. 
6. Freeze this liquid if you plan to use weeks later or keep in fridge at all times if you plan to use it soon (within days). Always keep cold or the acetaldehyde will boil out and the LSH will decompose to LSA.
7. Drink the liquid while it is cold only, enjoy a lucid and visual trip, imagine your best 2 hit acid trip x two. 
 
Note: DO NOT ADD MORE THAN 10mg DL tartaric acid to the 1 to 1.5 shot sherry wine + 1 to 1.5 shot everclear...too much DL tartaric acid can upset ph balance of the body and you will feel really bad...10mg will keep ph no lower than 3.5. The wine will go from natural ph=4 down to ph=3.5, but no lower. You will need a 1mg (0.001g) electronic scale to do this, like the AWS GPR-20 20g x 0.001g scale for example. It needs to be DL tartaric acid and not just plain L tartaric acid, The d-form salt is the form LSD is active as for example, not the L-form.
 
Note, very important: Cold sherry cooking wine is recommended as an extraction solution since it is already at ph=4 and is 18% alcohol, and is also very cheap ($5 per bottle). It can be found in the wine isle of any grocery store, and is often on sale. It also contains 10mg acetaldehyde per each shot (30ml). A $9 wine preserver canister can be bought at Amazon which contains a gas mixture of argon, carbon dioxide and other inert gases which can be sprayed into an open bottle of sherry wine before sealing cork to preserve the wine indefinitely in the fridge, otherwise the acetaldehyde in the wine converts to acetic acid over time, giving the wine a vinegar taste. Without the acetaldehyde kept intact, the LSA will NOT convert to LSH, so keep your wine fresh by sealing it with wine preserver gas from canister. The wine preserver contains enough gas to last for years of sealing many bottles.
 
Vecktor (advanced chemist like myself):
tregar, you have probably rediscovered something that has long been a curiosity, for example on the now defunct blacklight site there was TLC posted of morning glory seed extract treated with methanol, acetaldehyde-methanol or with acetaldehyde-methanol-water, the extract treated with acetaldehyde-methanol showed a clear difference in the alkaloid profile, with a shift to several new non polar spots which couldn't be identified. Very likely the LSA converted to LSH (LSA + acetaldehyde = LSH). IIRC Erhlichs was used to develop the plates so these were indole compounds.
 
fastandbulbous (chem wizard from bluelight):
Apparently N-(1-hydroxyethyl)lysergamide (LSH) is an adduct compound formed from lysergamide (lysergic acid amide, LSA/LAA, LA-111) and acetaldehyde. This hints towards the idea that isn't the most stable of compounds, but would be pretty easily formed by the combination of lysergamide (LSA) & acetaldehyde under physiological conditions (ie a way to get much more & better psychedelic activity from any lysergamide extracted from seed sources).
 
Chemist Peter Webster who spoke at the LSD symposium:
LSH is a labile adduct of ergine (LSA) and acetaldehyde.

Edited by tregar, 05 July 2022 - 02:40 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2022 - 02:23 AM

500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2:

https://mycotopia.ne...experience-x-2/



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Posted 23 July 2022 - 12:21 AM

Other topics you may be interested in:

1) One shot HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca, masks taste and increases absorption many factors with pics, post #42:
https://mycotopia.ne...r-tongue/page-3

2) Journal: 50 Sublingual HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca journeys over a years time with pics, post #19:
https://mycotopia.ne...r-a-years-time/
 
3) How to make THH or tetrahydroharmine with pics, post #13:
https://mycotopia.ne...e-under-tongue/
THH can be made by converting harmaline from rue seeds in 1.5 hour using vinegar, zinc dust, magnetic stirrer and 10% janitorial ammonium hydroxide from the hardware store or on-line.  

4) LSH extract Tek: 500 Heavenly blue morning glory extract in 1oz everclear + 1 oz wine, imagine your best 2 hit LSD experience x 2, post #13 with 8 pics:
https://mycotopia.ne...1oz-everclea500



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Posted 02 October 2022 - 12:07 PM

Updated for 10-2-2022 with 45 pics, all 3 topics condensed into 2 pages with complete directions: Page 8, post #141: New research: Morning glory contains 5 stimulating LSD-like drugs, soluble only in wine/alcohol, only sparingly soluble in water. - Page 8 - Botanicals - Mycotopia

 

1) Zero nausea morning glory LSH + penniclavine combo tincture based on 2022 LSH study, natural LSD

 

2) One-shot HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca, forms easily in 2 minutes on a spoon, dissolves instantly clear into 1 shot glass of microwaved hot water, absorbs 2 to 3 times better than DMT salts, just as potent as Hawaiian psychotria and completely masks the nasty DMT taste, no gastrointestinal upset or DMT burps. Just as potent and all encompassing as REAL JUNGLE AYAHUACA. Normal DMT salts absorb poorly, HPBCD is a polysaccharide with six glucose units derived from the enzymatic degradation of cornstarch, when complexed to freebase dmt, it makes the DMT not only water soluble but increases it's bioavailability similar to the way psychotria does this, increasing absorption by many factors into the intestinal tissues.

 

3) 5 sublingual HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca trip reports recorded over a year's time, formed in just 2 minutes on a spoon, absorbs in 15 minutes or less under the tongue, zero nausea or dizziness, very euphoric, 1 hour long very strong journey, a great way to re-dose a 2nd and even 3rd time (every 1 to 1.5 hour) after your original One-shot oral HPBCD DMT Ayahuasca for a 4.5 hour long very strong journey. 



