
1mg LSA + new aldehyde molecule discovery results in effects similar to 100ug LSD
#1
Posted 06 February 2023 - 10:05 AM
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Posted 06 February 2023 - 10:33 AM
Attached: 2022 paper on Adduct formation of d-Lysergic Acid Amide or (LSA) and aldehydes.pdf (1,187,857 bytes)
Adduct formation of d-Lysergic Acid Amide or (LSA) and aldehydes.pdf 1.13MB
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Posted 07 February 2023 - 08:28 AM
The important thing to note from the table below, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16.Curiously, entry 6 is a monoalkylamide that has the same molecular weight as LSD itself, that is, it has a total of four carbon atoms attached to the amide. Entry 16 has a five-carbon group attached to the amide.We have no evidence as to whether either of these compounds would be active in man, but these rat data suggest that they might be.
This paper states that "LSH" was identified in blood and/or urine samples in two individuals who ingested the seeds. This is interesting because Peter Webster alleges that LSH will immediately decompose when in the body. This paper indicates that that's not true.Klinke HB, Müller IB, Steffenrud S and Dahl-Sørensen R, Two cases of lysergamide intoxication by ingestion of seeds, which resulted in one fatality due to falling from a building and one surviving witness. Forensic Sci Int, 2010, 197(1-3), e1-5
Edited by tregar, 07 February 2023 - 08:30 AM.
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Posted 07 February 2023 - 09:53 AM
I wonder if an explorer combined a couple or the whole array of variants of these morning glory derivatives if the effect would be different, or better, or what? Would the sum be greater than the parts?
Edited by pharmer, 07 February 2023 - 12:23 PM.
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Posted 09 February 2023 - 03:06 PM
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Posted 10 February 2023 - 08:37 AM
tregar, you have probably rediscovered something that has long been a curiosity, for example on the now defunct blacklight site there was TLC posted of morning glory seed extract treated with methanol, acetaldehyde-methanol or with acetaldehyde-methanol-water, the extract treated with acetaldehyde-methanol showed a clear difference in the alkaloid profile, with a shift to several new non polar spots which couldn't be identified. Very likely the LSA converted to LSH (LSA + acetaldehyde adduct = LSH). IIRC Erhlichs was used to develop the plates so these were indole compounds.
The important thing to note from the table below, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16.Curiously, entry 6 is a monoalkylamide that has the same molecular weight as LSD itself, that is, it has a total of four carbon atoms attached to the amide. Entry 16 has a five-carbon group attached to the amide.We have no evidence as to whether either of these compounds would be active in man, but these rat data suggest that they might be.
Edited by tregar, 10 February 2023 - 10:54 AM.
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Posted 17 February 2023 - 07:34 AM
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Posted 20 February 2023 - 09:40 AM
Just tried this tek today with 450 seeds on an empty stomach and I didn't feel too much of an effect. Just slight euphoria and a good mood boost. Not really any nausea so that's good. I think I didn't grind the seeds fine enough and didn't decant enough of the orange liquid off. Will try again next week most likely. I am also going to try to put the orange liquid into a smoothie using my blender because it tasted so bad. Very artificial sweet flavor with the boozy aftertaste Maybe it was because of all the tartaric acid. i wasn't able to get any of the inert wine gas so I used a vacuum wine stopper and put the bottle of sherry into the coldest part of my fridge. Do you think that is enough to keep it from going bad for a week or 2? Very excited to try again!
Just took a 40 seed portion of LSA extract that was mixed for 15 minutes with peppermint oil yesterday and tripped his face off with a friend. Was very clean feeling and relaxed. Rainbows and vibrant fractal energy danced all over the skies and throughout his surroundings and music sounded great. The head-space was very acid like but different. Was a bit intense but he was able to keep it together lol. Whole trip was about 8 hrs long.I have tried a 20 seed extract without peppermint oil and it seemed uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals, while every time he has added peppermint oil he has gotten visuals.
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Posted 09 March 2023 - 01:58 PM
Has the Mystery of the Eleusinian Mysteries been solved .pdf 164.7KB
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The important thing to note from the table below, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16.Curiously, entry 6 is a monoalkylamide that has the same molecular weight as LSD itself, that is, it has a total of four carbon atoms attached to the amide. Entry 16 has a five-carbon group attached to the amide.We have no evidence as to whether either of these compounds would be active in man, but these rat data suggest that they might be.
Just took a 40 seed portion of LSA extract that was mixed for 15 minutes with peppermint oil yesterday and tripped his face off with a friend. Was very clean feeling and relaxed. Rainbows and vibrant fractal energy danced all over the skies and throughout his surroundings and music sounded great. The head-space was very acid like but different. Was a bit intense but he was able to keep it together lol. Whole trip was about 8 hrs long.I have tried a 20 seed extract without peppermint oil and it seemed uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals, while every time he has added peppermint oil he has gotten visuals.
Edited by tregar, 09 March 2023 - 07:12 PM.
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