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Cubensis mycelium not growing into the casing


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#1 orangutan

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Posted 06 July 2022 - 11:40 AM

I'm doing a mono tub with 50/50 hpoo and coir, spawned with bird seed.  I covered the substrate with wax paper during colonization to prevent too much water loss.

 

4 days ago I took off the wax paper and cased with 1/4 inch layer of coir and I'm not noticing any mycelium growing into the casing.  I scratched casing off of some areas and there is not even the beginning of mycelial growth into the casing.  It's like the substrate just stalled and has been doing nothing.

 

I was thinking of removing the casing and scratching the substrate surface with a fork.  What do y'all think?


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Posted 07 July 2022 - 02:40 AM

I think you’d been better off using just the coir as the bulk substrate. Manure can be tricky if not thoroughly pasteurized. Coulda been slightly bacterial spawn too mixed in with bacterial manure. Then you add covering with paper and a bacterial bloom can happen quickly. I can’t be sure but it might also be hot this time of year where you are and it’s a recipe for disaster.

If your substrate is at field capacity, don’t worry about some evaporation… it’s suppose to happen. Evaporation off the fruiting surface is a pinning trigger. One thing I learned very early on is that it’s riskier to restrict FAE to almost 0 during any part of grow. People use to cover their tubs in blankets and garbage bags.. horrible idea. Bacteria thrives in anaerobic environments.. especially hot ones. It’s much easier to add a little water down the road if your sub dries out too much or even let the flush ride and get a not-so-great first flush and rehydrate to get that bangin second flush.. at least then you have a healthy sub that’s ready to throw off more fruits right away with fresh water from a couple heavy mistings

I say let it ride and give plenty of FAE. Scratching the surface can just push surface contamination that landed on the top deep into the interior of the sub where the high nute grain is which wouldn’t be a problem with a healthy sub but yours sounds like it’s stalled and already unhealthy

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Edited by fahtster, 07 July 2022 - 02:50 AM.

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 08:46 AM

Thank you Fahtster, you might be right on a lot of those points.  I'll let it ride and see what happens.  The sub colonized very fast and it's very dense and white.  It seems healthy, but it is definitely stalled and probably did not like the almost anaerobic conditions followed by a coir casing.


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Posted 07 July 2022 - 09:09 AM

Yeah and I could be wrong too.. could be healthy (hopefully) and just acting weird. Not much to do but see what happens. I wish you a bountiful harvest either way. What brand of coir you using?

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 01:11 PM

Im feeling the wax paper has stalled it into a faux overlay if you will. Ive had similar happen in my " experiments " . Panicked me into all sorts of "do something" . Ultimately it just needed a couple weeks to recover from being so choked for air.

I don't think scraping would hurt, but I would give a week to breath first.
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Posted 07 July 2022 - 01:24 PM

Yeah and I could be wrong too.. could be healthy (hopefully) and just acting weird. Not much to do but see what happens. I wish you a bountiful harvest either way. What brand of coir you using?


I’m using EcoEarth brand coir. Comes in bricks from Amazon. It’s great and I’ve been using it for years and never had a problem. It’s sold as reptile and amphibian bedding so I imagine it doesn’t have many impurities


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Posted 07 July 2022 - 10:20 PM

Take a fork and scrap and mist.  You want a little damage to sub but also the mix the casing with the scrapings.  Give it time and make it knot the way you want it too.  


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