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Posted 28 October 2022 - 10:02 AM

Last and final updates 10.28.2022:
 
LSH + penniclavine combo psychedelic, natural LSD: 
 
1) Zero nausea morning glory LSH + penniclavine combo tincture based on 2022 LSH study, natural LSD:
 
 
Sublingual "under the tongue" Ayahuasca: 
 
I use the sublingual HPBCD DMT weekly with zero nausea or dizziness used sublingually. Big difference compared to oral Ayahuasca which always make me feel nauseated, uncomfortable, dizzy like and with anxiety, with sublingual there is none of that. Take a look at L-dreamer's many experiences using the sublingual Ayahuasca several posts up. He rated it 10/10 just like me.
 
This sublingual Ayahuasca bi-weekly is so euphoric and very strong, zero nausea or dizziness, absolutely love her. All the visions, music enhancement, deep spiritual insights and teachings of oral Ayahuasca without the side effects:
 


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Posted 17 February 2023 - 07:45 AM

Sublingual Ayahuasca, my psychedelic of choice: https://www.shroomer...Number/28189371
 
hxxps://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28189371 (change hxxp to http to link)
 
I've actually decided to save my bridgesii only for when I go outdoors to the waterpark with my family or in nature at the river. I always get a mild hangover from cactus that makes me extra tired, and I end up sleeping too much of the next day away, and my beautiful, funny and smart wife gets aggravated with me :smile: cause I can't stay up to watch movies.
 
I actually went back to taking 200mg tetrahydroharmine + 200mg harmine orally at one time in a capsule, then 1 hour later when I feel it working, I place the HPBCD DMT under my tongue and wait for it dissolve which happens 100% in 15 minutes. It is no different from high dose cactus in effects for 1.5 hour with an incredible afterglow.
 
Sublingual Ayahuasca directions:
1) Take 200mg harmine freebase and 200mg pure THH freebase orally in a capsule
How to make pure THH or tetrahydroharmine here, post #13: https://mycotopia.ne...e-under-tongue/
2) 1 hour later: Place 120mg DMT on a spoon
cover with x 7 or 840mg Hydroxy propyl beta cyclodextrin or HPBCD also use the 2-Hpbcd, same in effect. This keeps it at a 1:1 molar ratio, as HPBCD (1300 g/mol, is x7 bigger in mol/g weight by dmt (188 g/mol).
3) add 10 drops of hot water from a microwaved coffee mug
4) mix and scrape it all back and forth for 1 to 2 minutes on the spoon using the end of another spoon, the complex is formed with absorption into the sublingual mucosa x 4 normal or 400% increase studies show.
5) Place bottom side of tongue onto spoon, the HPBCD DMT complex will all adhere, as HPBCD forms sticky complexes like sugar. Now hold under your tongue for 15 minutes, if at any time you feel too much saliva form, simply tilt head forward and spit out the extra saliva into a cup, but always keep tongue pressed down.
 
How this works: the oral harmine you took works in the brain to prevent the "zapping of dmt" by mitochondria located within the cells of the brain according to Dr. Mckenna, mao is reduced in the brain for several hours as harmine has a half life of around 1 to 3 hours. So once the dmt is absorbed sublingually, the harmine working in the brain prevents it from breaking down, and the THH doubles it's half life. The THH is critical as it is a major alkaloid of Caapi, a feminine teaching spirit who causes visions all on her own, she is the guide and teacher for the experience. She also blocks serotonin which causes mild stimulation, dmt does not block serotonin.
 
There is a mild sting but it is so worth the wait. The HPBCD being such a large molecular weight is not absorbed by the mucosa but does facilitate the transfer of the DMT into the bloodstream as the potent freebase by opening up of "tight junctions" as research into HPBCD shows. The HPBCD ends up in the saliva you spit out after 15 minutes. The mucosa under tongue is also only 100 to 200 micrograms thick, it is rich for this activity and many times more potent than normal oral absorption according to Dr. Narang.
 
When you mix it on the spoon, use your muscles to scrape, mix and knead it all together. This is how scientist prepare these complexes, by kneading.
 
1.5 hour incredible experience +5 shulgin in intensity and euphoria and beauty....beautiful geometrics overlaid all surfaces, music beyond heavenly, just incredible music enhancement...actresses on tv look like goddesses.
 
The colors omg are just neon like and out of this world, so beautiful, the shimmering of everything is beyond belief. The beauty with open eyes is divine and infinite. The interconnection of all things is seen, and very deep spiritual insights and healing. I walked out in nature and lost myself in the beauty.
 
None of the negatives of oral Ayahuasca, as oral DMT makes my very nauseated and uncomfortable, this is all positives...very euphoric and straight to bloodstream as the potent freebase.
 
Way better than LSD.....and just as good as high dose cactus tea. I had an experience tonight that blew my mind, this is my method to use every weekend for the rest of my life, Sublingual Ayahuasca is a great way to stay psychedelic for the rest of your life. I re-dosed more HPBCD DMT at the 1.5 hour point, and the fun continued for another 1.5 hour, as the oral harmine has a half life of from 1 to 3 hours, and the THH doubles the half-life of DMT as shown by Dr. Mckenna, I can attest it does. You can keep re-does a 3rd time, as I did many hours later, and was still blown away. I have used it over 50 times in 2 years last year, and loved every minute of it.
 
I've taken oral Ayahuasca over 90 times in a decade, trust me when I say this is so much better, no nausea, no dizziness, as dmt is not travelling thru stomach.
 
More on sublingual Ayahuasca, my psychedelic of choice, I wrote this 2 years ago:
 
1mg LSA + new aldehyde molecule discovery results in effects similar to 100ug LSD: https://www.shroomer...27850299/page/1





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