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#1 riseabovethought


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Posted 09 August 2022 - 12:35 PM

So now its official.  Taking shit into our own hands, is the only way forward.  This kid was only 22 and to have the balls and the skills to hit that demon with 8 out of 10 shots, before he got to his other weapons stashed in the bathroom and before he killed anyone else...humbles me greatly.  It sounds like a movie, a great one!  Anyway, I know you all heard of this.  I cant stop thinking about it and wish I could learn about more of these.

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Posted 09 August 2022 - 12:52 PM

Heres another one in CO but it ended badly. 

A ‘hero’ bystander took down a Colorado gunman who killed a cop. Then an officer killed him by mistake, police say.

After a gunman ambushed and killed a police officer last week in a midday attack in a Denver suburb, most witnesses scattered, ducking behind cars as they ran for safety. But 40-year-old John Hurley moved toward the shooter, pulling out his concealed handgun and firing at the attacker.

After the gunman fell, Hurley picked up the rifle the shooter had been carrying. Moments later, police pulled up to the scene and one of the responding officers shot and killed Hurley with the rifle still in hand.

“The threat to our officers and our community was stopped by a hero named Johnny Hurley,” Arvada Police Chief Link Strate said in a Friday statement, releasing more details of the June 21 shooting that left three people dead. “Johnny’s actions can only be described as decisive, courageous and effective in stopping further loss of life.”

The incident, which shook the Colorado city of more than 120,000 people, began just before 1 p.m. The brother of 59-year-old Ronald Troyke called police to request a welfare check, fearing that Troyke planned to “do something crazy,” officials said on Friday. Police tried to contact Troyke at his home but did not find him.

Police later found Troyke’s writings, which allegedly stated that his goal was to “to kill Arvada PD officers” and that “I just hope I don’t die without killing any of you pigs.”

Just after 1:30 p.m., Officer Gordon Beesley responded to a suspicious-person call in a busy downtown district filled with shops and restaurants, near the city’s Olde Town Square. Security video released by the Arvada Police Department on Friday showed Beesley walking west near the square when a black pickup truck pulled into a nearby parking spot. The suspect then stepped out of the truck with a semiautomatic shotgun in hand and ran after Beesley. When Beesley turned to look back, the gunman fired on the officer, and then ran back to the truck to exchange the shotgun for a rifle, the video showed.

Police said Troyke ran back toward the square with an AR-15. Hurley confronted him, firing a fatal shot using his handgun.


Another officer, who has not been named by police, arrived a short time later and saw Hurley holding the AR-15. That officer shot and killed Hurley, police said Friday.

Firearms advocates have long argued that gun violence can be stopped by good guys with weapons. Police say that was the case in Arvada, but Hurley’s death also highlights the challenge law enforcement officers face in determining who’s a threat during a chaotic call.

Pete Blair, executive director of a Texas State University group that trains law enforcement officers to respond to active shooters, told the Denver Post that determination can be difficult.

“You’re asking people to make split-second decisions about who’s a good guy and who’s a bad guy, and obviously mistakes happen,” Blair said.

Police said a multiagency Critical Incident Response Team is investigating the shooting that killed Hurley.

Beesley, a 19-year veteran officer, also died from his injuries.

On Saturday, friends, family and community members gathered in downtown Arvada to honor Hurley at a candlelight vigil, where people covered the sidewalk in chalk messages of support and grief.

“I don’t really think he knew what kind of mark he was leaving on the world,” Jennifer Masterson, a friend of the Hurley family, told KMGH-TV. “I wish he could see all the people that are impacted by him. A lot of people talk about what they would do in that situation, but it’s rare that someone actually has the fortitude to actually do something about it.”

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Posted 09 August 2022 - 12:57 PM

Heres a guy who shot a guy who just killed his wife at the Dentist office.  

I guess that sorta counts. Tennessee sounds rough man, when you even gotta be strapped at the Dentist office.

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(COLONIAL HEIGHTS, Tenn.) -- A man who allegedly shot and killed his wife at a dentist’s office was stopped when he was shot by a bystander.

The suspect, who has not been identified, reportedly entered Dr. David Guy Dentistry in Colonial Heights, Tennessee, on Wednesday morning.

Sullivan County Sheriff Jeff Cassidy described the shooting as a workplace violence and domestic violence situation.

Cassidy did not know what prompted the violence, but did confirm that the suspect and victim were husband and wife. The name of the victim has not been released.

A man with a concealed gun who was at the dentist’s office then shot the suspect, according to authorities, and controlled him until police arrived on the scene.

The suspect is now hospitalized with gunshot wounds, Cassidy said.

The name of the bystander, who Cassidy called a "hero," has not been released.

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Posted 09 August 2022 - 01:02 PM

From 2000 to 2021, ALERRT researchers studied 464 attacks (434 shootings, 23 knife attacks and seven vehicle attacks) and found civilians — including security guards and off-duty police officers — stopped attackers before police arrived on 73 occasions. In the vast majority of those cases (67%), bystanders subdued the assailant using physical force.

An armed bystander stopped attacks using a gun in 24 of the 464 attacks recorded, about 5% of all events. Of those 24, only half were civilians – the rest were security guards and off-duty police officers.


I think this means ~12 civilians have some great stories to tell!  -But arent telling for whatever reason.  All I can find are the 2 instances above.  The rest of them seem to be obscured for some reason.

Edited by riseabovethought, 09 August 2022 - 01:05 PM.

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Posted 10 August 2022 - 11:40 AM

It’s been official since they signed the bill of rights. What a shame that this is what it takes for people to open their eyes .

Cops can’t be everywhere and they shouldn’t be . You need to be abLe to take care of you . It’s good that guy was able to do that but I still feel sorry for him, he’s going to have to live with that. Often times doing the right thing is a very hard thing to do .

Edited by Mycol, 10 August 2022 - 11:41 AM.

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Posted 10 August 2022 - 01:47 PM

Heres another brave bystander

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Posted 11 August 2022 - 01:23 PM

All the guntubers are posting 40 yard drills now ... it's a hella shot with a 9mm, especially 8 out of 10 with a moving target.


That said, I feel bad for the fucking guy.  He's a hero but also something much more and less, and the rest of his life will be defined by that moment.


I'm a huge fan of MY 2nd amendment rights, I just wish everyone else didn't have the same rights; it'd be nice to live in a society where you didn't have to strap a Glock 19 to eat a Cinnabun, but ... that's where we are, I guess.


Heroic?  Absolutely.  Sad statement on our society?  Absolutely. I've got my CC permit but rarely / never carry, as it's fucking weird to walk around strapped.


Guns are a lot like cocaine.  Fucking awesome, but after a few times you wonder if it wouldn't have been better if you hadn't started at all.







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